Hey man

I used Lieumentary because Bill Maher, like David Frayer, based a lot of his data on mis-information: The Horus-Christ link was the biggest example in the former doc.

1. Horus was not crucified: crucifixion had not been invented when the Egyptian Book of the Dead was written, and it was invented in Persia.

2. He wasn’t baptized by Anup the Baptizer (who himself is not found in the Egyptian Book of the Dead, though a similar named individual is found in the text who is neither a baptizer nor baptizes Horus),

3. Horus was not virgin born (Isis slept with Osiris, Horus’ physical daddy, when he was a corpse, he had a fake wooden tallywacker instead of his original, but was otherwise fully biological when the conception happened. Odd for sure, but not virgin. There are virgin births in other myths (Roman Mars for example)

4. He did not have 12 “disciples”,

5. the death and resurrection of Horus was not physical like Christ’s (he died physically, the body rotted, he was pure God in the Heavens. No physical resurrection. Plus dying/resurrection for a Sun God (such as Horus) fits Pagan sun religions (which won’t make Horus really exceptional: RA was also a sun god in Egypt, the Supreme God when combined with Amun, but is a far cry from that of Christ in the New Testament.),

6. Horus never walked on Water (Orion, the giant hunter of Greek Mythology, did, because he was the son of Poseidon), etc.

here are some links:

The Leading Religion Writer in Canada … Does He Know What He’s Talking About?

All About Horus

Jesus Christ in comparative mythology (Ancient Egypt)

He based his arguments on flawed research which has never held water with mainstream egyptology. Much like Pseudoskeptics use tactics against some Cryptids that likewise don’t hold water, such as the Yeti-Hairs-All-Proved-To-Be-Bison-Hairs statement.

I have said, about 58,945 times on this site alone, that when most scientists open their mouths on hairy hominoids, their utter ignorance is the first thing out.

Here’s another one.

Science is about curiosity. When yours is where this guy’s is, you have added but little value to your degree since the day you got it.

When a scientist scoffs, the public should consider it dereliction of duty. The world will be a better place when that happens.

But still, between Sykes and Ketchum one of them should pan out sooner or later. Even if all they find is a new species of bear at least we have ‘legitimate’ scientists taking a hard look at the evidence, and isn’t that what we always said we wanted?

@Hapa

While I am no fan of Bill Maher in general, (mostly due to his ‘stretching the facts’ to make a more obvious point) I think LIEumentary is going a bit far. (if you want to nail him for a bad movie use Cannibal Women in the Avocado Jungle of Death).

If someone wants to belief in something with no need of proof in the ‘real’ world that is entirely their prerogative, but please remember not everyone shares the same version of ‘faith’ and many of us do feel that religion (as opposed to faith) is a con game played against good people by the few who want power and money. This is exactly why I am so happy to see scientist finally say to Crypotozoology “show us what you got” and let the evidence speak for itself.

This is so obvious a display of arrogance, ignorance, and (considering his own research into Giganto) hypocrisy that it isn’t funny. Its comparable to some of the words used on both MSNBC and Fox News. This is just as faulty a dismissal of Yeti as Bill Maher’s usual diatribe dismissals against religion (The only differences: Bill Maher does it more often, adds humor, and made a LIEumentary called “Religulous” about his views).

The statement alone about Yeti hairs turning out to be Bison hairs is dangerously ignorant: Its on par with the News Media criticizing Sarah Palin for saying that the Vice President is the President of the Senate (article 1 section 3 of the US constitution clearly states (in one part of it) that the Vice President IS the president of the senate, and Michael Moore’s Farenheit 9/11 confirms it by stating that Al Gore, as Vice President, was also “President of the Senate”). Yeti hairs have never been confused with Bison hairs for the simple fact that BISON DO NOT LIVE IN THE HIMALAYAS! Wisents, the Old World Bison, lives in Poland and (I think) Ukraine, but never central Asia! Some DNA samples have proven to be bear, others human, and if i remember correctly, some have proven unknown. Never ever Bison! ARRRGH

Do people think that we are brainless? That we don’t read? That we don’t think for ourselves?