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		<title>By: Bob K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been privileged to see river otters swim in a line, but the line soon breaks up as the critters go their separate ways to find food, roam, and play.  Anyway, it&#039;s apparent that this &quot;otter line dance&quot; is made up of separate creatures. I would think that you could tell the difference between one large creature moving around and several smaller ones if the sighting takes any length of time at all-and if the sighting is too brief and the details too indistinct, then it simply has no value since no real information can be gleaned from the event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been privileged to see river otters swim in a line, but the line soon breaks up as the critters go their separate ways to find food, roam, and play.  Anyway, it&#8217;s apparent that this &#8220;otter line dance&#8221; is made up of separate creatures. I would think that you could tell the difference between one large creature moving around and several smaller ones if the sighting takes any length of time at all-and if the sighting is too brief and the details too indistinct, then it simply has no value since no real information can be gleaned from the event.</p>
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		<title>By: sschaper</title>
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		<dc:creator>sschaper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can certainly see why skeptics would point to otters in line, based upon that picture!

Of course, there are plenty of other &#039;usual suspects&#039;, and the recent film doesn&#039;t resemble this at all, though -one- otter or beaver, it could be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can certainly see why skeptics would point to otters in line, based upon that picture!</p>
<p>Of course, there are plenty of other &#8216;usual suspects&#8217;, and the recent film doesn&#8217;t resemble this at all, though -one- otter or beaver, it could be.</p>
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		<title>By: mystery_man</title>
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		<dc:creator>mystery_man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 09:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MattBille- Your experiment idea is a good one. I&#039;d be curious to see what results would come up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MattBille- Your experiment idea is a good one. I&#8217;d be curious to see what results would come up.</p>
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		<title>By: mystery_man</title>
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		<dc:creator>mystery_man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 09:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel Loxton, Lyndon- Thanks for the info regarding the experiment of witness expectations. I believe the one that Danial Loxton mentioned is the one I am thinking about. Any other interesting experiments done in the Loch along these lines?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel Loxton, Lyndon- Thanks for the info regarding the experiment of witness expectations. I believe the one that Danial Loxton mentioned is the one I am thinking about. Any other interesting experiments done in the Loch along these lines?</p>
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		<title>By: Lyndon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyndon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 06:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&quot;There have probably been other experiments along these lines, but you’re probably thinking of the 2003 BBC fence post experiment. A post was raised from the water in front of a busload of unsuspecting tourists,&quot;&quot;

No Daniel I&#039;m pretty sure he was thinking of the &lt;a title=&quot;animatronic Nessie&quot; href=&quot;http://www.usatoday.com/news/offbeat/2005-08-18-loch-ness_x.htm?csp=34&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;animatronic Nessie&lt;/a&gt; that was part of a Channel 5 programme and not the fence post one.

This was 2005. A 16ft fake Nessie was paraded at various places around the loch and even in front of a boatload of tourists:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;There have probably been other experiments along these lines, but you’re probably thinking of the 2003 BBC fence post experiment. A post was raised from the water in front of a busload of unsuspecting tourists,&#8221;"</p>
<p>No Daniel I&#8217;m pretty sure he was thinking of the <a title="animatronic Nessie" href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/offbeat/2005-08-18-loch-ness_x.htm?csp=34" rel="nofollow">animatronic Nessie</a> that was part of a Channel 5 programme and not the fence post one.</p>
<p>This was 2005. A 16ft fake Nessie was paraded at various places around the loch and even in front of a boatload of tourists:</p>
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		<title>By: Carol Maltby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol Maltby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 01:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Swimming in a line would probably produce a slipstream effect, which could make the going easier for younger otters. I wonder what differences would be evident from looking at the turbulence created by multiple animals, as opposed to that of a single larger animal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Swimming in a line would probably produce a slipstream effect, which could make the going easier for younger otters. I wonder what differences would be evident from looking at the turbulence created by multiple animals, as opposed to that of a single larger animal?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Loxton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Loxton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 00:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mystery_man writes:

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;I seem to remember reading somewhere about a little experiment that was pulled by which a tour boat full of Nessie seekers were out on the water and the experimenters pulled a large log out across the water.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There have probably been other experiments along these lines, but you&#039;re probably thinking of the 2003 BBC fence post experiment. A post was raised from the water in front of a busload of unsuspecting tourists, who were then asked to sketch what they&#039;d witnessed. As we&#039;d expect from the daylight viewing conditions and terribly crude &quot;monster&quot; (again, just a regular square fence post), many of the witnesses did pretty well. However, as we&#039;d expect from the known history of misidentification errors which plague lake monster cases, other fence post witnesses recalled seeing a round &quot;neck&quot; complete with head.

This confirms what we already know: given expectations primed by a lake monster legend, a significant subset of viewers will &quot;see&quot; ambiguous, relatively un-monster-like phenomena as lake monsters, even when viewing conditions are good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mystery_man writes:</p>
<blockquote cite=""><p>I seem to remember reading somewhere about a little experiment that was pulled by which a tour boat full of Nessie seekers were out on the water and the experimenters pulled a large log out across the water.</p></blockquote>
<p>There have probably been other experiments along these lines, but you&#8217;re probably thinking of the 2003 BBC fence post experiment. A post was raised from the water in front of a busload of unsuspecting tourists, who were then asked to sketch what they&#8217;d witnessed. As we&#8217;d expect from the daylight viewing conditions and terribly crude &#8220;monster&#8221; (again, just a regular square fence post), many of the witnesses did pretty well. However, as we&#8217;d expect from the known history of misidentification errors which plague lake monster cases, other fence post witnesses recalled seeing a round &#8220;neck&#8221; complete with head.</p>
<p>This confirms what we already know: given expectations primed by a lake monster legend, a significant subset of viewers will &#8220;see&#8221; ambiguous, relatively un-monster-like phenomena as lake monsters, even when viewing conditions are good.</p>
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		<title>By: MattBille</title>
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		<dc:creator>MattBille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 21:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be an interesting experiment to take a bunch of volunteers (you&#039;d pay their expenses - college students are always willign to do soemthing  interesting on the cheap) and take them to a lake with no interesting monster sightings.  You tell them there has been a spate of recent sightings, and see what reports, photos, etc. they turned in after a week of observation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be an interesting experiment to take a bunch of volunteers (you&#8217;d pay their expenses &#8211; college students are always willign to do soemthing  interesting on the cheap) and take them to a lake with no interesting monster sightings.  You tell them there has been a spate of recent sightings, and see what reports, photos, etc. they turned in after a week of observation.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyndon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyndon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 18:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mystery man,

I believe it was a Loch Ness monster replica which fooled the tourists and I think the tour boat captain was in on it too. It was all part of an experiment designed to test people&#039;s reactions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mystery man,</p>
<p>I believe it was a Loch Ness monster replica which fooled the tourists and I think the tour boat captain was in on it too. It was all part of an experiment designed to test people&#8217;s reactions.</p>
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		<title>By: mystery_man</title>
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		<dc:creator>mystery_man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 16:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DWA- A lot of this Lake Monster stuff I&#039;ve only recently been looking into, so I don&#039;t claim to know a whole lot about it either.  Some of my hypothesis could be off base and I may get some sightings facts wrong, but I sure do love to discuss this stuff regardless. More of a Bigfoot guy myself, though. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DWA- A lot of this Lake Monster stuff I&#8217;ve only recently been looking into, so I don&#8217;t claim to know a whole lot about it either.  Some of my hypothesis could be off base and I may get some sightings facts wrong, but I sure do love to discuss this stuff regardless. More of a Bigfoot guy myself, though. <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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