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		<title>By: KristyBeast</title>
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		<dc:creator>KristyBeast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 02:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always thought the Thylacine appeared to look more like a canine in the muzzle as well. It's snout looked more like a dog than a large cat to me. 
I knew they were marsupials but I didn't know their pouches were backward. That's pretty interesting!

I can't tell you how badly I want someone to find a real, living Thylacine. =(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always thought the Thylacine appeared to look more like a canine in the muzzle as well. It&#8217;s snout looked more like a dog than a large cat to me.<br />
I knew they were marsupials but I didn&#8217;t know their pouches were backward. That&#8217;s pretty interesting!</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t tell you how badly I want someone to find a real, living Thylacine. =(</p>
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		<title>By: ninetailedfox</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/oz-striped/#comment-38039</link>
		<dc:creator>ninetailedfox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 20:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mangy FOX!? #%@^&#38;%!  Tazzie tiger is a type of ferret.  Look at it.  Closely.  Its a ferret with stripes.  (I like weasels, so its a weasel) BTW the box fox is also a type of ferret.   How do I know? its a secret.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mangy FOX!? #%@^&amp;%!  Tazzie tiger is a type of ferret.  Look at it.  Closely.  Its a ferret with stripes.  (I like weasels, so its a weasel) BTW the box fox is also a type of ferret.   How do I know? its a secret.</p>
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		<title>By: cryp-23</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say its most likely a dingo with mange.</description>
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		<title>By: kittenz</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/oz-striped/#comment-38037</link>
		<dc:creator>kittenz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DavidFredSneakers,

Yes, that is what I was referring to. Thanks for posting the link. I had seen it awhile back but had forgotten what the mutation is called (a "Sampson" fox).

I wonder if animals with this mutation will have a better chance now than in the past, of surviving and producing offspring, due to the warming climate? The Sampson mutation apparently produces a coat without the long shaggy guard hairs that give a red fox its typical appearaance. Maybe this is evolution in action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DavidFredSneakers,</p>
<p>Yes, that is what I was referring to. Thanks for posting the link. I had seen it awhile back but had forgotten what the mutation is called (a &#8220;Sampson&#8221; fox).</p>
<p>I wonder if animals with this mutation will have a better chance now than in the past, of surviving and producing offspring, due to the warming climate? The Sampson mutation apparently produces a coat without the long shaggy guard hairs that give a red fox its typical appearaance. Maybe this is evolution in action.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidFredSneakers</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/oz-striped/#comment-38036</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidFredSneakers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Between now and my last comment, I've done some research. It appears Kittenz was right when suggesting it was an example of a hairlessness mutation, not mange.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/03/0321_060321_tyco_fox.html

http://scienceblogs.com/clock/2007/02/hairless_grey_foxes_in_north_c.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Between now and my last comment, I&#8217;ve done some research. It appears Kittenz was right when suggesting it was an example of a hairlessness mutation, not mange.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/03/0321_060321_tyco_fox.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/03/0321_060321_tyco_fox.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/clock/2007/02/hairless_grey_foxes_in_north_c.php" rel="nofollow">http://scienceblogs.com/clock/2007/02/hairless_grey_foxes_in_north_c.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: DavidFredSneakers</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/oz-striped/#comment-38035</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidFredSneakers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When was the first fox pictures found to be a fox with mange?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When was the first fox pictures found to be a fox with mange?</p>
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		<title>By: youcantryreachingme</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/oz-striped/#comment-38034</link>
		<dc:creator>youcantryreachingme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 06:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sschaper - I missed your comment when I posted my own. I too thought of thylacoleo. The impression I get of thylacoleo is that it is an oversized possum-like tree dweller that may have pounced down on smaller prey.

The point is, when brushtail possums walk along on all fours, their tails commonly stick up in the air.

A second interesting point is that in the earliest fauna records of Queensland, the "Queensland tiger" appears, then suddenly there are no more records in official books. Was this thylacoleo? Was it a prank that slipped into publication? Was there a real animal and if so, is it still there now?

Back to the report at hand, the most likely choices would have to be dog then dingo. Following that, possibly a cat or fox, and then your less credible creatures like thylacines and thylacoleo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sschaper - I missed your comment when I posted my own. I too thought of thylacoleo. The impression I get of thylacoleo is that it is an oversized possum-like tree dweller that may have pounced down on smaller prey.</p>
<p>The point is, when brushtail possums walk along on all fours, their tails commonly stick up in the air.</p>
<p>A second interesting point is that in the earliest fauna records of Queensland, the &#8220;Queensland tiger&#8221; appears, then suddenly there are no more records in official books. Was this thylacoleo? Was it a prank that slipped into publication? Was there a real animal and if so, is it still there now?</p>
<p>Back to the report at hand, the most likely choices would have to be dog then dingo. Following that, possibly a cat or fox, and then your less credible creatures like thylacines and thylacoleo.</p>
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		<title>By: youcantryreachingme</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 06:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I might have missed it in the comments, but I wonder if a mangy dog is the answer? There are dog breeds with upright tails. Does anyone know one which grows to about 1 metre?

The other creature that comes to mind is "Rilla's Critter" for the stripes on the front half of its body. However, even though it seems to have a small head, its chest appears quite heavy-set, unlike the description of this animal - although mange, malnutrition... they can alter appearances somewhat.

Someone asked what time it gets dark here. Sunset is a few minutes after 8 pm, and all daylight is gone by about 8:30 at the moment.

Great info on the thylacine Kittenz! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might have missed it in the comments, but I wonder if a mangy dog is the answer? There are dog breeds with upright tails. Does anyone know one which grows to about 1 metre?</p>
<p>The other creature that comes to mind is &#8220;Rilla&#8217;s Critter&#8221; for the stripes on the front half of its body. However, even though it seems to have a small head, its chest appears quite heavy-set, unlike the description of this animal - although mange, malnutrition&#8230; they can alter appearances somewhat.</p>
<p>Someone asked what time it gets dark here. Sunset is a few minutes after 8 pm, and all daylight is gone by about 8:30 at the moment.</p>
<p>Great info on the thylacine Kittenz! <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: mystery_man</title>
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		<dc:creator>mystery_man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the thylacines are indeed marsupials and it points to how interesting the concept of "convergent evolution" is. For those who are not familiar with the term, "convergent evolution" basically means that two completely different animals have adapted in very similar ways to a similar habitat, food type, or biological niche. Nature tends to stick with what works (some animals have not changed much in millions of years), and if a particular form or function is quite successful, it is likely to pop up in different species. It is the reason why dolphins somewhat resemble sharks in appearance, why you have amphibians that look like snakes, and why bats have developed wings like birds (albeit in a radically different way). Many animals have adapted nearly identical "solutions" to the rigors of survival.

All these animals have separately evolved similar adaptations in response to the same selective pressures and needs of the environment or niche that they occupy. The dolphins and sharks, for instance, because that body shape is the best one for operating in their marine environment. The environment is going to favor the adaptations and mutations that are most conducive to survival. And so you come to the Thylacines.

Thylacines evolved on an isolated continent, without any dogs (and even if they COULD interbreed with dogs, which they can't, let's remember dingoes weren't introduced until much later.), and without any biological connection to dogs, yet they bear a remarkable physical resemblance largely because they fill the same ecological niche. It really is quite fascinating to think about.

And notice that I use the present tense when referring to the Thylacine too, because I agree with Kittenz that they are perhaps not extinct yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the thylacines are indeed marsupials and it points to how interesting the concept of &#8220;convergent evolution&#8221; is. For those who are not familiar with the term, &#8220;convergent evolution&#8221; basically means that two completely different animals have adapted in very similar ways to a similar habitat, food type, or biological niche. Nature tends to stick with what works (some animals have not changed much in millions of years), and if a particular form or function is quite successful, it is likely to pop up in different species. It is the reason why dolphins somewhat resemble sharks in appearance, why you have amphibians that look like snakes, and why bats have developed wings like birds (albeit in a radically different way). Many animals have adapted nearly identical &#8220;solutions&#8221; to the rigors of survival.</p>
<p>All these animals have separately evolved similar adaptations in response to the same selective pressures and needs of the environment or niche that they occupy. The dolphins and sharks, for instance, because that body shape is the best one for operating in their marine environment. The environment is going to favor the adaptations and mutations that are most conducive to survival. And so you come to the Thylacines.</p>
<p>Thylacines evolved on an isolated continent, without any dogs (and even if they COULD interbreed with dogs, which they can&#8217;t, let&#8217;s remember dingoes weren&#8217;t introduced until much later.), and without any biological connection to dogs, yet they bear a remarkable physical resemblance largely because they fill the same ecological niche. It really is quite fascinating to think about.</p>
<p>And notice that I use the present tense when referring to the Thylacine too, because I agree with Kittenz that they are perhaps not extinct yet.</p>
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		<title>By: sschaper</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 04:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The upright tale is interesting, and reminds me of the reports of that guy a few years back who thought he had detected thylacoleo - the marsupial lion - still alive in a fairly isolated location.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The upright tale is interesting, and reminds me of the reports of that guy a few years back who thought he had detected thylacoleo - the marsupial lion - still alive in a fairly isolated location.</p>
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