Comments on: Ropen Expedition Update

By: Roddy Hays

Roddy Hays — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 23:15:21 +0000

Hmmmm, interesting. I find it challenging to think how these creatures, whether they be pterosaurs or a new species, have evaded science for so long. Are we looking at a real animal or a Fortean species But then again, most here would seriously believe that Sasquatch and his ilk survive and live, and there is little trace of them.

That being the case, how about a quantum leap into the imagination? Suppose the Ropen and their ilk, in turn, really do exist, either as a new species or as a descendant of a bygone era. Suppose that over the centuries their range has reduced, as happens with so many species, and that their stronghold now is the caves and mountains of PNG, and that the Australian and US sightings are migrants, born astray by wind, such as happens to many species of birds.

As humans, we may not see as much of them as we should wish, simply because they seem to be a nocturnal species - this would explain the scarcity of sightings, especially if they typically occur in the mountains of PNG. When they do pass us by in more civilized surroundings, they disappear without trace, much like Sasquatch, their senses and skills honed to a fine edge by centuries of intrigue.

How could they have survived for so long? There may be many reasons, their ability to fly away from danger and change, their seeming affinity with caves (fine places to ride out climate change, asteroid impacts and nuclear winters, and also to hibernate in should they be in the mood), their liking for carrion (a good way to survive when all else is dying around you) and a metabolism, which possibly, could be of a mega-reptilian nature - an ability to withstand a lack of food for a very long time. I think the Ropen might be a real species, the last of their kind, and they live in a different time-frame from us, reduced to a tiny stronghold in a very remote area. I think the key to their survival, above all else, is longevity. If a crocodile can live over 100 years, how long can a Ropen live? 200 years? Maybe more?

Give your imagination rein, and now think that maybe, centuries ago, these creatures were slightly more abundant than they are now, and with their bio-luminescent mouths and penchant for dwelling in caves, they became the basis for the myth of the dragon. 30 to 50 foot wingspan? Standing upright? Devouring human flesh? Mouths aflame? Typically found in mountainous regions? What other species of animal, alive or dead, has ever come closer than the elusive Ropen to fitting the bill?

Indeed, could some of the many thousands of unexplained radar contacts over the years be attributed to Ropen? If a radar can pick out a single seabird, I suspect a Ropen would present a definitive target, but one which easily eludes factual detection when pursued by humans. Particularly at night.

Just a thought, anyway. Imagination’s a fine thing.

By: juliebird

juliebird — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 04:45:56 +0000

An averaged person-sized bat with teeth? I wish it could be so; but not likely. Who says an average person is six feet tall anyway?

By: Scott C.

Scott C. — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 22:39:32 +0000

Oh man, I’m pumped! This could be it!

What they should NOT do, though, is camp out for a week at one site that looks feasible to them. I say, do whatever needs to be done to get a local to secure a sighting. I’d bet anything (were I betting man) that there are locals who could guarantee a sighting, the team just has to make that happen.

By: graybear

graybear — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:25:40 +0000

CalebKitson, “And I have never heard of a bat with a long snout full of teeth.”
Neither have I, nor have I ever heard of a bat six feet tall. So what? Bats have evolved to take advantage of every food source from fruits to insects to fish to pure blood. The shape of a bat’s mouth and teeth is a direct result of its eating habits (see Darwin’s finches). A bat the size of these reported ropen would be forced by its energy requirements to eat large amounts of whatever it eats. This could easily result in bats with a snout and teeth. To me it simply makes more sense to look at a contemporary animal which resembles the ropen i.e. large bats, and theorize in a local adaptation which could result in the reported animals than to theorize that a true pterosaur has been hiding out and missing from the fossil record for 65 million years, without ever having spread from its very limited range and become known worldwide as an existing animal. The continents were still mostly joined when the pterosaurs last lived. If the pterosaurs survived, there should be evidence of them on every continent and in the fossil record. And there isn’t.
This is not to say that I wouldn’t be tickled pink if the expedition came back with a recognizable pterosaur descendant. Party at my house if that happens! I just think that bats are a better hypothesis.

By: cryptidsrus

cryptidsrus — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:39:53 +0000

I too am optimistic about this expedition. Like I said before, even if they come up empty-handed, I still love the show! Press on forward, Garth!

By: Andrew Minnesota

Andrew Minnesota — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 16:16:16 +0000

It sounds like they will have some good interviews now let’s hope for some footage of these things! *crosses fingers*

By: CalebKitson

CalebKitson — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:56:56 +0000

This is great news! I hope they can get some hard evidence!

And I have never heard of a bat with a long beak full of teeth…

By: graybear

graybear — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:22:53 +0000

It’s very interesting to hear more on the Ropen expedition, giant flying things are one of my enthusiasms. I’ll be looking forward to hearing more, especially if any of the Ropen eaters are ever interviewed.
I still think that most if not all of the contemporary pterosaur sightings (when not simple misidentifications) are actually giant bats. It would be great to find out for sure.