Comments on: New Rash of Mothman-Linked Deaths

By: lamarkable

lamarkable — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:42:53 +0000

One only has to think of a curse, which in of itself, is dependant on a premeditated formulation arising from the sender to the recipiant, and then ask yourself what possible motive would there be, or more accurately, what is the perverse benefit to the sender? One would have to be familiar with the senders emotional state which is presumably negative toward the “victims”, which assumes there is an emotional pathological component that is preexisting which is a stretch on top of several similar ones. This is more of a projection of fear of a free floating all powerful intent targeting the participants after the movie has long since passed into dvd history. If you are going to knock off participants one would think it would be done during production, rather than drib and drab them here and there, which is rather an obvious indication that there are only mundane forces at work here. If a supernatural power is at play, it’s a pretty pathetic one.

By: Lakota1965

Lakota1965 — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:41:06 +0000

I live just up river from Point Pleasant, and I find some of the happenings here of late, especially since the movie, to be very disturbing. When the movie first came out I really thought I would like to pop down there and check things out. We used to drive through there all the time when I was younger so you would think it wouldn’t bother me to go down there, but something just kept me from going, and I have a feeling I probably never will. I tend now to avoid Point Pleasant when I go south.

I’m so sorry all of these families have experienced losses, and my heart goes out to them.

By: benihana

benihana — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:26:54 +0000

I’m going to have to agree with vjmurphy here. Unless, of course, Loren has set up strict guidelines as to what makes someone connected to the Mothman “laboratory.” The sister of a guy from Maryland who made a Mothman statue died. That’s not a laboratory sample, that’s someone totally unrelated to Mothman.

People dying natural deaths in their 80s are mentioned. Something paranormal might be going on if these people were actually living forever, but dying of old age is hardly a curse.

Also, Point Pleasant’s big claim to fame is Mothman and the bridge accident. So surely many people in the city will be connected to Mothman through their livelihood. People who work in Detroit die, but there’s no “General Motors Curse.”

I haven’t actually seen a serious statistical analysis, just a list of deaths and someone saying “It’s significant.” Even Loren’s rebuttal to vjmurphy didn’t actually address any of his points, just repeating that there’s a curse without offering any reason to believe. There’s data right there, it wouldn’t be too hard to figure out if something statistically significant was going on. It’s the same as determining if nuclear testing decades ago lead to higher incidences of cancer and birth defects.

You can argue that Loren lacks the funding to carry out a real analysis of the data, but that simply means that he has no reason aside from a gut reaction to believe any curse actually exists. And that’s certainly no reason for everyone else to believe him.

By: Granny Meg

Granny Meg — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:05:18 +0000

Sad news to hear of so many deaths in the area.

I have always wondered if the Mothman shares some characteristics of the Black Dog and the Black Horse of English and Irish legends. They all seem to be seen before disasters, presage deaths, and to hang about in seismically active areas. Is there any indication that deaths in general have gone up in the area? What about seismic indicators such as human stress and animal behavior? Is the USGS monitoring the area? Have classical UFO reports been made?

Or are there indications that this is specifically connected with the group of persons most aware of and active in investigating this creature?

I hope Loren has the time and energy to comment further.

Thanks.

By: razortalon

razortalon — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:52:02 +0000

Oh come on now!! You’ve taken normal everyday occurances and turned it into something extremely ridiculous!!

By: lamarkable

lamarkable — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 03:37:04 +0000

Death is not a supernatural nor a paranormal event. Giving credit to a theoretical curse from a theoretical creature for an unknown purpose is an mildly entertaining house of cards being played without much respect for the families of those who have passed, or the deceased themselves. There is no curse except one that manifests itself in the circular logic of mythology. The smoke that obscures critical thinking can burn you if you get too close to the source.

By: windigo

windigo — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 01:53:01 +0000

Loren, I appreciate and respect your input, but I’m a little bit puzzled. Your assertion that all of this may amount to more than a subconcious fear of the unknown does not fit with my interpretation of your beliefs on cryptids, in general. I have read all that you have to offer on the subject of Sasquatch and I am well aware that you very much wish not to enter the world of, “High Strangeness” when dealing with explanations of the creatures abilities/existence. However, I somewhat feel you are willing, in a comparable way, to venture down this avenue of thought with Mothman. I realize they are different topics, but I can’t help but feel that a discrepancy may exsist. I would welcome your clarification on this, and I apologize if my beliefs are incorrect.

By: greatanarch

greatanarch — Sun, 15 Apr 2007 18:50:33 +0000

A man dies at 85! A woman hits a deer in her SUV! (no injury). This Mothman is bad medicine. I went looking for the Mongolian Deathworm, and only 9 months later someone reversed into me in a supermarket car park in Surrey. How scary is that?

By: Double Naught Spy

Double Naught Spy — Sun, 15 Apr 2007 18:20:10 +0000

Well, we have certainly seen some excellent examples of “whistliing past the graveyard” here. The whole Mothman episode contains a lot of very weird events. The more you look at it, the harder it is to rationalize it away. That doesn’t keep some psuedoscientists from trying. Thanks for having the courage to ask the hard questions, Loren.

By: harleyb

harleyb — Sun, 15 Apr 2007 17:26:28 +0000

I believe the mothman creature would fear garlic or maybe purple onions, try cutting them up some time, make you cry like a baby.