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	<title>Comments on: Who Coined &#8220;Skunk Ape&#8221;?</title>
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		<title>By: discountfred</title>
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		<dc:creator>discountfred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Dec 2006 13:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must tell you, David Shealy may be correct in this. He is, in fact, the descendant of early Everglades pioneer C.G. McKinney who coined the phrase &quot;Swamp Angels&quot; for mosquitoes.

I have little doubt that &quot;Skunk Ape&quot; was coined by someone within the community of southwest FL. Either Ochopee or Chokoloskee, Everglades City, or thereabouts. Could very well have been Shealy&#039;s family.

There was, in fact, an annual &quot;Skunk Ape&quot; festival around the time amateur archaeologist &quot;Buzz&quot; Osbon had his much publicized &quot;Skunk Ape&quot; encounter in the early 70&#039;s.

To my knowledge, the festival was held at what is now the Oasis ranger station in the Big Cypress, and was a fund raiser for the local volunteer Fire Dept., which David Shealy&#039;s family and many other local families were involved in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must tell you, David Shealy may be correct in this. He is, in fact, the descendant of early Everglades pioneer C.G. McKinney who coined the phrase &#8220;Swamp Angels&#8221; for mosquitoes.</p>
<p>I have little doubt that &#8220;Skunk Ape&#8221; was coined by someone within the community of southwest FL. Either Ochopee or Chokoloskee, Everglades City, or thereabouts. Could very well have been Shealy&#8217;s family.</p>
<p>There was, in fact, an annual &#8220;Skunk Ape&#8221; festival around the time amateur archaeologist &#8220;Buzz&#8221; Osbon had his much publicized &#8220;Skunk Ape&#8221; encounter in the early 70&#8217;s.</p>
<p>To my knowledge, the festival was held at what is now the Oasis ranger station in the Big Cypress, and was a fund raiser for the local volunteer Fire Dept., which David Shealy&#8217;s family and many other local families were involved in.</p>
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		<title>By: Mnynames</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mnynames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loren, is the lack of native accounts in the case of the skunk apes part of your reasoning behind speculating that they are post-Columbian arrivals?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loren, is the lack of native accounts in the case of the skunk apes part of your reasoning behind speculating that they are post-Columbian arrivals?</p>
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		<title>By: airforce47</title>
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		<dc:creator>airforce47</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 03:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I remember hearing the term &quot;skunk ape&quot; while attending altitude chamber training at Macdill AFB in early 1969.

The best source of military assistance regarding this term might come the public affairs office at Eglin AFB.  Eglin is home to a rather large number of specialized units.  The PA folks might be able to provide contact sources for old hands in the Combat Air Controller Field or some of the folks in the Army Ranger battalion.

Interesting post and unusual about there being no legends from the Seminoles about Bigfoot.  Most of the other Native Americans have some sort of legend.  Later,

LL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I remember hearing the term &#8220;skunk ape&#8221; while attending altitude chamber training at Macdill AFB in early 1969.</p>
<p>The best source of military assistance regarding this term might come the public affairs office at Eglin AFB.  Eglin is home to a rather large number of specialized units.  The PA folks might be able to provide contact sources for old hands in the Combat Air Controller Field or some of the folks in the Army Ranger battalion.</p>
<p>Interesting post and unusual about there being no legends from the Seminoles about Bigfoot.  Most of the other Native Americans have some sort of legend.  Later,</p>
<p>LL</p>
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		<title>By: Loren Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loren Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 22:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, everyone mentioning 1977, 1976, or 1971, as noted in the blog above, articles firmly dated back to early August 1971 used &quot;Skunk Ape.&quot;

Still looking for concrete confirmations, not just remembrances, before the date of August 10, 1971, for the use of &quot;Skunk Ape.&quot;

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, everyone mentioning 1977, 1976, or 1971, as noted in the blog above, articles firmly dated back to early August 1971 used &#8220;Skunk Ape.&#8221;</p>
<p>Still looking for concrete confirmations, not just remembrances, before the date of August 10, 1971, for the use of &#8220;Skunk Ape.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: heinselman</title>
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		<dc:creator>heinselman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 20:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The term dates back to at least 1971. See the typed in AP article below, this is from 8-25-1971 from the Press Telegram in California.

Skunk Ape mystery; does it roam swamp?

Dania, Fla (AP) – A former Seminole Indian chief and a noted Everglades photographer say they’ve never heard of the “Skunk Ape” a huge creature a Miami engineer claims to have spotted in Big Cypress Swamp.

“I’ve never heard of anything like it in any of our legends,” said Betty Mae Jumper of Dania who until June was chairman of Florida’s Seminole Indian tribes.

“I’ve lived out there in the Big Cypress off and on for a long time, and I never heard any Indian talking about any apeman,” she said. “The Indians on the Big Cypress Reservation know that area pretty well, too.”

Earl Diemer, chief photographer for the Central and South Florida Flood Control District in West Palm Beach, said he had never encountered any “Skunk Ape” stories in nearly 40 years of working in the Everglades and Big Cypress Swamp.

“I’ve been fooling around the Florida wilderness since the 1930’s, the early 30s, and I’ve never heard of the thing,” Diemer said. “I won’t say there’s no such thing, but I’d have to run into it before I’d believe it.”

H.C. Osbon, an amateur archaeologist and electronic engineer, said Sunday that he and four companions saw a “Skunk Ape” in the Big Cypress last February.

Osbon said the group encountered the creature while hunting for Indian artifacts, and he estimated its size as 7 feet tall and about 700 pounds. Osbon said also that he made plaster casts of the footprints of several of the animals.

The amateur archaeologist said the creature got the name “Skunk Ape” because of a bad odor it seemed to give off.

Diemer said “The Florida black bear might be mistaken for an ape under the right combination of circumstances. Of course when it stands on its hind legs it’s only about five feet tall, but they can look 20 feet tall if the circumstances are scary enough.”

Osbon said he planned an expedition to capture an apeman next month and offered to “make a believer” of scientists who wanted to come along.

“If they’re looking for a photographer, tell them I’m game,” Diemer said. “I’d love to photograph something like that.”

Craig Heinselman
Peterborough, NH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The term dates back to at least 1971. See the typed in AP article below, this is from 8-25-1971 from the Press Telegram in California.</p>
<p>Skunk Ape mystery; does it roam swamp?</p>
<p>Dania, Fla (AP) – A former Seminole Indian chief and a noted Everglades photographer say they’ve never heard of the “Skunk Ape” a huge creature a Miami engineer claims to have spotted in Big Cypress Swamp.</p>
<p>“I’ve never heard of anything like it in any of our legends,” said Betty Mae Jumper of Dania who until June was chairman of Florida’s Seminole Indian tribes.</p>
<p>“I’ve lived out there in the Big Cypress off and on for a long time, and I never heard any Indian talking about any apeman,” she said. “The Indians on the Big Cypress Reservation know that area pretty well, too.”</p>
<p>Earl Diemer, chief photographer for the Central and South Florida Flood Control District in West Palm Beach, said he had never encountered any “Skunk Ape” stories in nearly 40 years of working in the Everglades and Big Cypress Swamp.</p>
<p>“I’ve been fooling around the Florida wilderness since the 1930’s, the early 30s, and I’ve never heard of the thing,” Diemer said. “I won’t say there’s no such thing, but I’d have to run into it before I’d believe it.”</p>
<p>H.C. Osbon, an amateur archaeologist and electronic engineer, said Sunday that he and four companions saw a “Skunk Ape” in the Big Cypress last February.</p>
<p>Osbon said the group encountered the creature while hunting for Indian artifacts, and he estimated its size as 7 feet tall and about 700 pounds. Osbon said also that he made plaster casts of the footprints of several of the animals.</p>
<p>The amateur archaeologist said the creature got the name “Skunk Ape” because of a bad odor it seemed to give off.</p>
<p>Diemer said “The Florida black bear might be mistaken for an ape under the right combination of circumstances. Of course when it stands on its hind legs it’s only about five feet tall, but they can look 20 feet tall if the circumstances are scary enough.”</p>
<p>Osbon said he planned an expedition to capture an apeman next month and offered to “make a believer” of scientists who wanted to come along.</p>
<p>“If they’re looking for a photographer, tell them I’m game,” Diemer said. “I’d love to photograph something like that.”</p>
<p>Craig Heinselman<br />
Peterborough, NH</p>
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		<title>By: Georgia_Bigfoot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Georgia_Bigfoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 19:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Shealy would take credit for the sky being blue if he thought he could get away with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Shealy would take credit for the sky being blue if he thought he could get away with it.</p>
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		<title>By: wehican</title>
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		<dc:creator>wehican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 19:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a teenager in Miami I remember hearing of the skunk ape on the radio station WQAM by Rick Shaw, a popular rock DJ at the time.  Would have been somewhere around 1965 or 1966, 1967 at the very latest.  Heard it on my 6 transistor while doing the family dishes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a teenager in Miami I remember hearing of the skunk ape on the radio station WQAM by Rick Shaw, a popular rock DJ at the time.  Would have been somewhere around 1965 or 1966, 1967 at the very latest.  Heard it on my 6 transistor while doing the family dishes.</p>
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		<title>By: longrifle48</title>
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		<dc:creator>longrifle48</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 19:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hold the presses, 18 june 1976 (Punta Gorda Daily Herald News) mentions skunkape sighting in Grove City, Florida. The Davie, Florida accounts were from 1969. Who knows, often newspaper stories are in the reporter&#039;s own words, as opposed to what was actually said. Caution for all skunkape seekers! Anyone sighting size 14E, 9 toed tracks, refrain from gunfire, as it is probably just me!

Have a great Florida day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hold the presses, 18 june 1976 (Punta Gorda Daily Herald News) mentions skunkape sighting in Grove City, Florida. The Davie, Florida accounts were from 1969. Who knows, often newspaper stories are in the reporter&#8217;s own words, as opposed to what was actually said. Caution for all skunkape seekers! Anyone sighting size 14E, 9 toed tracks, refrain from gunfire, as it is probably just me!</p>
<p>Have a great Florida day!</p>
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		<title>By: longrifle48</title>
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		<dc:creator>longrifle48</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to my Bigfoot Casebook, the first Florida account,that mentions skunkape was from 23 may 1977 near town of La Belle (east of Ft. Myers). Who knows for sure, who coined the name? Good question though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to my Bigfoot Casebook, the first Florida account,that mentions skunkape was from 23 may 1977 near town of La Belle (east of Ft. Myers). Who knows for sure, who coined the name? Good question though.</p>
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		<title>By: Loren Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loren Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 17:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone did.

Apparently one of Wikipedia&#039;s contributing authors read Cryptomundo.  I see an addition to the entry there has already been added, with a link to this discussion.  Perhaps this will result in more answers to the question of the name&#039;s origin.

Great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone did.</p>
<p>Apparently one of Wikipedia&#8217;s contributing authors read Cryptomundo.  I see an addition to the entry there has already been added, with a link to this discussion.  Perhaps this will result in more answers to the question of the name&#8217;s origin.</p>
<p>Great.</p>
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