Comments on: Most Famous Celebrity Cryptozoology Event Ever!

By: kittenz

kittenz — Sat, 30 May 2009 23:10:34 +0000

There is nothing about this film that looks anything but phony.

By: Jeremy_Wells

Jeremy_Wells — Sat, 30 May 2009 19:57:21 +0000

This is the first time I’ve seen this video as well. But authenticity aside, I’d like to address the orgone accumulator idea.
While it’s intriguing, I think we’re more on the right track going with the tendency of these structures to be on the periphery of society, closer to woodlands, being the main reason they seem to attract curious ‘squatch. It’s the simplest, most logical explanation.
Now, as to the sexual aspect, there were women on location, and we have documented proof of the other great apes displaying sexual interest in human females. Orangutans especially, as Dr. Birute Galdikas herself has reported. So it wouldn’t be surprising that a Sasquatch might also display such interest.
As to the MQ episode Karl references, those are actually made from a variety of primate sexual pheromones, gathered during menstruation. The idea being that, based on the interest expressed by other great apes in cross-species sex pheromones, something in the mix might appeal to an unknown American great ape. Though I’m not 100% sure of the procedure, I’d guess the secretions are collected in a professional, sterile, clinical environment; possibly from paid participants in clinical studies, etc. (not too different from selling your plasma).
I had one shoved under my nose one time by a wise-cracking friend one time on one of this return trips from the field, and I can attest to their potency, even after weeks of hanging in the weather. They stink STRONG.
Interesting question about the menstruation too. Although I can understand the reluctance on the part of some folks to publicly share such personal details, it could be rather relevant. Although its not widely reported, for the sake of the witnesses propriety; I’ve heard of a few cases where the women in homes with sighting reports were either in the midst of, ready to begin, or had recently completed their cycle.

By: kgehrman

kgehrman — Sat, 30 May 2009 01:38:35 +0000

I think Alligator and dogu4 make a good point. I have never seen this video before, because I actually dismissed it when it was called the "Playmate Video" and never viewed it. I thought it was a Playboy hoax to hype a movie/video release. Now that I have seen it, I am a bit curious. If what I am seeing is a Sasquatch wiggly bobbing in the night, there is something very apelike about it. I had always envisioned that the penis would be very human-like in nature (not that I spend a lot of time thinking about such things), but I have wondered about the male genitalia after reading Jan Klement's The Creature and tales of the 1850 Russian Zana babe Almasty that apparently had sexual intercourse with several T'khina village folk after she was provided with sufficient drink. What I see on the video (if it is a penis and not something the beast is carrying in it's hand) appears to be a very ape-like variety of a penis (not human genitalia). A penis that would have something called a baculum. As to why this penis would rear its ugly head in the presence of a Playboy Bunny brings me back to Alligator and dogu4 points. I'm talking pheromones here. Were Anna-Marie or any other female in the RV ovulating at the time of the "incident"? Was this the attractant that lured the beast to the RV? I think I once saw a MQ episode where some guy actually hung "patented" chips of his own invention from tree branches to attract BF. Inside the chips were "scents" of women engaged in overt menstruation. I had to laugh when I heard this when I envisioned this guy asking women for their "scents" during the specific time needed for the chip creation. So here is what I would like someone other than me to ask Anna-Marie or any other female that was in that RV: Were you menstruating?

By: dogu4

dogu4 — Fri, 29 May 2009 21:22:42 +0000

Human’s are unique among the apes for any number of strengths and weaknesses as far as our abilities and for all the hyperawareness we are when we are consciously dealing with ourown sexuality it is primarily from the social cues, whereas in most other primates there can be no doubt that smell plays a really significant role, which is an area in which most humans are all but oblivious, but which behavioral research and neurological studies show are actively engaged on the subconscious level, and perhaps signalling even on the endocrinological level, even if social constraints prevent them from being recognized let alone acted upon.
Now here’s a camper filled with what have to be described as sexually aware adults whose very presence there is a reflection of their enhanced sexual awareness. I wouldn’t be surprised that even if every person in that camper wasn’t creating a signal different from the regular bunch of campers whose subliminal signals aren’t typically so sexually charged as this group of highly visual film-makers would be.
Of course everything we talk about with BF is speculative but keeping it within the range of traits we find among our primate relatives, I do wonder if BF’s sense of smell and the signals they emit and recongnize communicate on a level that’s far more significant than we give them credit for and that we mistaken presume that they are kinda like “us” in sexual behaviors as well…whatever “us” means and when one surveys the sexual attitudes of humans cross culturally we see that “us” is a pretty small island in the stream of human history.

By: cryptidsrus

cryptidsrus — Fri, 29 May 2009 20:00:01 +0000

Red_Pill_Junkie:

I’m with you there, buddy.
Folklore history is full of Females attracting the Beast and maybe “taming” it.
One that readily comes to mind is the story of the Unicorn and the Virgin. My choice for that is for Miley Cyrus to lure it out.

DWA:

To be honest—I personally believe in the Redwoods video (like I stated before) but I also totally understand why many don’t buy it. I mean, to be fair—it does sort of remind one of a Bad Porno Flick, doesn’t it???
Actually, I think there might actually be a porno with a “plot” like that somewhere. Guy in Bigfoot cutome does it with nubile young sexpot.
NOT that I would really truly know anything about that, of course.

Anyway…;)
That WAS a good point you made. I also agree with your take on Sasquatch Females.
Who would have thought—Ole Hairy is like most of the rest of us, eh??? Ha-ha-ha.

By: DWA

DWA — Fri, 29 May 2009 18:29:00 +0000

re: sschaper’s comment. One thing I guess I can give this video is the shakiness. People trying to simulate that just can’t get it right.

‘spose now that you could also say that a trained film crew would know how to get that ‘right’ for a fake.

But Patterson-Gimlin has many other details that lend it authenticity – something that this one has problems with, as far as I’m concerned.

By: sschaper

sschaper — Fri, 29 May 2009 18:14:22 +0000

Several thoughts:
Here is a trained film crew, and they don’t focus or hold the camera steady when facing sudden shock, either.

A prank on the actress seems far more likely.

That is quite an angle looking down on the figure. If bigfoot is at least six feet tall, then they must be at what 12-18 feet in that RV? is that reasonable? No Winnebago I know of would give you that angle.

Hard to tell, but a -circumcised- sasquatch? I guess we know they aren’t Philistines. . .

The reaction of the people in the RV is believable, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t being hoaxed.

By: ARO

ARO — Fri, 29 May 2009 17:42:44 +0000

Im not to sure about this one…………. first of all his um (noodle) is kinda small for an 8 ft tall creature and also he sure seems to be moving slow for an animal that is spooked. To me he just looks like a puppet from sessame street I mean look how shaggy he is.

By: Alligator

Alligator — Fri, 29 May 2009 17:28:27 +0000

The male appendages of gorillas, chimps and orangutans are small, thin and taper to a point compared to humans. If you are at a zoo when the apes are “performing” with their mates the starling thing is not their behavior but to see how the males are endowed in comparison to their overall body size. An adult gorilla is only an inch and half to two inches long. An orangutan I saw was considerably longer but still very thin and tapered.

So if the Redwoods video is genuine, the hominid’s “Mr. Happy” (if that’s what it is) would not be uncharacteristic for a great ape. Were there other women present in the trailer? Clowning around (and King Kongism) aside, a primate would probably not react like to human female like a human male would on the basis that she was a hot looking babe. “Attraction” would be driven by pheromones, etc.

By: TheForthcoming

TheForthcoming — Fri, 29 May 2009 17:27:51 +0000

Excellent bigfoot footage… I guess???…