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		<title>By: cryp-23</title>
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		<dc:creator>cryp-23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I live along lake Michigan in wisconsin and I have seen both giant trumpeter swans and giant canada geese (giant being 5ft tall with a 7ft wing span) theres no dought in my mind its a large swan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live along lake Michigan in wisconsin and I have seen both giant trumpeter swans and giant canada geese (giant being 5ft tall with a 7ft wing span) theres no dought in my mind its a large swan.</p>
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		<title>By: Artist</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 02:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This story gives me goose-bumps!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This story gives me goose-bumps!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Michaels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Michaels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 01:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[May the Goose be with you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May the Goose be with you!</p>
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		<title>By: Alligator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alligator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 00:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The historic breeding range of the trumpeter swan included northern Indiana.  In 1701 Governor Cadillac reported that swans in the Great Lakes region were as plentiful as &quot;lilies among the rushes.&quot;  That meant there were a lot of them.   There were still a few nesting around the Great Lakes in the 1880s.  By 1933 only 69 remained in the continental United States most in the Yellowstone area.

According to the US Fish &amp; Wildlife Service, a male trumpeter can reach up to 35 pounds in weight, stand over four feet high and have a wingspan of over seven feet.   The tundra swan remained and is more common but is smaller, reaching only 20 pounds and standing three feet high with a wing span of 6 to 7 feet.

This bird may have been the last of his kind in the region and avoided being shot for 20 or 30 years, which is their life span.   More likely, this &quot;goose&quot; was a mute swan.  These are the swans of big city parks and were imported from Europe in the late 19th century.  Some took up residence in the wild. Mute swans are only slightly smaller than the trumpeter but clearly within the size range of this &quot;giant goose.&quot;

Remember that in 1926, most of these people were no longer familiar with swans in the wild. Unless they knew of them from city parks they might be inclined to call them a goose.  Furthermore the reporter would probably call any big water bird a &quot;goose&quot; and a smaller one a &quot;duck&quot;.  We have a photograph from 1910 of a white pelican shot in our neighborhood on the Missouri River.  The hunters spread its wings and held it up in front of the local barber shop. The newspaper labeled it as a &quot;giant goose.&quot;

I wish we could see the picture of this particular bird.  It could be a pelican if not a swan.  It&#039;s not an unknown species.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The historic breeding range of the trumpeter swan included northern Indiana.  In 1701 Governor Cadillac reported that swans in the Great Lakes region were as plentiful as &#8220;lilies among the rushes.&#8221;  That meant there were a lot of them.   There were still a few nesting around the Great Lakes in the 1880s.  By 1933 only 69 remained in the continental United States most in the Yellowstone area.</p>
<p>According to the US Fish &#038; Wildlife Service, a male trumpeter can reach up to 35 pounds in weight, stand over four feet high and have a wingspan of over seven feet.   The tundra swan remained and is more common but is smaller, reaching only 20 pounds and standing three feet high with a wing span of 6 to 7 feet.</p>
<p>This bird may have been the last of his kind in the region and avoided being shot for 20 or 30 years, which is their life span.   More likely, this &#8220;goose&#8221; was a mute swan.  These are the swans of big city parks and were imported from Europe in the late 19th century.  Some took up residence in the wild. Mute swans are only slightly smaller than the trumpeter but clearly within the size range of this &#8220;giant goose.&#8221;</p>
<p>Remember that in 1926, most of these people were no longer familiar with swans in the wild. Unless they knew of them from city parks they might be inclined to call them a goose.  Furthermore the reporter would probably call any big water bird a &#8220;goose&#8221; and a smaller one a &#8220;duck&#8221;.  We have a photograph from 1910 of a white pelican shot in our neighborhood on the Missouri River.  The hunters spread its wings and held it up in front of the local barber shop. The newspaper labeled it as a &#8220;giant goose.&#8221;</p>
<p>I wish we could see the picture of this particular bird.  It could be a pelican if not a swan.  It&#8217;s not an unknown species.</p>
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		<title>By: dogu4</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 00:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We see gigantism occur in many species, our own included, as well as other abnormalities or rare morphs within populations. Considering that this incident reportedly encountered only one of these birds, perhaps a rare bird is almost an inevitablillty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We see gigantism occur in many species, our own included, as well as other abnormalities or rare morphs within populations. Considering that this incident reportedly encountered only one of these birds, perhaps a rare bird is almost an inevitablillty.</p>
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		<title>By: noobfun</title>
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		<dc:creator>noobfun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cowboys on jack rabbits and Native Americans on geese.

Certainly an odd postcard week.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cowboys on jack rabbits and Native Americans on geese.</p>
<p>Certainly an odd postcard week.</p>
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		<title>By: red_pill_junkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>red_pill_junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those mean hunters killed &lt;b&gt;Mother Goose&lt;/b&gt;! *Snif* :-(

I hope Humpty Dumpty kicked their butts afterwards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those mean hunters killed <b>Mother Goose</b>! *Snif* <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I hope Humpty Dumpty kicked their butts afterwards.</p>
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		<title>By: Saint Vitus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saint Vitus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m convinced this bird was a Trumpeter Swan. They are not usually found in Indiana but have been seen there. According to the Sibley Guide: length 60 inches, wingspan 80 inches, weight 23 pounds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m convinced this bird was a Trumpeter Swan. They are not usually found in Indiana but have been seen there. According to the Sibley Guide: length 60 inches, wingspan 80 inches, weight 23 pounds.</p>
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		<title>By: Porkchop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Porkchop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m certainly not going to disparage IN hunters, but could this have been a swan?  I don&#039;t know how common swans are in Indiana, so I reserve the right to be wrong.  It also says the bird was pure white, they would probably mention the swan&#039;s black bill.

The article also mentions shooting it with a rifle, rather than a shotgun (maybe that&#039;s being nitpicky) but who hunts water fowl with rifles? But id&#039;ing the man&#039;s gun as a rifle, gives me just enough doubt.

Then again, those were different times. Every state I&#039;ve lived in (Great Lakes) has had rules to plug your gun so you can only use three shells at a time, not the TEN that were used to bring this bird down.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m certainly not going to disparage IN hunters, but could this have been a swan?  I don&#8217;t know how common swans are in Indiana, so I reserve the right to be wrong.  It also says the bird was pure white, they would probably mention the swan&#8217;s black bill.</p>
<p>The article also mentions shooting it with a rifle, rather than a shotgun (maybe that&#8217;s being nitpicky) but who hunts water fowl with rifles? But id&#8217;ing the man&#8217;s gun as a rifle, gives me just enough doubt.</p>
<p>Then again, those were different times. Every state I&#8217;ve lived in (Great Lakes) has had rules to plug your gun so you can only use three shells at a time, not the TEN that were used to bring this bird down.</p>
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		<title>By: eireman</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OMG! That photo nearly made me spit out my morning Joe! That is the funniest thing I have seen in days. I think it&#039;s the proud, upward gaze toward destiny that really brings on home the absurdity of a man saddled atop a giant goose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG! That photo nearly made me spit out my morning Joe! That is the funniest thing I have seen in days. I think it&#8217;s the proud, upward gaze toward destiny that really brings on home the absurdity of a man saddled atop a giant goose.</p>
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