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		<title>By: MattBille</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/pelicanism1897/#comment-41496</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 04:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait a second here.
If the complaint is against hard-to-believe solutions, let's assume your choices are:
1. A sandhill crane, out of its normal range and not otherwise reported, with witnesses making some mistakes in describing it.
2. A flying vertebrate of sandhill crane size or larger, which has lived undiscovered in the United States until the present.

Which is harder to believe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait a second here.<br />
If the complaint is against hard-to-believe solutions, let&#8217;s assume your choices are:<br />
1. A sandhill crane, out of its normal range and not otherwise reported, with witnesses making some mistakes in describing it.<br />
2. A flying vertebrate of sandhill crane size or larger, which has lived undiscovered in the United States until the present.</p>
<p>Which is harder to believe?</p>
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		<title>By: DWA</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/pelicanism1897/#comment-41495</link>
		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 15:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>things-in-the-woods:

You're right.  And as I've pointed out elsewhere on this site it's sort of science's fault.  (Although I accept individuals' protestations that their plates are full, and the nuttiness of some proponent theories makes the field, um, sorta risky.)

If mainstream scientists leave cryptozoology to amateurs, this is what happens.

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Question:  So, sir, why do so few people see sasquatch, if they exist?  Why is there so little evidence?

Amateur answers:

"Um, he's a, um, shapeshifter."

"Um, he's a, um, time traveler from another world."

"Um, the saucer people don't want us to think he's a regular thing, but in fact a warning..."

"There may be only five."

"They bury their dead.  I've seen it."

"They orb to avoid notice."

"They are NOT found in Iowa."  (Um, how do you KNOW, sir...?)

Professional answer:

"Actually, lots of people seem to see them.  And there's lots of supporting evidence.  We have a head start on the biology of the species from the anecdotal evidence alone.  And the data supports statistical investigation and biogeographical expectations.  Problem is:  if you see one of these, you're a nut.  Kinda makes funding a confirmation effort (not a search, note; people seem already to have found the sasquatch) difficult."

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Against time-traveling shape-shifting orbing blobsquatch, all of a sudden

"inexplicable mass hallucination" or

"a continent of lying hoaxers working in league" or

"one or two incredible geniuses, wasting their time for peanuts when they could blaze new scientific trails - or make the biggest fortunes ever - with their smarts"

sound, well, almost rational.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>things-in-the-woods:</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right.  And as I&#8217;ve pointed out elsewhere on this site it&#8217;s sort of science&#8217;s fault.  (Although I accept individuals&#8217; protestations that their plates are full, and the nuttiness of some proponent theories makes the field, um, sorta risky.)</p>
<p>If mainstream scientists leave cryptozoology to amateurs, this is what happens.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Question:  So, sir, why do so few people see sasquatch, if they exist?  Why is there so little evidence?</p>
<p>Amateur answers:</p>
<p>&#8220;Um, he&#8217;s a, um, shapeshifter.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Um, he&#8217;s a, um, time traveler from another world.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Um, the saucer people don&#8217;t want us to think he&#8217;s a regular thing, but in fact a warning&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;There may be only five.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;They bury their dead.  I&#8217;ve seen it.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;They orb to avoid notice.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;They are NOT found in Iowa.&#8221;  (Um, how do you KNOW, sir&#8230;?)</p>
<p>Professional answer:</p>
<p>&#8220;Actually, lots of people seem to see them.  And there&#8217;s lots of supporting evidence.  We have a head start on the biology of the species from the anecdotal evidence alone.  And the data supports statistical investigation and biogeographical expectations.  Problem is:  if you see one of these, you&#8217;re a nut.  Kinda makes funding a confirmation effort (not a search, note; people seem already to have found the sasquatch) difficult.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Against time-traveling shape-shifting orbing blobsquatch, all of a sudden</p>
<p>&#8220;inexplicable mass hallucination&#8221; or</p>
<p>&#8220;a continent of lying hoaxers working in league&#8221; or</p>
<p>&#8220;one or two incredible geniuses, wasting their time for peanuts when they could blaze new scientific trails - or make the biggest fortunes ever - with their smarts&#8221;</p>
<p>sound, well, almost rational.</p>
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		<title>By: things-in-the-woods</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/pelicanism1897/#comment-41494</link>
		<dc:creator>things-in-the-woods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with greatanarch- there undoubtedly are 'pelicanists', but i really strongly suspect the real problem in cryptozoology is the people doing the opposite (proposing incredible answers on the basis of insufficient/inconclusive evidence - 'unicornists' perhaps?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with greatanarch- there undoubtedly are &#8216;pelicanists&#8217;, but i really strongly suspect the real problem in cryptozoology is the people doing the opposite (proposing incredible answers on the basis of insufficient/inconclusive evidence - &#8216;unicornists&#8217; perhaps?)</p>
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		<title>By: red_pill_junkie</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/pelicanism1897/#comment-41493</link>
		<dc:creator>red_pill_junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 23:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"otterism"! LOL High five noobfun ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;otterism&#8221;! LOL High five noobfun <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: greatanarch</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/pelicanism1897/#comment-41492</link>
		<dc:creator>greatanarch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough, but don't star-travelling aliens also qualify as a "hard-to believe solution" for puzzling UFO sightings?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough, but don&#8217;t star-travelling aliens also qualify as a &#8220;hard-to believe solution&#8221; for puzzling UFO sightings?</p>
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		<title>By: noobfun</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/pelicanism1897/#comment-41491</link>
		<dc:creator>noobfun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well if ufology coined the term pelicanism for airbourne things

then i herby claim otterism for water bound cryptids on behalf of cryptomundo  :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well if ufology coined the term pelicanism for airbourne things</p>
<p>then i herby claim otterism for water bound cryptids on behalf of cryptomundo  <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: DWA</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/pelicanism1897/#comment-41490</link>
		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ETxArtist:

As one who thinks the white pelican is probably America's most easily identifiable bird in flight (bald eagle?  Please....)

...I STILL think one could mistake one for a UFO.  Like I almost did when I saw a pair of them over the Chesapeake and Delaware Canal a few Octobers back.

They were NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE.

(Although they not only winter, but summer far inland, for example, Grand Teton and Yellowstone NPs.)

So now?  Well, of course, a small party of them has spent the past, say, three or so winters at Blackwater National Wildlife Refuge in Dorchester County, MD.  Neither this nor the C&#38;D is "far inland."  They are, however, far from where you should expect white pelicans.  Ever.

That was then, I guess, and now is now.  I just wish they'd prepared me better.

Birds, as Roger Tory Peterson once put it, have wings, and they do things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ETxArtist:</p>
<p>As one who thinks the white pelican is probably America&#8217;s most easily identifiable bird in flight (bald eagle?  Please&#8230;.)</p>
<p>&#8230;I STILL think one could mistake one for a UFO.  Like I almost did when I saw a pair of them over the Chesapeake and Delaware Canal a few Octobers back.</p>
<p>They were NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE.</p>
<p>(Although they not only winter, but summer far inland, for example, Grand Teton and Yellowstone NPs.)</p>
<p>So now?  Well, of course, a small party of them has spent the past, say, three or so winters at Blackwater National Wildlife Refuge in Dorchester County, MD.  Neither this nor the C&amp;D is &#8220;far inland.&#8221;  They are, however, far from where you should expect white pelicans.  Ever.</p>
<p>That was then, I guess, and now is now.  I just wish they&#8217;d prepared me better.</p>
<p>Birds, as Roger Tory Peterson once put it, have wings, and they do things.</p>
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		<title>By: ETxArtist</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/pelicanism1897/#comment-41489</link>
		<dc:creator>ETxArtist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm sure most of us have seen pelicans flying in a row at some point in our lives. One interesting thing that may not be common knowledge is that white pelicans sometimes winter far inland, and are a common sight (to those who know what they are) in north Texas. A mysterious, large, white bird flying or floating might explain at least a few observations of cryptids and UFO-types, do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure most of us have seen pelicans flying in a row at some point in our lives. One interesting thing that may not be common knowledge is that white pelicans sometimes winter far inland, and are a common sight (to those who know what they are) in north Texas. A mysterious, large, white bird flying or floating might explain at least a few observations of cryptids and UFO-types, do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: DWA</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/pelicanism1897/#comment-41488</link>
		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those aren't pelicans.  They're...they're....ROPEN!!!!!!!

Couldn't resist.

Did want to ask, though.  Aren't those pelican-feeding-young illustrations kinda missing, well, what makes a pelican a pelican...?  Like, the beak that holds more than its belican?

Talk about pelicanism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those aren&#8217;t pelicans.  They&#8217;re&#8230;they&#8217;re&#8230;.ROPEN!!!!!!!</p>
<p>Couldn&#8217;t resist.</p>
<p>Did want to ask, though.  Aren&#8217;t those pelican-feeding-young illustrations kinda missing, well, what makes a pelican a pelican&#8230;?  Like, the beak that holds more than its belican?</p>
<p>Talk about pelicanism.</p>
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