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		<title>By: DWA</title>
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		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 00:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This, from Ben Radford&#039;s Greatest Hits:

&quot;The idea that nobody has duplicated the P/G film and therefore it’s evidence of authenticity is a red herring… I’ve heard the same argument about the Egyptian pyramids, that because critics have not built a full-size pyramid to prove how it could be done somehow proves it couldn’t be done. Ridiculous. Just because no one has put in the considerable time, money, and effort to duplicate the film doesn’t mean it can’t be done. Logic fail.&quot;

That paragraph is the &quot;logic fail.&quot;  Just needed to put this up here, in case anyone gets challenged like that by some nut.

The scientific mainstream accepts the construction of the Pyramids, by those &quot;alleged&quot; (i.e., proven) to have originally done so.  (So do, um, you, if you have ever, um, seen them.)  Anyone who thinks they &quot;couldn&#039;t be done&quot; is, um, well now, soft in the head doesn&#039;t begin to say it.  Anyone who would duplicate the construction of the Pyramids, just to show that, yep, they really (duh!) did it, is, well, nutty as a Pharaoh.  All one has to do when confronted on this is what one would do if told that the moon landings were faked or that Bush blew up the Twin Towers:  Um, sure, buddy.  You show me your evidence whenever you&#039;re ready.  But no one needs to build a Pyramid to prove anything.  Buy a plane ticket.

The &quot;skeptics&quot; allege that P/G was not only faked, but easy to fake.  Radford is one of the key proponents of this tabula-rasa &#039;thesis&#039;; he has said it could have been done for as little as a few hundred dollars.  (It&#039;s right here on Cryptomundo, Ben, don&#039;t deny it.)   That is cheap, and easy.  Radford himself would be able to do it, easily, for that little money if it could be done.  And he has enormous incentive to do it.  There is much opinion that P/G is genuine, and much opinion that it was faked.  It is easily one of the world&#039;s greatest mysteries; no hoax ever debunked has anything like its staying power.

That no one has duplicated it - with all the interest, with all the challenges out there - is, indeed, as strong a piece of evidence as it would be possible to produce short of proof that it can&#039;t be done, because that figure is in its birthday suit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This, from Ben Radford&#8217;s Greatest Hits:</p>
<p>&#8220;The idea that nobody has duplicated the P/G film and therefore it’s evidence of authenticity is a red herring… I’ve heard the same argument about the Egyptian pyramids, that because critics have not built a full-size pyramid to prove how it could be done somehow proves it couldn’t be done. Ridiculous. Just because no one has put in the considerable time, money, and effort to duplicate the film doesn’t mean it can’t be done. Logic fail.&#8221;</p>
<p>That paragraph is the &#8220;logic fail.&#8221;  Just needed to put this up here, in case anyone gets challenged like that by some nut.</p>
<p>The scientific mainstream accepts the construction of the Pyramids, by those &#8220;alleged&#8221; (i.e., proven) to have originally done so.  (So do, um, you, if you have ever, um, seen them.)  Anyone who thinks they &#8220;couldn&#8217;t be done&#8221; is, um, well now, soft in the head doesn&#8217;t begin to say it.  Anyone who would duplicate the construction of the Pyramids, just to show that, yep, they really (duh!) did it, is, well, nutty as a Pharaoh.  All one has to do when confronted on this is what one would do if told that the moon landings were faked or that Bush blew up the Twin Towers:  Um, sure, buddy.  You show me your evidence whenever you&#8217;re ready.  But no one needs to build a Pyramid to prove anything.  Buy a plane ticket.</p>
<p>The &#8220;skeptics&#8221; allege that P/G was not only faked, but easy to fake.  Radford is one of the key proponents of this tabula-rasa &#8216;thesis&#8217;; he has said it could have been done for as little as a few hundred dollars.  (It&#8217;s right here on Cryptomundo, Ben, don&#8217;t deny it.)   That is cheap, and easy.  Radford himself would be able to do it, easily, for that little money if it could be done.  And he has enormous incentive to do it.  There is much opinion that P/G is genuine, and much opinion that it was faked.  It is easily one of the world&#8217;s greatest mysteries; no hoax ever debunked has anything like its staying power.</p>
<p>That no one has duplicated it &#8211; with all the interest, with all the challenges out there &#8211; is, indeed, as strong a piece of evidence as it would be possible to produce short of proof that it can&#8217;t be done, because that figure is in its birthday suit.</p>
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		<title>By: kittalia</title>
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		<dc:creator>kittalia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 23:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[norman-uk

Good points.  I still don&#039;t see it as being real, even with the face shot. Two more points- with other apes, their breasts are only visible when nursing.  Almost all sightings of females have babies with them, most likely because it is to hard to tell the difference when not nursing.  Also, all other primate breasts are nearly hairless.  Bigfoot might exist, but my vision of a bigfoot isn&#039;t quite like this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>norman-uk</p>
<p>Good points.  I still don&#8217;t see it as being real, even with the face shot. Two more points- with other apes, their breasts are only visible when nursing.  Almost all sightings of females have babies with them, most likely because it is to hard to tell the difference when not nursing.  Also, all other primate breasts are nearly hairless.  Bigfoot might exist, but my vision of a bigfoot isn&#8217;t quite like this.</p>
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		<title>By: BUKWASBOO</title>
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		<dc:creator>BUKWASBOO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 18:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Patty&#039;s the real thing for sure .........People talk about the Patterson/Gimlin encounter/film like its the encounter to end all,..people should keep in mind that sightings like this and even better happen every year its just that Patterson got his on film ...WHY HIM ?...because he had every confidence that he would if he just kept looking , and he was ready for it....if you read hes book you&#039;ll find that his passion and wide eyed enthusiasm is more than evident,... in 1967 was still the infants of bigfooting ,...he &quot;knew&quot; discovery was just around the corner and he wanted to be the guy 
We are now in an era of frustration... but we DO know more about these beings now even though what were finding out is clearly making some uncomfortable,...........but all bigfooters should take heart ! WE HAVE A REAL Bigfoot on film ! for us all to see ! and to wonder at,.. very,very COOL !  So Happy Birthday Patty !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty&#8217;s the real thing for sure &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;People talk about the Patterson/Gimlin encounter/film like its the encounter to end all,..people should keep in mind that sightings like this and even better happen every year its just that Patterson got his on film &#8230;WHY HIM ?&#8230;because he had every confidence that he would if he just kept looking , and he was ready for it&#8230;.if you read hes book you&#8217;ll find that his passion and wide eyed enthusiasm is more than evident,&#8230; in 1967 was still the infants of bigfooting ,&#8230;he &#8220;knew&#8221; discovery was just around the corner and he wanted to be the guy<br />
We are now in an era of frustration&#8230; but we DO know more about these beings now even though what were finding out is clearly making some uncomfortable,&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..but all bigfooters should take heart ! WE HAVE A REAL Bigfoot on film ! for us all to see ! and to wonder at,.. very,very COOL !  So Happy Birthday Patty !</p>
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		<title>By: norman-uk</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 11:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[kittalia 
    Possibly you are honestly right and Pattie is a figure wearing a mask, but if so what is she?  I think you would have a very difficult time matching the figure up with any human. That is taking the film as a whole. Perhaps you are just looking at the darker picture above (frame 352 ?). The brown pic below this gives possibly a more realistic view of Bigfoot or Mrs Bigfoot.  I think it is a much harder task to make the case out for a human in a suit than some other kind of hominid and if cryptozoologists were trying to do this instead of bigfoot they would really be up against it.

   A &#039;what if thought&#039; that goes through my mind sometimes, is that as dinosaurs where on the planet for so long why didn&#039;t a highly intelligent version evolve convergently with hominids and does it still survive?  Birds dont fit the bill! Could explain some of the difficulties absolutely prooving bigfoot !  Well I dont think there is any evidence of it except in sci-fi! So while not abandoning the idea altogether I still look slightly hopefully out of the corner of my eyes for any clues.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kittalia<br />
    Possibly you are honestly right and Pattie is a figure wearing a mask, but if so what is she?  I think you would have a very difficult time matching the figure up with any human. That is taking the film as a whole. Perhaps you are just looking at the darker picture above (frame 352 ?). The brown pic below this gives possibly a more realistic view of Bigfoot or Mrs Bigfoot.  I think it is a much harder task to make the case out for a human in a suit than some other kind of hominid and if cryptozoologists were trying to do this instead of bigfoot they would really be up against it.</p>
<p>   A &#8216;what if thought&#8217; that goes through my mind sometimes, is that as dinosaurs where on the planet for so long why didn&#8217;t a highly intelligent version evolve convergently with hominids and does it still survive?  Birds dont fit the bill! Could explain some of the difficulties absolutely prooving bigfoot !  Well I dont think there is any evidence of it except in sci-fi! So while not abandoning the idea altogether I still look slightly hopefully out of the corner of my eyes for any clues.</p>
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		<title>By: kittalia</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 01:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I honestly don&#039;t think the film could be real.  Say what you want, I can&#039;t see it&#039;s head being anything but a mask.  Everyone talks about how it moves, and fps, but the biggest thing is looking real.  If someone could show me how that perfect pale rectangle could be a face, realistically, I might believe it.  But I&#039;ve seen numerous paintings, etc, and it still looks like a hole to see out of to me.  Also, it has pale skin under the fur (soles of the feet, face, palms) and most primates have pale skin.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestly don&#8217;t think the film could be real.  Say what you want, I can&#8217;t see it&#8217;s head being anything but a mask.  Everyone talks about how it moves, and fps, but the biggest thing is looking real.  If someone could show me how that perfect pale rectangle could be a face, realistically, I might believe it.  But I&#8217;ve seen numerous paintings, etc, and it still looks like a hole to see out of to me.  Also, it has pale skin under the fur (soles of the feet, face, palms) and most primates have pale skin.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Michaels via Facebook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Michaels via Facebook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 19:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I read the Article in Argosy magazine, interested in Cryptozoology ever since.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the Article in Argosy magazine, interested in Cryptozoology ever since.</p>
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		<title>By: William Robert Hancock via Facebook</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Robert Hancock via Facebook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 16:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Happy birthday Patty! Many happy returns!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy birthday Patty! Many happy returns!</p>
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		<title>By: Randal Bradford via Facebook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randal Bradford via Facebook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 04:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I fully believe this footage is authentic.....mainly because at that time there was NO way to make a costume as realistic as this even Hollywood did not have the ability to create this at that time..plus who in their right mind would be intelligent enough to think to make this specimen a female with noticeable breasts?  those who wish to trash this video can do so all they want.....in all honesty...they can&#039;t prove its a fake and we can&#039;t prove its reality!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully believe this footage is authentic&#8230;..mainly because at that time there was NO way to make a costume as realistic as this even Hollywood did not have the ability to create this at that time..plus who in their right mind would be intelligent enough to think to make this specimen a female with noticeable breasts?  those who wish to trash this video can do so all they want&#8230;..in all honesty&#8230;they can&#8217;t prove its a fake and we can&#8217;t prove its reality!</p>
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