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		<title>By: Loren Coleman</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/voa-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-1897</link>
		<dc:creator>Loren Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 12:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, all this is part of what happened.  I did a detailed media analysis of the Wallace fiasco that I shared with Matt Moneymaker and John Green, as well as a few others &quot;organizing&quot; the Willow Creek symposium.

I tracked the chronological and geographical distribution of how the story had developed from my emails and talk with Steve Young at the Seattle Times, to the &quot;death of Bigfoot&quot; stupidity on the West Coast to the East Coast versions, which then skipped to the English and Scottish papers where the link between Wallace&#039;s wife-as-Bigfoot films first became confused with the Patterson-Gimlin footage.  Then I pointed out how the Scottish dispatch was picked up by the San Francisco and other California papers and the two film stories were merged in the American media&#039;s mentality.

My analysis and critique of the media was to be presented at the Willow Creek symposium by me.  But then, due to some local disagreements about the BFRO&#039;s role in inviting people, and the lack of power John Green had in supporting my talk, I was &quot;uninvited&quot; because I was from the East Coast and not a &quot;West Coast&quot; researcher (despite my 40 plus years of bi-coastal investigations).  That&#039;s a whole other story, and I won&#039;t go into it deeply here.  But I was shocked to see that my media analysis began showing up on websites and in others&#039; talks, despite my initial discoveries of how the &quot;mangling&quot; occurred and actually evolved.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, all this is part of what happened.  I did a detailed media analysis of the Wallace fiasco that I shared with Matt Moneymaker and John Green, as well as a few others &#8220;organizing&#8221; the Willow Creek symposium.</p>
<p>I tracked the chronological and geographical distribution of how the story had developed from my emails and talk with Steve Young at the Seattle Times, to the &#8220;death of Bigfoot&#8221; stupidity on the West Coast to the East Coast versions, which then skipped to the English and Scottish papers where the link between Wallace&#8217;s wife-as-Bigfoot films first became confused with the Patterson-Gimlin footage.  Then I pointed out how the Scottish dispatch was picked up by the San Francisco and other California papers and the two film stories were merged in the American media&#8217;s mentality.</p>
<p>My analysis and critique of the media was to be presented at the Willow Creek symposium by me.  But then, due to some local disagreements about the BFRO&#8217;s role in inviting people, and the lack of power John Green had in supporting my talk, I was &#8220;uninvited&#8221; because I was from the East Coast and not a &#8220;West Coast&#8221; researcher (despite my 40 plus years of bi-coastal investigations).  That&#8217;s a whole other story, and I won&#8217;t go into it deeply here.  But I was shocked to see that my media analysis began showing up on websites and in others&#8217; talks, despite my initial discoveries of how the &#8220;mangling&#8221; occurred and actually evolved.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Knights</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/voa-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-1896</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Knights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 04:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suspect the VOA picked up this version from an online archive of one of the newspapers that mangled the original Seattle Times obituary. Here’s John Green’s account of the mangling that occurred in “&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bigfootencounters.com/articles/wallace_flap.htm&quot;&gt;Bigfoot Did Not Die&lt;/a&gt;”.

“The Wallaces had said, as just about every Sasquatch investigator already knew, that Ray had made fake Bigfoot photos and movies, featuring his wife wearing a fur costume. But they also said that Ray had nothing to do with the famous Bigfoot movie taken by Roger Patterson at Bluff Creek in 1967. The media fire stormed however, and eventually made Mrs. Wallace the subject of the Patterson movie, with Ray as the cameraman.”

And here’s one such mangled version, by John M. Hubbell from the San Francisco Chronicle, 12/7/02, titled, “Bigfoot backers mourning
But they remain Yeti loyalists despite family&#039;s admission of hoax”:
&quot;Ray L. Wallace was Bigfoot,&quot; his son Michael told the Seattle Times in a story published Thursday, a claim few sons can make beyond metaphor. &quot;The reality is, Bigfoot just died.&quot;
And he said 1967&#039;s famous &quot;Patterson-Gimlin Film&quot; -- a grainy home movie that allegedly captures a startled specimen fleeing a streambed -- may be only his obliging mother wearing a monkey suit. [The Seattle Times obituary didn’t say that—the writer for the SF Chronicle mashed it together in his mind--RK.]
The elder Wallace had told the film&#039;s shooters where they could spot the Sasquatch, said Ray Crowe, founder of the International Bigfoot Society in Hillsborough, Ore.
But, that’s unlikely, since Wallace was not in the area, having moved to Toledo, WA several years prior to 1967. (According to the first page of Ch. 3 of Patterson’s book—on p. 73 of the 2005 reprint titled “The Bigfoot Film Controversy.”) Toledo is 511 miles from Willow Creek—a ten-hour drive—according to Google Maps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect the VOA picked up this version from an online archive of one of the newspapers that mangled the original Seattle Times obituary. Here’s John Green’s account of the mangling that occurred in “<a href="http://www.bigfootencounters.com/articles/wallace_flap.htm">Bigfoot Did Not Die</a>”.</p>
<p>“The Wallaces had said, as just about every Sasquatch investigator already knew, that Ray had made fake Bigfoot photos and movies, featuring his wife wearing a fur costume. But they also said that Ray had nothing to do with the famous Bigfoot movie taken by Roger Patterson at Bluff Creek in 1967. The media fire stormed however, and eventually made Mrs. Wallace the subject of the Patterson movie, with Ray as the cameraman.”</p>
<p>And here’s one such mangled version, by John M. Hubbell from the San Francisco Chronicle, 12/7/02, titled, “Bigfoot backers mourning<br />
But they remain Yeti loyalists despite family&#8217;s admission of hoax”:<br />
&#8220;Ray L. Wallace was Bigfoot,&#8221; his son Michael told the Seattle Times in a story published Thursday, a claim few sons can make beyond metaphor. &#8220;The reality is, Bigfoot just died.&#8221;<br />
And he said 1967&#8242;s famous &#8220;Patterson-Gimlin Film&#8221; &#8212; a grainy home movie that allegedly captures a startled specimen fleeing a streambed &#8212; may be only his obliging mother wearing a monkey suit. [The Seattle Times obituary didn’t say that—the writer for the SF Chronicle mashed it together in his mind--RK.]<br />
The elder Wallace had told the film&#8217;s shooters where they could spot the Sasquatch, said Ray Crowe, founder of the International Bigfoot Society in Hillsborough, Ore.<br />
But, that’s unlikely, since Wallace was not in the area, having moved to Toledo, WA several years prior to 1967. (According to the first page of Ch. 3 of Patterson’s book—on p. 73 of the 2005 reprint titled “The Bigfoot Film Controversy.”) Toledo is 511 miles from Willow Creek—a ten-hour drive—according to Google Maps.</p>
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		<title>By: CryptoInformant</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/voa-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-1895</link>
		<dc:creator>CryptoInformant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2006 06:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gee.... I thought TB the BS King could spout some major BS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee&#8230;. I thought TB the BS King could spout some major BS.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack D.</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/voa-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-1894</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 17:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Journalism, in general, isn&#039;t what it should be. Or maybe even what it used to be. This is a prime example.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Journalism, in general, isn&#8217;t what it should be. Or maybe even what it used to be. This is a prime example.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Radford</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/voa-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-1893</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Radford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seems to me like pretty typical, slapdash journalism... I don&#039;t know why anyone should be surprised.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me like pretty typical, slapdash journalism&#8230; I don&#8217;t know why anyone should be surprised.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Knights</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/voa-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-1892</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Knights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 04:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe that ads appealing for donations would have been on behalf of Radio Free Europe, which was privately funded. VOA was and is government-funded and run.

Perhaps the expert who said the Patterson family had admitted a hoax could be requested to issue a retraction of her libelous (to the Patterson family) statement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that ads appealing for donations would have been on behalf of Radio Free Europe, which was privately funded. VOA was and is government-funded and run.</p>
<p>Perhaps the expert who said the Patterson family had admitted a hoax could be requested to issue a retraction of her libelous (to the Patterson family) statement.</p>
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		<title>By: eyeofnewt</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/voa-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-1891</link>
		<dc:creator>eyeofnewt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 00:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We should never forget that the VOA began life as a government propaganda organ, broadcasting a very biased &quot;truth&quot; across the so-called Iron Curtain. I still recall from childhood the TV commercials of a scowling Commie kicking in some helpless woman&#039;s door, shouting &quot;Nyet!&quot; and smashing her radio with an axe--followed, of course, by a plea for donations to support the VOA.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should never forget that the VOA began life as a government propaganda organ, broadcasting a very biased &#8220;truth&#8221; across the so-called Iron Curtain. I still recall from childhood the TV commercials of a scowling Commie kicking in some helpless woman&#8217;s door, shouting &#8220;Nyet!&#8221; and smashing her radio with an axe&#8211;followed, of course, by a plea for donations to support the VOA.</p>
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		<title>By: Freelancer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freelancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This reminds me of the so-called expert who appeared on &quot;Good Morning America&quot; a few months ago when results of DNA tests done on some hair found in Alaska by two boys who thought it was from a bigfoot, came in. She said Roger Patterson&#039;s family had recently admitted that the 1967 Patterson-Gimlin film was a hoax.
  The hair the boys found turned out to be from a Bison.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of the so-called expert who appeared on &#8220;Good Morning America&#8221; a few months ago when results of DNA tests done on some hair found in Alaska by two boys who thought it was from a bigfoot, came in. She said Roger Patterson&#8217;s family had recently admitted that the 1967 Patterson-Gimlin film was a hoax.<br />
  The hair the boys found turned out to be from a Bison.</p>
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		<title>By: krifle</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/voa-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-1889</link>
		<dc:creator>krifle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unbelievable.  Thank heavens for Loren Coleman.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unbelievable.  Thank heavens for Loren Coleman.</p>
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