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		<title>By: dogu4</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/tsushima-cat/comment-page-1/#comment-40934</link>
		<dc:creator>dogu4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 23:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great points MM and Kittenz...I&#039;m a splitter when it&#039;s sensible and a clumper when it&#039;s not and what usually casts the die for me is what will express the highest level of protection and interest. Regardless of the criteria for what is or what isn&#039;t a species from the molecular genetic point of view, they are definitely seperate species in the sense of their being seperate populations and no doubt genetic drift is more likely to keep them that way as if the significant amount of sea water wouldn&#039;t. Thanks for the great information, as always. I&#039;m hoping to see them myself some day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points MM and Kittenz&#8230;I&#8217;m a splitter when it&#8217;s sensible and a clumper when it&#8217;s not and what usually casts the die for me is what will express the highest level of protection and interest. Regardless of the criteria for what is or what isn&#8217;t a species from the molecular genetic point of view, they are definitely seperate species in the sense of their being seperate populations and no doubt genetic drift is more likely to keep them that way as if the significant amount of sea water wouldn&#8217;t. Thanks for the great information, as always. I&#8217;m hoping to see them myself some day.</p>
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		<title>By: kittenz</title>
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		<dc:creator>kittenz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 17:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LOL mystery_man, me too!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL mystery_man, me too!</p>
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		<title>By: mystery_man</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/tsushima-cat/comment-page-1/#comment-40932</link>
		<dc:creator>mystery_man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kittenz- That&#039;s pretty much my take on it. The Tsushima cat is a subspecies of leopard cat and the Iriomote could very well be its own distinct species. Even experts do not all agree on the classification of these cats though, as I mentioned before. There is debate and discussion. Anyway, I&#039;m a splitter myself. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kittenz- That&#8217;s pretty much my take on it. The Tsushima cat is a subspecies of leopard cat and the Iriomote could very well be its own distinct species. Even experts do not all agree on the classification of these cats though, as I mentioned before. There is debate and discussion. Anyway, I&#8217;m a splitter myself. <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: kittenz</title>
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		<dc:creator>kittenz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s a good reason for the Tsushima Cat to resemble a domestic Bengal, since the development of the Bengal breed was initiated by crossing female domestic cats with male Leopard Cats. The hybrid kittens in subsequent generations were bred again with domestic cats and with other domestic/Leopard Cat hybrids, until the breed was stabilized as the beautiful Bengals that we see today.

Whether to consider the Iriomote Cats &amp; Tsushima Cats to be island species in their own right, or subspecies one of the other, or either or both subspecies of the Leopard Cat, depends largely on which authority you consult. I personally think that the Iriomote Cat is distinct enough to be considered a separate (albeit closely related) species. From what I have seen and read of the Tsushima Cats, they appear to be an distinct island subspecies of Leopard Cat.

In recent years there has been a tendency among taxonomists to be &quot;lumpers&quot;, relegating a lot of animals formerly thought of as separate species to subspecies status and greatly reducing the number of generally accepted subspecies as well. I think that we are seeing some degree of reversal in this trend. Especially as the technology to decode DNA becomes ever more precise, I think that more cats will be recognized as distinct subspecies or even species.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a good reason for the Tsushima Cat to resemble a domestic Bengal, since the development of the Bengal breed was initiated by crossing female domestic cats with male Leopard Cats. The hybrid kittens in subsequent generations were bred again with domestic cats and with other domestic/Leopard Cat hybrids, until the breed was stabilized as the beautiful Bengals that we see today.</p>
<p>Whether to consider the Iriomote Cats &amp; Tsushima Cats to be island species in their own right, or subspecies one of the other, or either or both subspecies of the Leopard Cat, depends largely on which authority you consult. I personally think that the Iriomote Cat is distinct enough to be considered a separate (albeit closely related) species. From what I have seen and read of the Tsushima Cats, they appear to be an distinct island subspecies of Leopard Cat.</p>
<p>In recent years there has been a tendency among taxonomists to be &#8220;lumpers&#8221;, relegating a lot of animals formerly thought of as separate species to subspecies status and greatly reducing the number of generally accepted subspecies as well. I think that we are seeing some degree of reversal in this trend. Especially as the technology to decode DNA becomes ever more precise, I think that more cats will be recognized as distinct subspecies or even species.</p>
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		<title>By: Maine Crypto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maine Crypto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 11:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This cat looks like my mother in law&#039;s Bengal cat!  It is beautiful, I love the tail.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This cat looks like my mother in law&#8217;s Bengal cat!  It is beautiful, I love the tail.</p>
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		<title>By: mystery_man</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 09:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would say that based on the research I have read on the genetics of the Iriomote and Tsushima cats, they are two both sub-species of leopard cat as the two have been shown to share the same mitochondrial DNA lineage as the leopard cat (Felis bengalensis). Because they have been geographically isolated on their respective islands for so long, they have developed fixations of unique genetic and morphological characteristics due to adaptation and genetic drift. Essentially, they are very close to their original leopard cat stock, yet morphology and molecular phylogeny show them to show enough variation to be seperately classified as subspecies. Some have said in the past that the Iriomote cat was a seperate genus (Mayailurus) because it seemed to share characteristics with the leopard cat genus Prionailurus, yet also showed some affinity with the genera Pardofelis and Profelis. I&#039;m sure there are those who would still argue that point.

Many think that the Tsushima cat is merely a variant of the Manchurian or Eastern subspecies of leopard cat, but I tend to think there could be enough there to make it a separate subspecies. It might seem like nitpicking or an unimportant distinction to some, but for the cats themselves, recognition as a species or sub-species can be very important as it can alter their conservation status.

Anyway, like I said, taxonomy can be tricky and the discussion is likely to continue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say that based on the research I have read on the genetics of the Iriomote and Tsushima cats, they are two both sub-species of leopard cat as the two have been shown to share the same mitochondrial DNA lineage as the leopard cat (Felis bengalensis). Because they have been geographically isolated on their respective islands for so long, they have developed fixations of unique genetic and morphological characteristics due to adaptation and genetic drift. Essentially, they are very close to their original leopard cat stock, yet morphology and molecular phylogeny show them to show enough variation to be seperately classified as subspecies. Some have said in the past that the Iriomote cat was a seperate genus (Mayailurus) because it seemed to share characteristics with the leopard cat genus Prionailurus, yet also showed some affinity with the genera Pardofelis and Profelis. I&#8217;m sure there are those who would still argue that point.</p>
<p>Many think that the Tsushima cat is merely a variant of the Manchurian or Eastern subspecies of leopard cat, but I tend to think there could be enough there to make it a separate subspecies. It might seem like nitpicking or an unimportant distinction to some, but for the cats themselves, recognition as a species or sub-species can be very important as it can alter their conservation status.</p>
<p>Anyway, like I said, taxonomy can be tricky and the discussion is likely to continue.</p>
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		<title>By: mystery_man</title>
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		<dc:creator>mystery_man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 08:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The taxonomy of both this cat and the Iriomote cat is disputed and constantly being evaluated. Some would say that the above list of subspecies of leopard cat should also include the Iriomote cat as Prionailurus bengalensis iriomotensis, while others disagree and say it is a separate species, a close relative of the leopard cat (basically a genetic variant within the same group), or even the sole member of its own genus.

The same kind of taxonomy difficulty can be seen with the Tsushima cat. Unlike the Iriomote cat (which is seen more by some to be a separate species) the Tsushima cat is definitely considered to be a subspecies of leopard cat, yet there is still dispute as to how to classify it. Some say the Tsushima cat is the same as the manchurian subspecies of leopard cat, but not everyone agrees. In fact, many sources you will see list this cat as Prionailurus bengalensis euptilura, saying that it is more or less the same as the Eastern Siberian Amur leopard cat. Still others list it as its own subspecies and label it Prionailurus bengalensis tsushimansis. Taxonomy can be a confusing thing and it is very much so with cats.

The only points that seem to be agreed upon with the classification of the Tsushima cat is that
1) It is different from the Iriomote cat
and
2) it is a subspecies of leopard cat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The taxonomy of both this cat and the Iriomote cat is disputed and constantly being evaluated. Some would say that the above list of subspecies of leopard cat should also include the Iriomote cat as Prionailurus bengalensis iriomotensis, while others disagree and say it is a separate species, a close relative of the leopard cat (basically a genetic variant within the same group), or even the sole member of its own genus.</p>
<p>The same kind of taxonomy difficulty can be seen with the Tsushima cat. Unlike the Iriomote cat (which is seen more by some to be a separate species) the Tsushima cat is definitely considered to be a subspecies of leopard cat, yet there is still dispute as to how to classify it. Some say the Tsushima cat is the same as the manchurian subspecies of leopard cat, but not everyone agrees. In fact, many sources you will see list this cat as Prionailurus bengalensis euptilura, saying that it is more or less the same as the Eastern Siberian Amur leopard cat. Still others list it as its own subspecies and label it Prionailurus bengalensis tsushimansis. Taxonomy can be a confusing thing and it is very much so with cats.</p>
<p>The only points that seem to be agreed upon with the classification of the Tsushima cat is that<br />
1) It is different from the Iriomote cat<br />
and<br />
2) it is a subspecies of leopard cat.</p>
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		<title>By: CryptoHaus_Press</title>
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		<dc:creator>CryptoHaus_Press</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[beautiful animal... one can almost picture a &#039;squatch domesticating one as a pet! ;)

seriously, though, thanks for the update! i&#039;ve learned more about existing animals once thought mythic or &#039;folklore&#039; since participating in this forum than i have reading SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN for a dozen years!

keep up the good work, everyone! much appreciated here!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>beautiful animal&#8230; one can almost picture a &#8216;squatch domesticating one as a pet! <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>seriously, though, thanks for the update! i&#8217;ve learned more about existing animals once thought mythic or &#8216;folklore&#8217; since participating in this forum than i have reading SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN for a dozen years!</p>
<p>keep up the good work, everyone! much appreciated here!</p>
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		<title>By: Mnynames</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mnynames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 06:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought I read somewhere that the Borneo Leopard Cat was upgraded to species status.  Anyone else hear that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought I read somewhere that the Borneo Leopard Cat was upgraded to species status.  Anyone else hear that?</p>
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