Ray Wallace could not hoax anything even if you felt sorry for the guy. I met him, talked with him, saw his casts and now the family wants to make a $movie$ about his life so they trump up the Bigfoot aspect of it. No? What else is the guy known for then? Who wants to sit and watch a documentary or docudrama of some construction worker? Lets talk about motive now.

A liar is a liar and can’t be believed about anything. You can’t pick and chose what you want to believe. He has no credibility even as a hoaxer.

Look at his fake casts, the ones he sold and you should start asking yourself how come if he made tracks and wooden feet as good as the ones that look like Titmus’s, does his later stuff seem so crude and Xerox like but for different sizes. So exact in shape that I question whether or not he had one of those toy machines that were popular back then that could trace a shape and duplicate it or change its scale… making it larger or smaller. Wallace was around Titmus and undoubtedly saw the original cast… maybe tracing it on a piece of paper even.

I met him in 1975… his wife didn’t want me to talk with him but I did anyway… he was an unsophisticated huckster then… now he is dead and people want to make more out of him then he was.

I have copies of all the casts being mentioned here and sorry Loren, Ray’s wooden feet do not match the Titmus one. That is why I put together that picture your sporting above.

Ray should be remembered not as anything big here… but more as a footnote I’d think.

Some news sources have seemed as if they were saying that Wallace created all the Bigfoot tracks throughout the Pacific Northwest. Neither skeptics nor investigators consider those as valid statements, but that’s a few reporters for you.

No, Ben, you were on another list, and not the one including the unnamed.

No, most of us that are interested in looking at the Wallace fakes in the record and consider Bigfoot a reality do *not* think Wallace made the track that Jerry Crew cast and took to the newspaper office. In other words, the Crew cast is not a Wallace fake, probably.

Not all experiments in using fakes in experiments to see if they look like real tracks or to reproduce strides are discussed, written about, and certainly not published, often, Matt. Such actions in the 1960s were seen as “fakery” not “testing.” But I would bet that there has been and is a lot more testing occurring than you know about. For example, in 1960 and 1961, I was leaving footprints in snow and measuring snow melt rates, to see how it would change stride, configuration, and size. Did I ever write up those or later decades of testing I’ve done? No, not really. Opinions usually come from field experiments, experiences, and scholarly pursuits, Matt. Please, no rush to judgements before you survey the field a little more broadly.

I’ve put off testing this possibility because I’m not much of a woodworker, but this re-awakening of the Wallace controversy may spur me to actually do it.

There is far too little testing and far too much opining in the world of Bigfootery.

Actually, I’ve read quite a few articles ascribing ALL tracks to Wallace. Maybe you’ve never said it, but it’s been said, and written, repeatedly.

(I wonder if I’m the Internet stalker or the Sasquatch psychic…)

But granted, “hoax” may be the too difficult for some Bigfooters to swallow. Take your pick. Hoax = cock-and-bull story, crock, deceit, deception, diddling, fabrication, fake, falsification, fast one, fib, fraud, gimmick, hooey, humbug, hustle, imposture, joke, lie, practical joke, prank, put-on, ruse, scam, snow job, spoof, or whopper. All are given as words that may be used in the place of “hoax.” Green was trying to sell papers, so it was done with a financial motive underlying it, and thus other words could be used, but I choose not to go there.

The point is, John Green’s innocent “newspaper hoax” was an exception in his life. Ray Wallace’s life was one prank, hoax, and illusion after another, often with fiscal, publicity, and unknown motives in the background. Green’s characterization of Wallace as merely a prankster is too subtle for what Wallace’s personality appears to demonstrate, and Wallace’s active placement of tracks must be considered seriously (not just tossed aside).

The proof that Wallace laid down fake tracks is throughout the Bigfoot books. But placing those in contrast to the good tracks actually supports the case for a real animal even more so.