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		<title>By: Nominay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nominay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 00:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I feel bad for the Serval. I like servals. Is that the best a cheetah can do for dinner - another cat?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel bad for the Serval. I like servals. Is that the best a cheetah can do for dinner &#8211; another cat?</p>
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		<title>By: Bele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 23:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It might be a white sort of &quot;blue roan&quot; with a nice dappling to it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might be a white sort of &#8220;blue roan&#8221; with a nice dappling to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Bele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 23:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And that is most DEFINITLY not an Onza. Onza are not so light in color. But it might be related to the king cheetah, because its spots are, of course, gone. It might be a king cheetah that is (obviously) a genetic mutation or perhaps even a white morph.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that is most DEFINITLY not an Onza. Onza are not so light in color. But it might be related to the king cheetah, because its spots are, of course, gone. It might be a king cheetah that is (obviously) a genetic mutation or perhaps even a white morph.</p>
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		<title>By: Bele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is a GREAT shot!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a GREAT shot!!!</p>
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		<title>By: arewethereyeti</title>
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		<dc:creator>arewethereyeti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 02:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Karl Shuker

Thank you for rectifying my misguided attempt at explaining the Timbavati lions&#039; genetic heritage.  

Your post, vis a vis mine, nicely illustrates the differences between someone who knows what he&#039;s talking about and someone who THINKS he knows... ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Karl Shuker</p>
<p>Thank you for rectifying my misguided attempt at explaining the Timbavati lions&#8217; genetic heritage.  </p>
<p>Your post, vis a vis mine, nicely illustrates the differences between someone who knows what he&#8217;s talking about and someone who THINKS he knows&#8230; <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: karlshuker</title>
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		<dc:creator>karlshuker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guy Combes, the photographer and artist who submitted the photo of this remarkable cheetah, contacted me a while ago to ask my opinion as to its likely nature. I agree that it is not a white cheetah, i.e. an albino. It may possibly be leucistic, i.e. exhibiting dilute background pigmentation, but normal eyes and extremities. Far more interesting is the extremely reduced spotting, which is nothing more than a very fine dusting of speckles, rather than the typical bold polka-dot spotting of the normal cheetah morph. This is extremely reminiscent of the fine-speckled servaline morph of the serval - so much so that I consider it very plausible that this cheetah individual&#039;s coat patterning is an expression of the same mutant gene allele(s) responsible for the servaline&#039;s. I only know of one previous cheetah specimen resembling this one - a skin obtained in Tanzania in 1921 - which, on account of its coat pattern&#039;s resemblance to the servaline&#039;s, in various writings of mine I duly dubbed a cheetaline. So now, 90 years later, a second one has turned up, again in East Africa (Kenya this time), indicating that the genetic basis for it has persisted in the East African cheetah gene pool. Incidentally, the white lions of Timbavati are not leucistic, because their eyes are blue and their nose, paw pads, and other extremities exhibit reduced pigmentation, whereas leucistic lions (as present in many zoos and safari parks worldwide) have normal-coloured eyes, nose, paw pads. The Timbavati white lions are, instead, recessive for the chinchilla mutant allele - the same allele responsible for the Rewa white tigers and also, most probably, the blue-spotted white cheetah of Jahangir.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guy Combes, the photographer and artist who submitted the photo of this remarkable cheetah, contacted me a while ago to ask my opinion as to its likely nature. I agree that it is not a white cheetah, i.e. an albino. It may possibly be leucistic, i.e. exhibiting dilute background pigmentation, but normal eyes and extremities. Far more interesting is the extremely reduced spotting, which is nothing more than a very fine dusting of speckles, rather than the typical bold polka-dot spotting of the normal cheetah morph. This is extremely reminiscent of the fine-speckled servaline morph of the serval &#8211; so much so that I consider it very plausible that this cheetah individual&#8217;s coat patterning is an expression of the same mutant gene allele(s) responsible for the servaline&#8217;s. I only know of one previous cheetah specimen resembling this one &#8211; a skin obtained in Tanzania in 1921 &#8211; which, on account of its coat pattern&#8217;s resemblance to the servaline&#8217;s, in various writings of mine I duly dubbed a cheetaline. So now, 90 years later, a second one has turned up, again in East Africa (Kenya this time), indicating that the genetic basis for it has persisted in the East African cheetah gene pool. Incidentally, the white lions of Timbavati are not leucistic, because their eyes are blue and their nose, paw pads, and other extremities exhibit reduced pigmentation, whereas leucistic lions (as present in many zoos and safari parks worldwide) have normal-coloured eyes, nose, paw pads. The Timbavati white lions are, instead, recessive for the chinchilla mutant allele &#8211; the same allele responsible for the Rewa white tigers and also, most probably, the blue-spotted white cheetah of Jahangir.</p>
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		<title>By: arewethereyeti</title>
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		<dc:creator>arewethereyeti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 16:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Loren &amp; Craig:

Thank you both for pointing out the &quot;Cryptid Summer&quot; and &quot;Fake Monster&quot; links - I&#039;ve since checked &#039;em out - cool stuff!

Now, more apropos to the matter at hand, I would add that it appears the Cheetah, more so than the other big cats, underwent a severe population bottleneck at the end of the last Ice Age, leading to inbreeding and consequently, very limited genetic diversity.  As such, it is perhaps not so surprising that the Cheetah&#039;s limited gene pool would pair-up the necessary recessive genes to produce odd color morphs such as the so-called &quot;white&quot; and &quot;King Cheetah&quot; phases.

Moreover, after reviewing the io9 website photos, I agree with  Sordes that the specimen in question is not so much &quot;white&quot; as &quot;unspotted.&quot;  Also, as Remobec indicated, the animal is definitely not an albino, having normal-colored eyes and nose.  To that, I would add the dark &quot;tear drop&quot; markings, running down from the  corner of the eyes to the mouth, and found on all regularly-colored cheetahs.  Said markings are thought to provide the same benefits of Eye-Black, daubed-on beneath athlete&#039;s eyes: cutting down on glare and improving contrast under brightly-lit conditions.

As I recall, the White Lions of Timbavati, which were not albinos, but leucistic (having reduced pigmentation in [only]their fur) were &quot;white&quot; at birth but became a bit tawnier as they aged.  I suspect our cheetah-in-question followed a similar path.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loren &amp; Craig:</p>
<p>Thank you both for pointing out the &#8220;Cryptid Summer&#8221; and &#8220;Fake Monster&#8221; links &#8211; I&#8217;ve since checked &#8216;em out &#8211; cool stuff!</p>
<p>Now, more apropos to the matter at hand, I would add that it appears the Cheetah, more so than the other big cats, underwent a severe population bottleneck at the end of the last Ice Age, leading to inbreeding and consequently, very limited genetic diversity.  As such, it is perhaps not so surprising that the Cheetah&#8217;s limited gene pool would pair-up the necessary recessive genes to produce odd color morphs such as the so-called &#8220;white&#8221; and &#8220;King Cheetah&#8221; phases.</p>
<p>Moreover, after reviewing the io9 website photos, I agree with  Sordes that the specimen in question is not so much &#8220;white&#8221; as &#8220;unspotted.&#8221;  Also, as Remobec indicated, the animal is definitely not an albino, having normal-colored eyes and nose.  To that, I would add the dark &#8220;tear drop&#8221; markings, running down from the  corner of the eyes to the mouth, and found on all regularly-colored cheetahs.  Said markings are thought to provide the same benefits of Eye-Black, daubed-on beneath athlete&#8217;s eyes: cutting down on glare and improving contrast under brightly-lit conditions.</p>
<p>As I recall, the White Lions of Timbavati, which were not albinos, but leucistic (having reduced pigmentation in [only]their fur) were &#8220;white&#8221; at birth but became a bit tawnier as they aged.  I suspect our cheetah-in-question followed a similar path.</p>
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		<title>By: Sordes</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2011 12:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some notes about this wonderful animal:

It is surely not white or somehow hyomelanistic, it is only lacking the normal spots (except some very small ones), so it seems brighter than normal cheetahs, but actually its basic colour is not different from normal cheetahs. It is also not bulkier than normal cheetahs at all, if you compare it with other specimens. 

The hybrid idea is highly unlikely. Not only for reasons of different behavior, but also because both species are not very closely related. Tigers, jaguars, lions and leopards are all comparably closely related, but cheetahs belong to another evolutionary line. I don&#039;t say it would be completely impossible, as there were some few hybrids in captivity between leopards and pumas. 

But on the other hand the cheetah in question is only a cheetah without spots, there is nothing indicating any anomalies which would imply a hybrid origin.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some notes about this wonderful animal:</p>
<p>It is surely not white or somehow hyomelanistic, it is only lacking the normal spots (except some very small ones), so it seems brighter than normal cheetahs, but actually its basic colour is not different from normal cheetahs. It is also not bulkier than normal cheetahs at all, if you compare it with other specimens. </p>
<p>The hybrid idea is highly unlikely. Not only for reasons of different behavior, but also because both species are not very closely related. Tigers, jaguars, lions and leopards are all comparably closely related, but cheetahs belong to another evolutionary line. I don&#8217;t say it would be completely impossible, as there were some few hybrids in captivity between leopards and pumas. </p>
<p>But on the other hand the cheetah in question is only a cheetah without spots, there is nothing indicating any anomalies which would imply a hybrid origin.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff11</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2011 04:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Awesome photos. Cheetahs are not closely related to the Panteras (Lions, Tigers, Jaguars) which would seem to rule out hybridization.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome photos. Cheetahs are not closely related to the Panteras (Lions, Tigers, Jaguars) which would seem to rule out hybridization.</p>
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		<title>By: Cryptidcrazy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cryptidcrazy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 19:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This may be a dumb question, but could it be possible that a lion and a cheetah cross bred, creating this hybrid. I know that in cases where different big cats were kept together in animal parks, zoos and other areas, Lions and Tigers, cougars and Jaguars and many other different combinations of cats, have created hybrids. Is it possible this could have happened in the wild? I say this because the cheetah in the photo, not only looks to have lion fur, but to me, it looks more massive than most cheetahs, I have ever seen. Cheetahs are normally very sleek and slim. They are to big cats, what greyhounds are to domestic dogs. This cat seems to be heavier, with more mass.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may be a dumb question, but could it be possible that a lion and a cheetah cross bred, creating this hybrid. I know that in cases where different big cats were kept together in animal parks, zoos and other areas, Lions and Tigers, cougars and Jaguars and many other different combinations of cats, have created hybrids. Is it possible this could have happened in the wild? I say this because the cheetah in the photo, not only looks to have lion fur, but to me, it looks more massive than most cheetahs, I have ever seen. Cheetahs are normally very sleek and slim. They are to big cats, what greyhounds are to domestic dogs. This cat seems to be heavier, with more mass.</p>
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