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		<title>By: wooddevil</title>
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		<dc:creator>wooddevil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 15:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bigfoot has been seen in connection with poltergeist activity, which is one of many things that prove that is something beyond just an animal. For example, I read an incident in which a bigfoot researcher begin experiencing poltergeist activity not too long after he started his bigfoot research.

What people don&#039;t understand is that both bigfoot and poltergeists originate from the same source.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bigfoot has been seen in connection with poltergeist activity, which is one of many things that prove that is something beyond just an animal. For example, I read an incident in which a bigfoot researcher begin experiencing poltergeist activity not too long after he started his bigfoot research.</p>
<p>What people don&#8217;t understand is that both bigfoot and poltergeists originate from the same source.</p>
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		<title>By: stranger</title>
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		<dc:creator>stranger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 01:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FYI - A quick web pass indicates that Leavenworth is located in Crawford County, Indiana. Population appears to have been relatively low and stable. The county has plenty of hills and is mostly forested, so good Bigfoot habitat. I found a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.indiana.edu/~libgeol/cox1870/1870brief.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reference&lt;/a&gt; to a Mr. Benson producing salt from brine wells in 1870.

Haven&#039;t pinned down a location, but should be in western or southern Crawford County. If the house still exists, this is just west of Louisville, Kentucky. Any thoughts?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI &#8211; A quick web pass indicates that Leavenworth is located in Crawford County, Indiana. Population appears to have been relatively low and stable. The county has plenty of hills and is mostly forested, so good Bigfoot habitat. I found a <a href="http://www.indiana.edu/~libgeol/cox1870/1870brief.html" rel="nofollow">reference</a> to a Mr. Benson producing salt from brine wells in 1870.</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t pinned down a location, but should be in western or southern Crawford County. If the house still exists, this is just west of Louisville, Kentucky. Any thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: korollocke</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The rock apes in Nam used to throw rocks at us, thats why we were very careful with grenades, they would through them back!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rock apes in Nam used to throw rocks at us, thats why we were very careful with grenades, they would through them back!</p>
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		<title>By: stranger</title>
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		<dc:creator>stranger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 22:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you would have to go on a case by case basis. The 19th century reports are always great to read, but present real drawbacks.

Problem 1 - There could easily be someone pulling the readers leg. Apparently, this is what &quot;journalists&quot; did before Britney Spears, O.J., and Brangelina. We would have to verify the integrity of the writer and newspaper.

Problem 2 - Hoax? If the writer has no firsthand knowledge, we have to question the character and motives of the witnesses.

Problem 3 - Insufficient information in the story. We are sorely lacking details of the topography and vegetation at the site. Obviously, Bigfoot needs serious cover in daylight if he is a primate or other flesh and blood entity, no matter how quick. We are also missing sufficient knowledge of the structure and its blind spots. One wall without windows really makes a difference. Logically, if the house still exists with any of its original damaged siding and can be related to its 1870 site, modern methods could tell us a lot about any projectiles. If Bigfoot can wing a 4 pound rock 200 yards, Major League Baseball may want to underwrite the investigation.

Problem 4 - Outside of the above, there is no suggestive information for or against either explanation. Would anything bar a poltergeist or spirit from entering the house or otherwise escalating besides idiosyncrasy? Unknown. No mention of cries, smells, or tracks that would prefer a Bigfoot hypothesis. We are simply left in the dark.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you would have to go on a case by case basis. The 19th century reports are always great to read, but present real drawbacks.</p>
<p>Problem 1 &#8211; There could easily be someone pulling the readers leg. Apparently, this is what &#8220;journalists&#8221; did before Britney Spears, O.J., and Brangelina. We would have to verify the integrity of the writer and newspaper.</p>
<p>Problem 2 &#8211; Hoax? If the writer has no firsthand knowledge, we have to question the character and motives of the witnesses.</p>
<p>Problem 3 &#8211; Insufficient information in the story. We are sorely lacking details of the topography and vegetation at the site. Obviously, Bigfoot needs serious cover in daylight if he is a primate or other flesh and blood entity, no matter how quick. We are also missing sufficient knowledge of the structure and its blind spots. One wall without windows really makes a difference. Logically, if the house still exists with any of its original damaged siding and can be related to its 1870 site, modern methods could tell us a lot about any projectiles. If Bigfoot can wing a 4 pound rock 200 yards, Major League Baseball may want to underwrite the investigation.</p>
<p>Problem 4 &#8211; Outside of the above, there is no suggestive information for or against either explanation. Would anything bar a poltergeist or spirit from entering the house or otherwise escalating besides idiosyncrasy? Unknown. No mention of cries, smells, or tracks that would prefer a Bigfoot hypothesis. We are simply left in the dark.</p>
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		<title>By: cryptidsrus</title>
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		<dc:creator>cryptidsrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 21:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would have to disagree with Larry on his comment that &quot;poltergeist&quot; should not be investigated. Maybe not NOW, but who&#039;s to say in the future ways will not be found to investigate these paranormal incidents properly? And who&#039;s to say &quot;paranormal&quot; stuff is actually a normal part of the universe?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have to disagree with Larry on his comment that &#8220;poltergeist&#8221; should not be investigated. Maybe not NOW, but who&#8217;s to say in the future ways will not be found to investigate these paranormal incidents properly? And who&#8217;s to say &#8220;paranormal&#8221; stuff is actually a normal part of the universe?</p>
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		<title>By: DWA</title>
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		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 17:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The angle I&#039;d take on this is most relevant to the first three posts, so I&#039;m focusing on them.  The others seemed variations on the theme or ...oh shoot, you know how this works.  First three.  Here we go.

First:  alandp.  I wouldn&#039;t focus on both equally because of no proof.  I would go with the alternative that (1) seems most plausible, from what we know about physics and nature in general; and for which (2) there is a lot of evidence pointing to a consistently-described physical entity.  That&#039;s the cryptid angle.

Second:  hatch.  Unfortunately there is NO proof, unless one counts the personal proof of witnesses.  If I were a witness, I&#039;d have my proof.  But that hasn&#039;t been enough to move to the cultural proof, i.e., universal acceptance of the phenomenon as real.  Both of these phenomena remain hallucinatory until we get the latter.

Third:  Larry.  Gotta go with Larry on this.  The sasquatch angle can be and is being investigated using protocols common to those that wildlife biologists use for known species.  People with considerable command of the evidence are in general agreement that this is the way to go.

I&#039;d go that way, until something compelling and tangible - OK, maybe a lot of such somethings - dictates otherwise.

I won&#039;t go so far as saying the poltergeist angle is a waste of time.  Someone may know something I don&#039;t.  But I would have to hear what that is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The angle I&#8217;d take on this is most relevant to the first three posts, so I&#8217;m focusing on them.  The others seemed variations on the theme or &#8230;oh shoot, you know how this works.  First three.  Here we go.</p>
<p>First:  alandp.  I wouldn&#8217;t focus on both equally because of no proof.  I would go with the alternative that (1) seems most plausible, from what we know about physics and nature in general; and for which (2) there is a lot of evidence pointing to a consistently-described physical entity.  That&#8217;s the cryptid angle.</p>
<p>Second:  hatch.  Unfortunately there is NO proof, unless one counts the personal proof of witnesses.  If I were a witness, I&#8217;d have my proof.  But that hasn&#8217;t been enough to move to the cultural proof, i.e., universal acceptance of the phenomenon as real.  Both of these phenomena remain hallucinatory until we get the latter.</p>
<p>Third:  Larry.  Gotta go with Larry on this.  The sasquatch angle can be and is being investigated using protocols common to those that wildlife biologists use for known species.  People with considerable command of the evidence are in general agreement that this is the way to go.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d go that way, until something compelling and tangible &#8211; OK, maybe a lot of such somethings &#8211; dictates otherwise.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t go so far as saying the poltergeist angle is a waste of time.  Someone may know something I don&#8217;t.  But I would have to hear what that is.</p>
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		<title>By: sschaper</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 03:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The report does sound like primate behavior, and consistent with other Bigfoot reports.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The report does sound like primate behavior, and consistent with other Bigfoot reports.</p>
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		<title>By: Ferret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ferret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cool article! I feel that the idea of Bigfoot being the cause of this event is unlikely. The reason being is that (as far as we know) if Bigfoot exists it is likely to be a &quot;normal&quot; zoological creature, whereas &quot;normal&quot; represents the theories and ideas regarding biology, chemistry, and physics that are commonly held as truth. So if these stones were being thrown by a 6/7 foot tall animal it seems unlikely it could knock on the door and then immediately be gone. And as that &quot;...no cause for the knocking could be discovered...&quot; it seems that the idea that an object was thrown is impossible. Therefore we must assume that is the event really took place, someone or something, physically knocked on the door, unless of course our ideas about how sound works are wrong and this is some sort of &quot;quantum knock&quot;. Now with that said this event alone cannot rule out Bigfoot&#039;s involvement because there is no reason (only a natural tendency) to assume that the cause of the knocking is the same as the cause for the stone throwing. It is conceivable that Bigfoot (or perhaps more likely, several Bigfoots due to the quantity and rapid nature of the rocks that were thrown after the final guard was called in) is throwing rocks and something else is responsible for the knocking…spirits, ghosts, PK, or some sort of ordinary cause that is being mistaken for something paranormal due to the rock throwing, we really can’t be sure. So in short, I’ve got no idea what the cause of this event is, but it’s a really cool article!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool article! I feel that the idea of Bigfoot being the cause of this event is unlikely. The reason being is that (as far as we know) if Bigfoot exists it is likely to be a &#8220;normal&#8221; zoological creature, whereas &#8220;normal&#8221; represents the theories and ideas regarding biology, chemistry, and physics that are commonly held as truth. So if these stones were being thrown by a 6/7 foot tall animal it seems unlikely it could knock on the door and then immediately be gone. And as that &#8220;&#8230;no cause for the knocking could be discovered&#8230;&#8221; it seems that the idea that an object was thrown is impossible. Therefore we must assume that is the event really took place, someone or something, physically knocked on the door, unless of course our ideas about how sound works are wrong and this is some sort of &#8220;quantum knock&#8221;. Now with that said this event alone cannot rule out Bigfoot&#8217;s involvement because there is no reason (only a natural tendency) to assume that the cause of the knocking is the same as the cause for the stone throwing. It is conceivable that Bigfoot (or perhaps more likely, several Bigfoots due to the quantity and rapid nature of the rocks that were thrown after the final guard was called in) is throwing rocks and something else is responsible for the knocking…spirits, ghosts, PK, or some sort of ordinary cause that is being mistaken for something paranormal due to the rock throwing, we really can’t be sure. So in short, I’ve got no idea what the cause of this event is, but it’s a really cool article!</p>
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		<title>By: HOOSIERHUNTER</title>
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		<dc:creator>HOOSIERHUNTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Goodfoot: Actually no. Poltergeists can operate anywhere, they are just more likely in a house or similar enviroment. The story cited above is very much in keeping with traditional poltergeist activity. 
I do some paranormal investigating and am finishing up a book in which one of the chapters covers the subject of hauntings (along with cryptid animals, odd coincidences, and UFO reports around Indiana), so I have studied the phenomena rather extensively. 

I agree that we need to seperate out the paranormal from the unknown normal (can I call it cryptonormal? :) but that becomes difficult when we have so many cryptid reports that have paranormal overtones! In many cryptid cases, the two fuse together into a hopeless mess that defies scientific investigation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goodfoot: Actually no. Poltergeists can operate anywhere, they are just more likely in a house or similar enviroment. The story cited above is very much in keeping with traditional poltergeist activity.<br />
I do some paranormal investigating and am finishing up a book in which one of the chapters covers the subject of hauntings (along with cryptid animals, odd coincidences, and UFO reports around Indiana), so I have studied the phenomena rather extensively. </p>
<p>I agree that we need to seperate out the paranormal from the unknown normal (can I call it cryptonormal? <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  but that becomes difficult when we have so many cryptid reports that have paranormal overtones! In many cryptid cases, the two fuse together into a hopeless mess that defies scientific investigation.</p>
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		<title>By: proriter</title>
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		<dc:creator>proriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Poltergeists who live in glass houses shouldn&#039;t throw stones.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poltergeists who live in glass houses shouldn&#8217;t throw stones.</p>
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