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		<title>By: cryptidsrus</title>
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		<dc:creator>cryptidsrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with you, Mystery_Man. Precisely what you said. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you, Mystery_Man. Precisely what you said. <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mystery_man</title>
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		<dc:creator>mystery_man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[gkingdano- One hippo certainly would not have caused any significant damage to the ecosystem of the area. I didn&#039;t mean to imply that when I brought up invasive species. What I was trying to do was illustrate that animals out of their natural environment (such as invasive species) can often survive a lot better than many give them credit for. There are lots of cases of animals surviving in areas that do not even really represent the type of biome they are native to. Nature often finds a way. 

As to the keeping hippo carcass, I don&#039;t know if I&#039;d call it a &quot;trophy&quot; in this case. The article says that it has been put in a cold room, which is quite ba bit different than having it stuffed and put up for show. There are a lot of reasons for them to want to preserve the carcass. I imagine that they are probably going to want to study it. There&#039;s actually a lot of information that could be gleaned from the carcass, such as what its preferred diet was in this habitat, what it&#039;s general health is after 5 years on its own in a foreign environment, any sorts of parasites or diseases it might have been carrying, and so on. I hardly think the reason for keeping it is to use it as a trophy. 

As to the hunters&#039; feelings concerning the kill, it surely does seem that the hunters are distressed and regretful. Just looking at the face of the guy in the picture, the expression on his face makes him seem almost ashamed, and not happy or proud of what has transpired. 

I think this was an honest mistake. Humans get accidentally shot while hunting all of the time, do they not? This was a strange animal where no one would expect it, and under the right circumstances, such as in dense brush, a pygmy hippo could certainly be mistaken for a wild boar in my opinion. 

There&#039;s no reason at all that they could have possibly expected a hippo to be there. If they had idenitified it as such, they may have done things differently, but these were not researchers. They were hunters out hunting boar and came across an animal that looks like one. Surely this unfortunate ocurrence can&#039;t be too surprising. 

It&#039;s a shame, but I&#039;m not sure we can really blame the hunters too much in this case.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gkingdano- One hippo certainly would not have caused any significant damage to the ecosystem of the area. I didn&#8217;t mean to imply that when I brought up invasive species. What I was trying to do was illustrate that animals out of their natural environment (such as invasive species) can often survive a lot better than many give them credit for. There are lots of cases of animals surviving in areas that do not even really represent the type of biome they are native to. Nature often finds a way. </p>
<p>As to the keeping hippo carcass, I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;d call it a &#8220;trophy&#8221; in this case. The article says that it has been put in a cold room, which is quite ba bit different than having it stuffed and put up for show. There are a lot of reasons for them to want to preserve the carcass. I imagine that they are probably going to want to study it. There&#8217;s actually a lot of information that could be gleaned from the carcass, such as what its preferred diet was in this habitat, what it&#8217;s general health is after 5 years on its own in a foreign environment, any sorts of parasites or diseases it might have been carrying, and so on. I hardly think the reason for keeping it is to use it as a trophy. </p>
<p>As to the hunters&#8217; feelings concerning the kill, it surely does seem that the hunters are distressed and regretful. Just looking at the face of the guy in the picture, the expression on his face makes him seem almost ashamed, and not happy or proud of what has transpired. </p>
<p>I think this was an honest mistake. Humans get accidentally shot while hunting all of the time, do they not? This was a strange animal where no one would expect it, and under the right circumstances, such as in dense brush, a pygmy hippo could certainly be mistaken for a wild boar in my opinion. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s no reason at all that they could have possibly expected a hippo to be there. If they had idenitified it as such, they may have done things differently, but these were not researchers. They were hunters out hunting boar and came across an animal that looks like one. Surely this unfortunate ocurrence can&#8217;t be too surprising. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shame, but I&#8217;m not sure we can really blame the hunters too much in this case.</p>
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		<title>By: gkingdano</title>
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		<dc:creator>gkingdano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK Maybe I spoke to fast on the station personnel&#039;s personal feelings. But If one goes out at night with guns and spotlights to hunt hogs, I doubt that one is just going to kiss them and let then go on unharmed. To stuff and put on show the dead hippo sure sounds like a trophy to me, just because they are not going to eat it.   Next time I will wait til y&#039;all make your comments before I put in my 2 cents, so that I can get a feel of how everyone else is going to comment and just go along with everyone else.  As one who HAS hunted feral hogs at night, I know that you don&#039;t just start shooting at something that is running away from the spotlight just so one can get a kill.  If the feral hogs are doing damage to the station grounds, there are better ways to control then{baiting and daylight kill zones or traps}, but they will COST more than a box of bullets.  I admit that I have not traveled to Australia and personally talked to the reporters and the station personnel on exactly the conditions of the damage and bush thickness.
PS. Saw you on Lost Tapes last night, Loren.  And How fast is to fast on posting? Got a message that I was posting to fast.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK Maybe I spoke to fast on the station personnel&#8217;s personal feelings. But If one goes out at night with guns and spotlights to hunt hogs, I doubt that one is just going to kiss them and let then go on unharmed. To stuff and put on show the dead hippo sure sounds like a trophy to me, just because they are not going to eat it.   Next time I will wait til y&#8217;all make your comments before I put in my 2 cents, so that I can get a feel of how everyone else is going to comment and just go along with everyone else.  As one who HAS hunted feral hogs at night, I know that you don&#8217;t just start shooting at something that is running away from the spotlight just so one can get a kill.  If the feral hogs are doing damage to the station grounds, there are better ways to control then{baiting and daylight kill zones or traps}, but they will COST more than a box of bullets.  I admit that I have not traveled to Australia and personally talked to the reporters and the station personnel on exactly the conditions of the damage and bush thickness.<br />
PS. Saw you on Lost Tapes last night, Loren.  And How fast is to fast on posting? Got a message that I was posting to fast.</p>
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		<title>By: Kronprinz_adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kronprinz_adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Poor Hippo!!]]></description>
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		<title>By: halimaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>halimaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[gkingdano: 

    Please wait until you know just a few more facts before painting hunters in such broad uninformed strokes. Not only has another poster pointed out that they weren&#039;t happy to shoot the animal, but I personally don&#039;t think it takes a kill happy individual to mistake a wild pig for a pygmy hippo. And being from Oklahoma myself I can&#039;t say that I or anyone else I know would try to get close enough to examine a hog at night to see if it might be an out of place hippo. (1: because hogs aren&#039;t the friendliest of animals to approach. 2: Why would anybody think there might even be a small chance of there being a hippo where one doesn&#039;t belong!?)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gkingdano: </p>
<p>    Please wait until you know just a few more facts before painting hunters in such broad uninformed strokes. Not only has another poster pointed out that they weren&#8217;t happy to shoot the animal, but I personally don&#8217;t think it takes a kill happy individual to mistake a wild pig for a pygmy hippo. And being from Oklahoma myself I can&#8217;t say that I or anyone else I know would try to get close enough to examine a hog at night to see if it might be an out of place hippo. (1: because hogs aren&#8217;t the friendliest of animals to approach. 2: Why would anybody think there might even be a small chance of there being a hippo where one doesn&#8217;t belong!?)</p>
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		<title>By: cryptidsrus</title>
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		<dc:creator>cryptidsrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is one of those &quot;You don&#039;t say&quot; moments. Wonder what other African species are out there in Good Ole Down Under???
I agree with you, Mystery_Man. I&#039;m also not surprised this Pygmy Hippo survived for five years in this habitat. Tropical humid weather is common in OZ. More to come, I guess. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of those &#8220;You don&#8217;t say&#8221; moments. Wonder what other African species are out there in Good Ole Down Under???<br />
I agree with you, Mystery_Man. I&#8217;m also not surprised this Pygmy Hippo survived for five years in this habitat. Tropical humid weather is common in OZ. More to come, I guess. <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dougal Longfoot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dougal Longfoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In response to gkingdano&#039;s comment, although the report Loren has referred to doesn&#039;t reflect it, other media reports indicate that the hunters were quite distressed when they realised the animal was a pygmy hippo:
&quot;The manager of a cattle station in the Douglas Daly region south-west of Darwin says he feels devastated and horrified to have shot a pygmy hippopotamus on Saturday night...Nico says he feels sick in the stomach after accidentally slaughtering the rare species...I am a bit disgusted, sick to my stomach. It is on the way to get taxidermied, to get it all put together so people can see it. It is not really a trophy or something you would brag about. It makes you feel sick.&quot;

From the Australian Broadcasting Corporation website]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to gkingdano&#8217;s comment, although the report Loren has referred to doesn&#8217;t reflect it, other media reports indicate that the hunters were quite distressed when they realised the animal was a pygmy hippo:<br />
&#8220;The manager of a cattle station in the Douglas Daly region south-west of Darwin says he feels devastated and horrified to have shot a pygmy hippopotamus on Saturday night&#8230;Nico says he feels sick in the stomach after accidentally slaughtering the rare species&#8230;I am a bit disgusted, sick to my stomach. It is on the way to get taxidermied, to get it all put together so people can see it. It is not really a trophy or something you would brag about. It makes you feel sick.&#8221;</p>
<p>From the Australian Broadcasting Corporation website</p>
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		<title>By: gkingdano</title>
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		<dc:creator>gkingdano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know that the feral hog problems can be very destructive to farms and ranches.  And that going around in the middle of the night with rifles looking for SOMETHING to kill can be very exciting to a certain group of REAL MEN of the outback. If the bush was so thick that they could not identify what they were trying to kill, it was not really habitat that would be hurt by 1 hippo. They should have been more knowlegdeable about what they were firing at and trying to kill.  Hope these type of guys are not out trying to &quot;hunt&quot; the wowies and fire at something that sort of looks like a dark hairy human-like animal at night, that turns out to be another human.  But again they are getting their 15+ minutes of fame, and probably a lot of free Foster&#039;s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that the feral hog problems can be very destructive to farms and ranches.  And that going around in the middle of the night with rifles looking for SOMETHING to kill can be very exciting to a certain group of REAL MEN of the outback. If the bush was so thick that they could not identify what they were trying to kill, it was not really habitat that would be hurt by 1 hippo. They should have been more knowlegdeable about what they were firing at and trying to kill.  Hope these type of guys are not out trying to &#8220;hunt&#8221; the wowies and fire at something that sort of looks like a dark hairy human-like animal at night, that turns out to be another human.  But again they are getting their 15+ minutes of fame, and probably a lot of free Foster&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: jtmkryptos</title>
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		<dc:creator>jtmkryptos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ya know that probably hasn&#039;t helped the whole &quot;its an escaped pet/circus train/zoo animal&quot;.

ps: kind of having to do with this, are there even any circus trains that could be explanations for such creatures as bigfoot and nessie?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ya know that probably hasn&#8217;t helped the whole &#8220;its an escaped pet/circus train/zoo animal&#8221;.</p>
<p>ps: kind of having to do with this, are there even any circus trains that could be explanations for such creatures as bigfoot and nessie?</p>
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		<title>By: mystery_man</title>
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		<dc:creator>mystery_man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The climate around the Douglas Daly station is hot, humid, and tropical from what I understand which makes it similar to the conditions that pygmy hippos are used to. Pygmy hippos are not particularly choosy about what they eat, they eat a wide variety of plants, and will eat pretty much whatever vegetation or fruit is available. The Douglas Daly experiment station is also located at the junction of the Douglas and Daly rivers, which combined with the climate would make the habitat perfect for a largely river dwelling tropical animal like the pygmy hippo.

If there were adequate food resources in this area, and the hippo was in good health, then I suppose it is not too far fetched that it could survive on its own for five years.  

I&#039;m not too surprised. In my research concerning introduced and invasive species in foreign ecosystems, one thing I&#039;ve learned is that people tend to sometimes underestimate how tenacious and adaptable some animals can be. In a habitat seemingly so nearly approximating the pygmy hippo&#039;s native environment, with an opportunistic feeder like this hippo is known to be, I don&#039;t see any reason why it should have been assumed dead after its escape.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The climate around the Douglas Daly station is hot, humid, and tropical from what I understand which makes it similar to the conditions that pygmy hippos are used to. Pygmy hippos are not particularly choosy about what they eat, they eat a wide variety of plants, and will eat pretty much whatever vegetation or fruit is available. The Douglas Daly experiment station is also located at the junction of the Douglas and Daly rivers, which combined with the climate would make the habitat perfect for a largely river dwelling tropical animal like the pygmy hippo.</p>
<p>If there were adequate food resources in this area, and the hippo was in good health, then I suppose it is not too far fetched that it could survive on its own for five years.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not too surprised. In my research concerning introduced and invasive species in foreign ecosystems, one thing I&#8217;ve learned is that people tend to sometimes underestimate how tenacious and adaptable some animals can be. In a habitat seemingly so nearly approximating the pygmy hippo&#8217;s native environment, with an opportunistic feeder like this hippo is known to be, I don&#8217;t see any reason why it should have been assumed dead after its escape.</p>
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