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	<title>Comments on: Stronsay Beast: 200 Year Update Promised</title>
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		<title>By: lightdragon</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/stronsay-200/comment-page-1/#comment-56989</link>
		<dc:creator>lightdragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to point this out, but simply finding out *what* the material composed the vertebrae would be enough to instantly determine if it was shark or not. Sharks are cartilaginous, which means there skeleton is composed for the most part of cartilage-including their vertebrae. So if the vertebrae were sampled and found to be cartilage, this means it could only have come from a cartilaginous fish-which means only a shark, ray, or chimera (smallish deep-water fish) could have left it. On the other hand, having calcified vertebrae would tell you it was not a shark. And given the size of the monster and it&#039;s location, a basking shark is probably the best information of the vertebrae was cartilaginous. 

 Additionally, the description of the skin screams shark to me-shark skin is covered in denticles which typically point towards toward the tale: pet a shark in the direction of the tail, and it&#039;s smooth. Pet it the other way, and it feels quite rough.

 So I think basking shark is the logical conclusion here (I know this is old, but felt obliged to point this out).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to point this out, but simply finding out *what* the material composed the vertebrae would be enough to instantly determine if it was shark or not. Sharks are cartilaginous, which means there skeleton is composed for the most part of cartilage-including their vertebrae. So if the vertebrae were sampled and found to be cartilage, this means it could only have come from a cartilaginous fish-which means only a shark, ray, or chimera (smallish deep-water fish) could have left it. On the other hand, having calcified vertebrae would tell you it was not a shark. And given the size of the monster and it&#8217;s location, a basking shark is probably the best information of the vertebrae was cartilaginous. </p>
<p> Additionally, the description of the skin screams shark to me-shark skin is covered in denticles which typically point towards toward the tale: pet a shark in the direction of the tail, and it&#8217;s smooth. Pet it the other way, and it feels quite rough.</p>
<p> So I think basking shark is the logical conclusion here (I know this is old, but felt obliged to point this out).</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Minnesota</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Minnesota</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 17:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps it was an Oarfish they found? The drawing instantly made me think of one. They are extremely long, they have a red &#039;mane&#039; along their back and they are not very well known because they only come to the surface when sick or dying. When sailors would see them come to the surface or they were found washed up on shore they could easily be called a sea serpent. Not everything in the description fits an Oarfish but perhaps that is what this mystery creature is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps it was an Oarfish they found? The drawing instantly made me think of one. They are extremely long, they have a red &#8216;mane&#8217; along their back and they are not very well known because they only come to the surface when sick or dying. When sailors would see them come to the surface or they were found washed up on shore they could easily be called a sea serpent. Not everything in the description fits an Oarfish but perhaps that is what this mystery creature is?</p>
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		<title>By: springheeledjack</title>
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		<dc:creator>springheeledjack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 02:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IT may well be a basking shark...however, there is a strong history of people seeing what they want to see and that includes the scientific community.  While we have one person saying it was indeed basking shark, I no more trust one perspective...it could just as easily have been a person looking at the vertebrae going into the lab thinking it was probably shark and finding it as shark.

My point?  That those who do not believe in the possibility of sea cryptids are more likely not to see sea cryptids even if they come across their lab table...human beings being basically lazy are more than willing to toss something into a known category rather than do extra work to find out what something is that may be new but similar to something else....I know I&#039;m stretching here, but in the early days of the 19th and 20th century there was not a lot of openmindedness for things like sea serpents and those who were open to the possibility were vastly out numbered.

Just as you can&#039;t always trust the believer, you have to take the same grain of salt with the professed non-believer...as some of our skoftics are so fond of pointing out---people try to rationalize things and make mistakes or misinterpret things...the same can be applied to scientists who enter into an investigation with a pre-conceived idea about the world around them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IT may well be a basking shark&#8230;however, there is a strong history of people seeing what they want to see and that includes the scientific community.  While we have one person saying it was indeed basking shark, I no more trust one perspective&#8230;it could just as easily have been a person looking at the vertebrae going into the lab thinking it was probably shark and finding it as shark.</p>
<p>My point?  That those who do not believe in the possibility of sea cryptids are more likely not to see sea cryptids even if they come across their lab table&#8230;human beings being basically lazy are more than willing to toss something into a known category rather than do extra work to find out what something is that may be new but similar to something else&#8230;.I know I&#8217;m stretching here, but in the early days of the 19th and 20th century there was not a lot of openmindedness for things like sea serpents and those who were open to the possibility were vastly out numbered.</p>
<p>Just as you can&#8217;t always trust the believer, you have to take the same grain of salt with the professed non-believer&#8230;as some of our skoftics are so fond of pointing out&#8212;people try to rationalize things and make mistakes or misinterpret things&#8230;the same can be applied to scientists who enter into an investigation with a pre-conceived idea about the world around them.</p>
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		<title>By: Alton Higgins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alton Higgins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 21:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today was the day...any updates?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today was the day&#8230;any updates?</p>
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		<title>By: busterggi</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/stronsay-200/comment-page-1/#comment-47192</link>
		<dc:creator>busterggi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard888 - maybe the photo above isn&#039;t very clear but I&#039;ve seen many other better ones.  They are definately shark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard888 &#8211; maybe the photo above isn&#8217;t very clear but I&#8217;ve seen many other better ones.  They are definately shark.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard888</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard888</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 03:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The vertebrae in the jar say shark.&quot;

I don&#039;t know how someone can be so sure that the vertebrae in the jar say shark. They are as clear as a blobsquatch. In fact, if anything, they don&#039;t look anything like the picture results from Googling &#039;vertebra basking shark&#039; under Images.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The vertebrae in the jar say shark.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how someone can be so sure that the vertebrae in the jar say shark. They are as clear as a blobsquatch. In fact, if anything, they don&#8217;t look anything like the picture results from Googling &#8216;vertebra basking shark&#8217; under Images.</p>
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		<title>By: korollocke</title>
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		<dc:creator>korollocke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just a old stinky shark, surprising how many of the wash up, but not other sharks....hmmm....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just a old stinky shark, surprising how many of the wash up, but not other sharks&#8230;.hmmm&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: wdsasquatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>wdsasquatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like Cadborosaurus to me.
Glowing fibers sound like something from the deep...
...something rarly seen.
Caddy! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like Cadborosaurus to me.<br />
Glowing fibers sound like something from the deep&#8230;<br />
&#8230;something rarly seen.<br />
Caddy! <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: DavidFullam</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidFullam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting, but I agree with Basking Shark. Decomposition and the elements can do strange things to a body, but the vertebrae doesn&#039;t seem to lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, but I agree with Basking Shark. Decomposition and the elements can do strange things to a body, but the vertebrae doesn&#8217;t seem to lie.</p>
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		<title>By: cliffhanger042002</title>
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		<dc:creator>cliffhanger042002</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol busterggi, points in that direction, but I wonder what evidence leads this other doc to believe otherwise if she examined and ran DNA (or whatever) tests on the vertebrae? I read an article about the luminescent bacteria that showed a great pic of a decomposing basking shark, posed some good arguments. I just have to wonder at what point someone decided to draw in the little doggy head on their illustration? LOL. If it did indeed have such a head why wouldn&#039;t that be in a jar as well? I guess one could argue that the head had become detatched from the rest of the carcass and washed away, thus for the need for the anatomical extrapolation in the illustration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol busterggi, points in that direction, but I wonder what evidence leads this other doc to believe otherwise if she examined and ran DNA (or whatever) tests on the vertebrae? I read an article about the luminescent bacteria that showed a great pic of a decomposing basking shark, posed some good arguments. I just have to wonder at what point someone decided to draw in the little doggy head on their illustration? LOL. If it did indeed have such a head why wouldn&#8217;t that be in a jar as well? I guess one could argue that the head had become detatched from the rest of the carcass and washed away, thus for the need for the anatomical extrapolation in the illustration.</p>
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