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		<title>By: springheeledjack</title>
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		<dc:creator>springheeledjack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 03:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes to everyone else that said this--there&#039;s been plenty of flap in recent years about the validity of hypnosis as a tool at all because of the subjectivity involved.  It&#039;s raised a lot of questions about that vulnerable and suggestive state and the ability to mess with it.  

If you want to break it down, pretty much anything and everything has a subjective side to it.  Artists who draw recreations may well stick to the details given, but they are also biased by their own perceptions to a degree (and I&#039;m giving fair balance to those who try their best to keep their own perceptions in check).  

With BF, people are seeing something and it&#039;s an animate creature walking bipedally (most of the time) and so on.  I&#039;ve read too many accounts on the BFRO site recently where people found the site and wrote in.  Some were questioned after the account to bring out more details, but the similarities between so many people without individual interactions leads me to believe there&#039;s a creature out there.

My own personal perception of hypnosis is akin to going back to leeching as a means of healing instead of current medical practices.  Hypnosis certainly has no more respect among the general public (not to mention the scientific community--not that I&#039;m all that concerned or worried about the opinion of the scientific community these days) than present methods of investigating BF and introducing it into the &quot;investigative repertoire&quot;, to me, is only adding more hokem.

Yeah.  Let&#039;s keep it clean and by the book.  Investigate, get as many details as you can and move on to the next account until we can pin down enough information to anticipate and give our investigations an edge in the field so that we can get the &quot;proof&quot; we need to set this to rest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes to everyone else that said this&#8211;there&#8217;s been plenty of flap in recent years about the validity of hypnosis as a tool at all because of the subjectivity involved.  It&#8217;s raised a lot of questions about that vulnerable and suggestive state and the ability to mess with it.  </p>
<p>If you want to break it down, pretty much anything and everything has a subjective side to it.  Artists who draw recreations may well stick to the details given, but they are also biased by their own perceptions to a degree (and I&#8217;m giving fair balance to those who try their best to keep their own perceptions in check).  </p>
<p>With BF, people are seeing something and it&#8217;s an animate creature walking bipedally (most of the time) and so on.  I&#8217;ve read too many accounts on the BFRO site recently where people found the site and wrote in.  Some were questioned after the account to bring out more details, but the similarities between so many people without individual interactions leads me to believe there&#8217;s a creature out there.</p>
<p>My own personal perception of hypnosis is akin to going back to leeching as a means of healing instead of current medical practices.  Hypnosis certainly has no more respect among the general public (not to mention the scientific community&#8211;not that I&#8217;m all that concerned or worried about the opinion of the scientific community these days) than present methods of investigating BF and introducing it into the &#8220;investigative repertoire&#8221;, to me, is only adding more hokem.</p>
<p>Yeah.  Let&#8217;s keep it clean and by the book.  Investigate, get as many details as you can and move on to the next account until we can pin down enough information to anticipate and give our investigations an edge in the field so that we can get the &#8220;proof&#8221; we need to set this to rest.</p>
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		<title>By: Novelhawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Novelhawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 17:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with DWA - cryptozoology has made great progress towards being recognized as a legitimate discipline by the mainstream world and dabbling in hypnotherapy or pushing the study of unknown animals towards the paranormal only diminishes the gains that have been made.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with DWA &#8211; cryptozoology has made great progress towards being recognized as a legitimate discipline by the mainstream world and dabbling in hypnotherapy or pushing the study of unknown animals towards the paranormal only diminishes the gains that have been made.</p>
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		<title>By: DWA</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/time-to/comment-page-1/#comment-79601</link>
		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 12:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now I believe we are veering a weetad into woo-woo.

People are seeing an animal.  They saw it cold sober and are describing it, very consistently, in cold sober terms.

It&#039;s bad enough that this topic has been conflated with the paranormal.  Let&#039;s not make it worse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I believe we are veering a weetad into woo-woo.</p>
<p>People are seeing an animal.  They saw it cold sober and are describing it, very consistently, in cold sober terms.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s bad enough that this topic has been conflated with the paranormal.  Let&#8217;s not make it worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Ulysses</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/time-to/comment-page-1/#comment-79600</link>
		<dc:creator>Ulysses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 12:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Absolutely the best article written in years and may I say, would deserve a book with all the information that can be conveyed, it&#039;s mind boggling. Moving beyond that, how about the cave paintings depicting Giants or supernatural beings?  What&#039;s the psychology of a caveman, to use a colloquial term, did they exaggerate what they drew? Were their minds able to do that? Where does that leave us?  Please more Loren.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely the best article written in years and may I say, would deserve a book with all the information that can be conveyed, it&#8217;s mind boggling. Moving beyond that, how about the cave paintings depicting Giants or supernatural beings?  What&#8217;s the psychology of a caveman, to use a colloquial term, did they exaggerate what they drew? Were their minds able to do that? Where does that leave us?  Please more Loren.</p>
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		<title>By: hawksblood1</title>
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		<dc:creator>hawksblood1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 08:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well I would like to say as far as Hypnosis to think a Medical Hypnotist would be better then any other is a joke. That is like saying a Minister knows more about God then a person that had a near death experience and had a experience with It. 
  The  Difference  between them is one just read about it while the other experienced It. First of all Medical Doctors will not admit to either aliens or Bigfoot. I was doing past life regression when I was young. It was not even really excepted as a real thing. Kreskin made it famous in the early 60&#039;s. I started right after metting with him. I called it past life regression around 1969. Past lives were also not excepted as real, even then.
    I had my first experience with a alien when I was 12. I had my first Sasquatch experience when I was 48. My good friend was working with them for over 40 years. So they are as real as anything else to me but they are different.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I would like to say as far as Hypnosis to think a Medical Hypnotist would be better then any other is a joke. That is like saying a Minister knows more about God then a person that had a near death experience and had a experience with It.<br />
  The  Difference  between them is one just read about it while the other experienced It. First of all Medical Doctors will not admit to either aliens or Bigfoot. I was doing past life regression when I was young. It was not even really excepted as a real thing. Kreskin made it famous in the early 60&#8242;s. I started right after metting with him. I called it past life regression around 1969. Past lives were also not excepted as real, even then.<br />
    I had my first experience with a alien when I was 12. I had my first Sasquatch experience when I was 48. My good friend was working with them for over 40 years. So they are as real as anything else to me but they are different.</p>
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		<title>By: red_pill_junkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>red_pill_junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 03:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What would happen if Bigfoot witnesses were submitted to hypnosis? I think it depends on the quality of the hypnotherapist being employed; and even more importantly, the level of neutrality of the hypnotherapist with regards to the nature of the case being investigated.

I remember reading in one of Vallee&#039;s books how he speculated that aside the usual objections being given to the employment of hypnosis that could contaminate the memories of the witness through the use of leading questions, that there was also another possibility that would lead to contamination: the non-verbal transfer of the expectations of the enquirer into the mind of the hypnotized subject --in other words, telepathy.

What would happen if the therapist is someone convinced all Bigfoot sightings are hoaxes? Would the witness &#039;remember&#039; through the hypnosis that the hairy creature it saw was actually a man in a gorilla suit? Would the witness even remember seeing the zipper line in the Bigfoot&#039;s back?

So, I really don&#039;t know if hypnosis would be a valuable tool to gain more data in Cryptozoology.

But there&#039;s another thing: Do Cryptozoologists bother to re-visit witnesses after 10, 20 or 30 years, to find out how much the sighting of an alleged unknown creature has influenced in the lives of the witness? I think the only ones who have been interviewed so extensively have been Albert Ostman and Robert Gimlin, and the focus of those interviews have only been to test the deviation in the original accounts through the pass of time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would happen if Bigfoot witnesses were submitted to hypnosis? I think it depends on the quality of the hypnotherapist being employed; and even more importantly, the level of neutrality of the hypnotherapist with regards to the nature of the case being investigated.</p>
<p>I remember reading in one of Vallee&#8217;s books how he speculated that aside the usual objections being given to the employment of hypnosis that could contaminate the memories of the witness through the use of leading questions, that there was also another possibility that would lead to contamination: the non-verbal transfer of the expectations of the enquirer into the mind of the hypnotized subject &#8211;in other words, telepathy.</p>
<p>What would happen if the therapist is someone convinced all Bigfoot sightings are hoaxes? Would the witness &#8216;remember&#8217; through the hypnosis that the hairy creature it saw was actually a man in a gorilla suit? Would the witness even remember seeing the zipper line in the Bigfoot&#8217;s back?</p>
<p>So, I really don&#8217;t know if hypnosis would be a valuable tool to gain more data in Cryptozoology.</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s another thing: Do Cryptozoologists bother to re-visit witnesses after 10, 20 or 30 years, to find out how much the sighting of an alleged unknown creature has influenced in the lives of the witness? I think the only ones who have been interviewed so extensively have been Albert Ostman and Robert Gimlin, and the focus of those interviews have only been to test the deviation in the original accounts through the pass of time.</p>
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		<title>By: Massachusetts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Massachusetts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 00:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think the use of hypnosis to investigate Bigfoot eye witness accounts would be useful, and it would hurt the credibility of the field in the long run. Hypnosis places the subject in a highly suggestible state in which they are very susceptible to subtle, even unintentional, leading questions by the hypnotist, not to mention the unpredictable vagaries of the subject&#039;s own imagination. What might be an interesting notion or mental image to ponder in the normal conscious state could become entrenched as a clear, factual memory, effectively creating a highly misleading false memory. The use of hypnotism in UFO studies is widely criticized for just this reason. Many believe that eye witness accounts of alien abductions are actually crafted, not recalled, during a series of suggestions made during the hypnotic sessions. Why would this be any different when investigating a Sasquatch sighting? In a field that requires more hard, accurate, irrefutable evidence to move forward, this would be a step backwards towards the unprovable and subjective.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the use of hypnosis to investigate Bigfoot eye witness accounts would be useful, and it would hurt the credibility of the field in the long run. Hypnosis places the subject in a highly suggestible state in which they are very susceptible to subtle, even unintentional, leading questions by the hypnotist, not to mention the unpredictable vagaries of the subject&#8217;s own imagination. What might be an interesting notion or mental image to ponder in the normal conscious state could become entrenched as a clear, factual memory, effectively creating a highly misleading false memory. The use of hypnotism in UFO studies is widely criticized for just this reason. Many believe that eye witness accounts of alien abductions are actually crafted, not recalled, during a series of suggestions made during the hypnotic sessions. Why would this be any different when investigating a Sasquatch sighting? In a field that requires more hard, accurate, irrefutable evidence to move forward, this would be a step backwards towards the unprovable and subjective.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyall M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyall M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 21:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The question would be how is the hypnosis/regression going to be done? With the big hullaballoo in UFO abductee interrogation of the last few years concerning Jacobs and Hopkins it would seem that one would want to have a real medical doctor conduct the regression. Otherwise, your just handing ammo to professional debunkers. There needs to be some sort of scientific method or oversight applied in the use of regression. That was done in the 70s with Bigfoot and from the 60s to 80s with UFOs; however, in the 80s amateurs started taking over the regressions in the UFO field leading to all sorts of monkey business. I can see where it might help with certain things but it has the potential to be a big can of worms. So I would say it would for the most part be a waste of Time. 

East Texan I believe the reason it dropped off with Bigfoot was because the professionals conducting the regressions are basically getting the same descriptions all the time with little deviation so it becomes a cost benefit ratio question.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question would be how is the hypnosis/regression going to be done? With the big hullaballoo in UFO abductee interrogation of the last few years concerning Jacobs and Hopkins it would seem that one would want to have a real medical doctor conduct the regression. Otherwise, your just handing ammo to professional debunkers. There needs to be some sort of scientific method or oversight applied in the use of regression. That was done in the 70s with Bigfoot and from the 60s to 80s with UFOs; however, in the 80s amateurs started taking over the regressions in the UFO field leading to all sorts of monkey business. I can see where it might help with certain things but it has the potential to be a big can of worms. So I would say it would for the most part be a waste of Time. </p>
<p>East Texan I believe the reason it dropped off with Bigfoot was because the professionals conducting the regressions are basically getting the same descriptions all the time with little deviation so it becomes a cost benefit ratio question.</p>
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		<title>By: red_pill_junkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>red_pill_junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 17:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The cultural &#039;appropriation&#039; of cryptids is fascinating. How artists shape the look of these creatures according to their aesthetic sensibilities, and in turn how it molds our expectations with regards as how these creatures should look like.

You should have a word or two with &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_J._Kripal&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jeffrey Kripal&lt;/a&gt;, Loren. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cultural &#8216;appropriation&#8217; of cryptids is fascinating. How artists shape the look of these creatures according to their aesthetic sensibilities, and in turn how it molds our expectations with regards as how these creatures should look like.</p>
<p>You should have a word or two with <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_J._Kripal" rel="nofollow">Jeffrey Kripal</a>, Loren. <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: EastTexan</title>
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		<dc:creator>EastTexan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 04:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent article, Loren! 
 I&#039;ve often wondered why this wasn&#039;t being used as a tool in the investigation of Bigfoot sightings.  I know there are many cautions to be observed when using hypnosis in this manner, and I believe I&#039;ve read that there may be a chance the subject may try to answer in a way they perceive will please the questioner, even under hypnosis.  However, it seems this could be another useful tool to add to those already used in Bigfoot investigation.  And using it as soon after the sighting as possible, then again at a later time, could provide an interesting comparison of remembered details.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article, Loren!<br />
 I&#8217;ve often wondered why this wasn&#8217;t being used as a tool in the investigation of Bigfoot sightings.  I know there are many cautions to be observed when using hypnosis in this manner, and I believe I&#8217;ve read that there may be a chance the subject may try to answer in a way they perceive will please the questioner, even under hypnosis.  However, it seems this could be another useful tool to add to those already used in Bigfoot investigation.  And using it as soon after the sighting as possible, then again at a later time, could provide an interesting comparison of remembered details.</p>
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