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What is the British Columbia Scientific Cryptozoology Club?

Posted by: John Kirk on May 18th, 2006

A lot of people who read Cryptomundo often ask me about the BCSCC and what is exactly that we do. I am always happy to let people know about the club I founded in 1989 along with Paul Leblond and the late Jim Clark. Paul and Jim had the original vision of a club where people could meet and discuss cryptozoology. I read an ad in the paper asking for anyone with an interest in cryptozoology to meet with Jim and Paul about forming a club. Having sighted Ogopogo two years earlier, and becoming an enthusiastic field investigator, I was keen to meet up with Paul and Jim.

We met at Jim’s cryptozoology book-crammed apartment and hit it off from the outset. Between us we came up with a club for field investigators and armchair researchers. We had our first meeting in May 1989 and our first club expedition at the end of July, and what an expedition that turned out to be. We had decided to investigate Ogopogo of Okanagan Lake, Canada’s best known aquatic cryptid. I had seen this creature twice in one evening in 1987, but had not sighted it again despite return visits to the lake so we really did not expect to see anything when set up our observation post at Peach Orchard Beach in Summerland.

We had a 40X telescope, binoculars, video and still cameras on hand that day, but did not expect to have to use them, so infrequent are Ogopogo sightings. It was a brilliant day with all the conditions being ideal for a day at the beach. At about 3:15 in the afternoon, I was looking southward toward a small point that juts out into the lake when I could see something pushing large amounts of water in front of it about 150 – 200 metres away. I realized that it was an animal and so I grabbed the Bushnell telescope and zeroed in on the object and I was stunned to see that it was an animal with five humps out of the water to a height of about 3 feet. It had skin like a killer whale and I could see tubercles under the skin.

When other people on the beach saw what I was looking at, they all rushed over in my direction to get a better look for themselves. There were about 50 people in all and most were flabbergasted to realize that Ogopogo was a real animal and not just the stuff of legend. I should have been able to get good footage of this creature, but due to excitement and inexperience I left the lens cap on and did not capture the creature for posterity.

Having been successful on that occasion in getting a sighting of a cryptid, the BCSCC staged another expedition in August that year with similar good results. Since then we have diversified into searching for sasquatch and our membership has found no less than a dozen unknown bipedal hominid tracks and had several more sightings of Ogopogo. We also investigate mysterious giant black salamanders said to inhabit lakes and rivers in our province, as well as the oddly-named “Beaver Eater” (not the best name is it!!) inhabiting the Yukon. We have travelled all over North America and trotted the globe in search of cryptids. We encourage our members to do field work in their own locales. We are the type of cryptozoological organization that gets excited about the discovery of a new rodent or fish just as much as we would with the discovery of some of the better-known cryptids.

As I write this, the BCSCC is just about to publish its 60^th issue of the club flagship publication, the BCSCC Quarterly. No other cryptozoological group that we can recall has ever maintained such a consistent record of publishing. The Quarterly contains local and international cryptozoological news and is widely read. Even the Vancouver Public Library has a subscription to our publication.

This year we have undertaken a quite considerable amount of work in the sasquatch field. You may recall that I posted here at Cryptomundo that the first possible sasquatch vocalizations in British Columbia were thought to have been obtained. We did a huge amount of follow-up on this with our buddies at Westcoast Sasquatch and thanks to the efforts of Thomas Steenburg and Gerry Matthews, we have now ascertained that the vocalizations where actually made by coyotes, but these cries were so far removed from the usual howls and yelps that no one would have known coyotes could have made such sounds. Thomas and Gerry actually watched the coyotes make this noise and were stunned by the sheer volume of noise that their lungs and larynx could produce.

It’s tough when a group like ours makes what we believed to be a breakthrough like what occurred with the purported sasquatch vocalizations, but when you discover there is a more mundane explanation to cryptozoological occurrences then you just have to suck it in and carry on in a different direction. That’s the BCSCC spirit.

We have locally based membership get-togethers in addition to fieldwork, and in true British Columbia tradition this is usually over a pint. Very frequently, we will travel and meet up with other members at sasquatch conferences all over Canada and the States. We’re a friendly bunch and welcome new members to join our club.

The BCSCC is taking this opportunity to invite you to join people like Jason Walton, Ed Bousfield, Andreas Trottmann, Loren Coleman, Scott Norman, Craig Woolheater, Jon Downes, Eric Joye, Thomas Steenburg, Gerry Matthews, Ken Kristian and Seb Wang as members of our club. You can go to our website here and learn more about the club and to find out how to join us.

I’m looking forward to hearing from prospective new members wanting to join our club, so do get in touch.

This entry was posted on Thursday, May 18th, 2006 at 12:31 am and is filed under Bigfoot, Cryptid Universe, Cryptozoologists, Cryptozoology, Eyewitness Accounts, Lake Monsters, Public Forum, Sasquatch, Sea Serpents. You can follow responses via our RSS 2.0 feed. You can skip to the end and leave a response. Pinging is not allowed.

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15 Responses to “What is the British Columbia Scientific Cryptozoology Club?”

Vigus responds: May 18th, 2006 at 12:49 am
I did apply for membership awhile back, but never heard anything and my check wasn’t cashed. Perhaps it wasn’t received? I’ll have to try again.
John Kirk responds: May 18th, 2006 at 1:15 am
I have relayed your comments to the BCSCC Membership Committee. Hopefully they will check into it for you.
Vigus responds: May 18th, 2006 at 1:19 am
Thanks John, I just recieved the email. (before your response )
Tabitca responds: May 18th, 2006 at 9:04 am
I can’t help noticing there seems to be a shortage of females in your list. Do you have many female members?Unfortunately it’s too far to come from England for a pint. Next time I come to Canada though I shall see if it’s possible to make a detour to B.C. from Edmonton.
fuzzy responds: May 18th, 2006 at 9:38 am
Let’s give credit here…

“It’s tough..when you discover there is a more mundane explanation to cryptozoological occurrences, then you just have to suck it in and carry on…”

Isn’t that what Research is all about, gathering evidence, evaluating, categorizing etc, then using that knowledge in future investigations?

Don’t be disappointed ~ be PROUD that you have captured and analyzed and identified yet another peripheral facet of the mystery, and communicated the results to others in need of that information!

Bigfoot expedition, remote campsite, tiny backpacking tent, dark, raining, cold… footsteps outside, slowly circling the tent… gotta be BF! Slooowly unzip one end, peek out.

Dog. From some distant campground, no doubt. Of course, that doesn’t mean that every footstep in the night is a dog, it just reveals yet another item we have to include in our Ziplock Bag o’ Facts.

“That’s the BCSCC spirit.”

Indeed!
John Kirk responds: May 18th, 2006 at 11:53 am
Tabitca,
We have lots of female members, but most are not field researchers and that is the only reason they were not included in the list. Actually one of our benefactor members is a field researcher. My apologies to Joyce Kearney for leaving her out of the list and also to any other ladies I may have missed.
We also have quite a few members in the U.K. too so we welcome anyone from anywhere in the world to apply to join.

Also to Fuzzy. Thanks for the encouragement. You understand exactly what it is like to be a field researcher and the disappointments one constantly faces. Our motto ought to be upoward and onward.
Tabitca responds: May 18th, 2006 at 3:36 pm
Thanks for the info John. I’ve just got in from work ..it’s after 9pm here.I’ll certainly look into joining. The only sort of clubs we have here seem to centre around Loch Ness, and although I spend a lot of time up there,I am interested in other cryptozoological creatures. I’ve been chasing Nessie for over 30 years and seen something twice but I am a very private person and so even when I get academic work published use another name.
fuzzy responds: May 18th, 2006 at 3:46 pm
You’re welcome.

I look at expeditions as Experiments, not Projects. By definition, an Experiment is a test or trial, set up to determine what will happen under a given set of criteria or circumstance ~ thus, an Experiment cannot “fail” (or “succeed”, for that matter) ~ it can only produce Results.

A Project, however, can fail or succeed, depending on one’s goal and point of view.

Researchers and scientists Experiment.

Adventurers create Projects.

“The most beautiful experience we can have is the mysterious.” ~ Albert Einstein
Tabitca responds: May 18th, 2006 at 4:07 pm
hear hear fuzzy .As ,I suppose you would call me a professional researcher(social scientist), I have to account for every failure as well as success. Sometimes not finding out something can be as beneficial as a positive result. I admire anyone who goes out and comes back and says ..It didn’t work or I was wrong.It takes a big person to say I was wrong.I just wish some of my colleagues would get that… sigh
twblack responds: May 18th, 2006 at 4:11 pm
Great to see more and more people on the trail of not only crypto but other related things like a new rodent or fish it is all about learning the mysterys of nature. In your opinons what do YOU believe ogopogo to be??? Also in your sighting you said 6 humps about 3ft out of the water what kind of length would you say it was??
John Kirk responds: May 18th, 2006 at 5:25 pm
twblack,

All of us who saw this phenomenon on that occasion estimated the visible length of the animal to be between 35 - 40 feet long. This is not the longest I have seen. I saw one - if it was one contiguous animal - which was abour 70 feet long sighted on August 26, 1989.
Tabitca responds: May 18th, 2006 at 5:37 pm
John do you think all lake creatures are a related species or different?
I’ve seen Nessie as a Hump rather than a coil but that doesn’t really mean anything as there may be a lot under water you don’t see. the water is so dark at Loch ness , being full of peat, and I do know I wouldn’t swim it now!
Terry W. Colvin responds: July 30th, 2007 at 11:27 pm
Perhaps almost ten years ago I remember a BC cryptozoology organization run by Ben. His last name escapes me. Does anyone know if he still publishes?
John Kirk responds: July 30th, 2007 at 11:35 pm
Terry,

I think you are referring to Ben Roesch. He is from Ontario and he used to put out the Cryptozoology Review. It ceased publication a couple of years ago.

However, the BCSCC still publishes and we have our flagship publication known as the BCSCC Quarterly which is well-received. Even the Vancouver Public Library subscribes to it.

John Kirk
Terry W. Colvin responds: July 31st, 2007 at 12:21 am
John,

Thank you for the update. I knew he was Canadian. When CRS (can’t remember stuff…) kicks in the memory does strange things. He was a young fellow then, in high school, and still young relatively to myself.

BTW, my wife Ruk-Long and I are on a lengthy advance party trip to Thailand in preparation for our move to Thailand next year. I hope to contribute a tidbit here and there on cryptids from SE Asia. We will live in Pran Buri (near Hua Hin) which is 20 km north of the largest remaining freshwater marsh in Thailand at Khao Sam Roi Yot National Park.

Best wishes

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