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		<title>By: EelKat</title>
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		<dc:creator>EelKat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess that makes me a descendant of an Orangutan than. sheesh

Unfortunately, this is NOT the first time I have heard this theory, and I almost question if I may personally know the person who sent you that email!

My grandfather (who died at age 100 years old about 10 years ago) used to say this, along with countless other similar racial things. His first wife, my grandmother, was a Kickapoo Indian. She also had Autism, so didn&#039;t always respond to things in a normal way. Before they divorced, they had 12 children. After they divorced, the family was split in half, with some of the children going to Utah with their father and others staying in Maine with their mother.

Today, more than 50 years later and with both parents dead, the family still remains firmly divided, and I&#039;ll tell you why.

The children that stayed with their mother, though she was strange and Autistic, were raised, more or less normally and became more or less, you average ordinary adults. My mother was among the children raise by my grandmother.

Throughout my childhood I heard &quot;rumors&quot; about my grandfather, and my uncles that were raised by him, but I had never the chance to meet them, so I had no idea, just how utterly insane these men really were, until I was 14 years old, and all 264 children, grandchildren, and great grand children (taking into account there was 2 polygamists in the group) showed up at my beach-front home for an unannounced &quot;family reunion&quot;.

Like I said, I had heard rumors about my grandfather and the now adult sons he had raised, but even with that there was nothing that could have prepaid me for actually meeting these otherworldly outlandish men and there poor submissive terrified wives and children.

My first introduction to my grandfather was to hear him tell that exact same story as you got in your email. Only difference was, he was telling it as an explanation to why his former first wife, my Autistic Native American Grandmother, acted the way she did! He than went on to say that the children that had stayed with him, where the ones that were more Human like him, and that the ones that stayed with her, had stayed with her because they were &quot;stupid apes&quot; like she was. 

It got worse. I myself have Autism and I respond to things not too unsimilar to the way my grandmother did. His story continued, to tell that the grandchildren (with myself being his &quot;prime example&quot;) where demons and to be shunned by the &quot;more superior&quot; members of the family!

But than, it got even better when he continued on, saying that God himself had come to earth and talked to him, and told him this information. He continued on, saying that God than sent and angel to take my grandfather on &quot;a trip to Hell&quot;, where he was allowed to see my grandmother, &quot;her&quot; children (as opposed to &quot;his&quot; children), and &quot;her&quot; grandchildren (as opposed to &quot;his&quot; grandchildren) all being torment for time and eternity in hell, because we were all cast into a lake of fire and were demons.

He farther claimed that it was after God &quot;revealed&quot; all this too him, that that was the reason why he divorced my grandmother all those years ago, because God was going to punish him for his abomination if he did not get rid of her and marry some one else.

Oh my gosh!

I couldn&#039;t believe what I was hearing. I was even more stunned, however, by the unending harsh, cruel words and accusations my uncles started spouting out at the rest of us, because they were acting on their father&#039;s words, and treated every word he said as though it had just come straight from the mouth of Jesus himself! One uncle was abusive and violent and saw nothing wrong with beaten any of the rest of us, because we were &quot;inferior animals anyways&quot;. They stayed camped out on our land like a band of gypsies, in trailers and tents, and campers for the entire summer, saying that we had no choice but to let them stay because they were &quot;superior&quot; and we &quot;had no right to make them leave&quot;!

My grandfather spent most of the summer writing letters to church leaders, telling them of the various &quot;revelations&quot; that God was coming down and giving him on an almost daily basis. Much of the complaint letters he sent out to these church leaders, were racial and complained that the church should not be allowing &quot;demon possessed races&quot; in their congregations. His list of &quot;demon possessed races&quot; included Native Americans, Mexicans, Chinese, &quot;Blacks&quot;, &quot;Japs&quot;, &quot;Jews&quot;, and &quot;Savages&quot;.

All I can say it was one hell of an eye-opening summer! By the end of that summer I was thourally convinced that my grandfather was a raving lunatic and that he had brainwashed his sons into acting just like him. Needless to say, I have in the years since avoided contact with these wild, religion crazed, ignorant, and verbally and physically abusive relatives of mine, and am almost ashamed to have to admit that I have any relation to them at all. :(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess that makes me a descendant of an Orangutan than. sheesh</p>
<p>Unfortunately, this is NOT the first time I have heard this theory, and I almost question if I may personally know the person who sent you that email!</p>
<p>My grandfather (who died at age 100 years old about 10 years ago) used to say this, along with countless other similar racial things. His first wife, my grandmother, was a Kickapoo Indian. She also had Autism, so didn&#8217;t always respond to things in a normal way. Before they divorced, they had 12 children. After they divorced, the family was split in half, with some of the children going to Utah with their father and others staying in Maine with their mother.</p>
<p>Today, more than 50 years later and with both parents dead, the family still remains firmly divided, and I&#8217;ll tell you why.</p>
<p>The children that stayed with their mother, though she was strange and Autistic, were raised, more or less normally and became more or less, you average ordinary adults. My mother was among the children raise by my grandmother.</p>
<p>Throughout my childhood I heard &#8220;rumors&#8221; about my grandfather, and my uncles that were raised by him, but I had never the chance to meet them, so I had no idea, just how utterly insane these men really were, until I was 14 years old, and all 264 children, grandchildren, and great grand children (taking into account there was 2 polygamists in the group) showed up at my beach-front home for an unannounced &#8220;family reunion&#8221;.</p>
<p>Like I said, I had heard rumors about my grandfather and the now adult sons he had raised, but even with that there was nothing that could have prepaid me for actually meeting these otherworldly outlandish men and there poor submissive terrified wives and children.</p>
<p>My first introduction to my grandfather was to hear him tell that exact same story as you got in your email. Only difference was, he was telling it as an explanation to why his former first wife, my Autistic Native American Grandmother, acted the way she did! He than went on to say that the children that had stayed with him, where the ones that were more Human like him, and that the ones that stayed with her, had stayed with her because they were &#8220;stupid apes&#8221; like she was. </p>
<p>It got worse. I myself have Autism and I respond to things not too unsimilar to the way my grandmother did. His story continued, to tell that the grandchildren (with myself being his &#8220;prime example&#8221;) where demons and to be shunned by the &#8220;more superior&#8221; members of the family!</p>
<p>But than, it got even better when he continued on, saying that God himself had come to earth and talked to him, and told him this information. He continued on, saying that God than sent and angel to take my grandfather on &#8220;a trip to Hell&#8221;, where he was allowed to see my grandmother, &#8220;her&#8221; children (as opposed to &#8220;his&#8221; children), and &#8220;her&#8221; grandchildren (as opposed to &#8220;his&#8221; grandchildren) all being torment for time and eternity in hell, because we were all cast into a lake of fire and were demons.</p>
<p>He farther claimed that it was after God &#8220;revealed&#8221; all this too him, that that was the reason why he divorced my grandmother all those years ago, because God was going to punish him for his abomination if he did not get rid of her and marry some one else.</p>
<p>Oh my gosh!</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t believe what I was hearing. I was even more stunned, however, by the unending harsh, cruel words and accusations my uncles started spouting out at the rest of us, because they were acting on their father&#8217;s words, and treated every word he said as though it had just come straight from the mouth of Jesus himself! One uncle was abusive and violent and saw nothing wrong with beaten any of the rest of us, because we were &#8220;inferior animals anyways&#8221;. They stayed camped out on our land like a band of gypsies, in trailers and tents, and campers for the entire summer, saying that we had no choice but to let them stay because they were &#8220;superior&#8221; and we &#8220;had no right to make them leave&#8221;!</p>
<p>My grandfather spent most of the summer writing letters to church leaders, telling them of the various &#8220;revelations&#8221; that God was coming down and giving him on an almost daily basis. Much of the complaint letters he sent out to these church leaders, were racial and complained that the church should not be allowing &#8220;demon possessed races&#8221; in their congregations. His list of &#8220;demon possessed races&#8221; included Native Americans, Mexicans, Chinese, &#8220;Blacks&#8221;, &#8220;Japs&#8221;, &#8220;Jews&#8221;, and &#8220;Savages&#8221;.</p>
<p>All I can say it was one hell of an eye-opening summer! By the end of that summer I was thourally convinced that my grandfather was a raving lunatic and that he had brainwashed his sons into acting just like him. Needless to say, I have in the years since avoided contact with these wild, religion crazed, ignorant, and verbally and physically abusive relatives of mine, and am almost ashamed to have to admit that I have any relation to them at all. <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: cwallen</title>
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		<dc:creator>cwallen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sad to believe educated people still take such non sense as fact]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad to believe educated people still take such non sense as fact</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelCraig</title>
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		<dc:creator>MichaelCraig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 23:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The sad part is this misguided soul will probably run for president and get some support from the public.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sad part is this misguided soul will probably run for president and get some support from the public.</p>
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		<title>By: kittenz</title>
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		<dc:creator>kittenz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apparently America does not have a monopoly on racism. Here&#039;s a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.allnewsweb.com/page1881887.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt; to a story from Australia.

This is a quote from the story, which is attributed to Michael Cohen of allnewsweb.com (whom, it must be noted was behind the original Siberian Yeti story):

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;On beaches from Surfers Paradise down to Manly and Coogee in Sydney mobs of young Australians motivated by racism rioted again this year smashing windows of shops owned by non-Europeans, spray-painting racist slogans on them and violently assaulting any non-white Australians unlucky enough to stray into their path. In a bizarre repetition of history one shop in Manly was reported to have been vandalised with the words in spray paint: ‘Aussies: Don’t buy from &#039;refos’ (derogatory term for refugees)’.

Over a hundred young men and women wearing neither shirts nor shoes were involved in such a riot in Manly, a beachside suburb in Sydney popular with tourists: Takeaway food outlets owned by people of Asian and Middle-Eastern appearance had their windows smashed and non-Europeans were assaulted. One Asian-Australian lady aged 18 was showered with glass as hoodlums smashed her car windows: with her in the car. One Sikh taxi driver had his turban pulled off and his beard yanked in front of a jeering mob. Some of the rioting racists carried signs saying ‘Australia is full’ others chanted the sports slogan ‘Aussie Aussie Aussie oi oi oi’.

Miriam Gould had travelled to Manly from Bondi, a suburb with a large population of Jewish holocaust survivors. Miriam was five years old when the Nazis came to power and was living in Berlin with her family. &#039;The last time I saw such scenes I was a little girl. It really was Kristallnacht on the beach: the same faces, the same hateful expressions. I never thought I would experience this again but I just did, on the other side of the world.’ Commented Miriam. ‘The Australian flag was used like the Swastika’ she concluded.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ve always thought of Australians as being very much like Americans. Maybe they are even more so than I imagined.

I know that it&#039;s a minority of people who do these sorts of things, but when are people going to realize that &lt;em&gt;freedom&lt;/em&gt; has to mean &quot;freedom from prejudice&quot; if it&#039;s going to mean &quot;freedom for all&quot; ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently America does not have a monopoly on racism. Here&#8217;s a <a href="http://www.allnewsweb.com/page1881887.php" rel="nofollow">link</a> to a story from Australia.</p>
<p>This is a quote from the story, which is attributed to Michael Cohen of allnewsweb.com (whom, it must be noted was behind the original Siberian Yeti story):</p>
<blockquote cite=""><p>On beaches from Surfers Paradise down to Manly and Coogee in Sydney mobs of young Australians motivated by racism rioted again this year smashing windows of shops owned by non-Europeans, spray-painting racist slogans on them and violently assaulting any non-white Australians unlucky enough to stray into their path. In a bizarre repetition of history one shop in Manly was reported to have been vandalised with the words in spray paint: ‘Aussies: Don’t buy from &#8216;refos’ (derogatory term for refugees)’.</p>
<p>Over a hundred young men and women wearing neither shirts nor shoes were involved in such a riot in Manly, a beachside suburb in Sydney popular with tourists: Takeaway food outlets owned by people of Asian and Middle-Eastern appearance had their windows smashed and non-Europeans were assaulted. One Asian-Australian lady aged 18 was showered with glass as hoodlums smashed her car windows: with her in the car. One Sikh taxi driver had his turban pulled off and his beard yanked in front of a jeering mob. Some of the rioting racists carried signs saying ‘Australia is full’ others chanted the sports slogan ‘Aussie Aussie Aussie oi oi oi’.</p>
<p>Miriam Gould had travelled to Manly from Bondi, a suburb with a large population of Jewish holocaust survivors. Miriam was five years old when the Nazis came to power and was living in Berlin with her family. &#8216;The last time I saw such scenes I was a little girl. It really was Kristallnacht on the beach: the same faces, the same hateful expressions. I never thought I would experience this again but I just did, on the other side of the world.’ Commented Miriam. ‘The Australian flag was used like the Swastika’ she concluded.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve always thought of Australians as being very much like Americans. Maybe they are even more so than I imagined.</p>
<p>I know that it&#8217;s a minority of people who do these sorts of things, but when are people going to realize that <em>freedom</em> has to mean &#8220;freedom from prejudice&#8221; if it&#8217;s going to mean &#8220;freedom for all&#8221; ?</p>
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		<title>By: mfs</title>
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		<dc:creator>mfs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;A fool&#039;s mouth is his destruction&quot; (18:7 KJV)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A fool&#8217;s mouth is his destruction&#8221; (18:7 KJV)</p>
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		<title>By: mfs</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 06:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a pathetic commentary to say the least on this kind of misguided, callous and unconscienable thinking that continues to be a festering wound on the face of humanity.There is absolutely no place in society anywhere for this kind of blatantly assinine way of thinking. To the emailer who sent Loren this&quot;trash&quot; your total stupidity and ignorance precedes your faceless cowardness. Your kind of thinking will not prevail here or anyplace else as long as there are good and decent people like Loren and fellow bloggers who continue to maintain a respectful and intelligent dialogue inspite of those who stay the course of racial ignorance, bigotry and hatred.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a pathetic commentary to say the least on this kind of misguided, callous and unconscienable thinking that continues to be a festering wound on the face of humanity.There is absolutely no place in society anywhere for this kind of blatantly assinine way of thinking. To the emailer who sent Loren this&#8221;trash&#8221; your total stupidity and ignorance precedes your faceless cowardness. Your kind of thinking will not prevail here or anyplace else as long as there are good and decent people like Loren and fellow bloggers who continue to maintain a respectful and intelligent dialogue inspite of those who stay the course of racial ignorance, bigotry and hatred.</p>
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		<title>By: karmicGypsy</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 06:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is unfortunate that ignorance can be so damaging and dangerous.

I feel sorry for them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is unfortunate that ignorance can be so damaging and dangerous.</p>
<p>I feel sorry for them.</p>
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		<title>By: HOOSIERHUNTER</title>
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		<dc:creator>HOOSIERHUNTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 02:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MattBille

Here, Here! As a fellow Christian I agree. Well said.]]></description>
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<p>Here, Here! As a fellow Christian I agree. Well said.</p>
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		<title>By: HOOSIERHUNTER</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 02:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hope no one confuses the ravings of this disturbed mind with those of us who believe in creationism. If anything, I would say this person&#039;s mind has devolved!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope no one confuses the ravings of this disturbed mind with those of us who believe in creationism. If anything, I would say this person&#8217;s mind has devolved!</p>
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		<title>By: lyndonnobles</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 02:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ow! omg..  i think i can FEEL my brain cells dying as I read that email.

Im half Cherokee,.. so does that make me a quarter Orang? OW! there goes another brain cell!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ow! omg..  i think i can FEEL my brain cells dying as I read that email.</p>
<p>Im half Cherokee,.. so does that make me a quarter Orang? OW! there goes another brain cell!</p>
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