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		<title>By: CactusJumper</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/new-crop-bfers/#comment-12281</link>
		<dc:creator>CactusJumper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 00:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I don't know what you'd consider me..  Not even quite sure what I consider myself..  I'd like to think I'm pretty versed on the matter of Sasquatch in particular..  I'm in my mid-thirties..  I would like to think the approach I take on CZ in general is open minded and open to possibilities..  But this isn't about how I believe or what I believe or my opinion on things.  I'm sort of a loner when it comes to this and I don't really have any friends or acquaintances how are interested in this subject like I am..  Of course they are absolutely fascinated when I give them a "lecture" CZ and BigFoot in particular..  I guess it could be said that there are a number of pompous assed individuals out there who for some reason think that only their research and theories are valid and anyone else's leaves room for debate..  And as I start to get more and more involved in researching information online, it seems like there's politics involved in so many different aspects of this research..  I'd rather stay out of the politics and concentrate on the facts..  My corner stone of knowledge is based in the people who pioneered the research: Grover Krantz, Loren Coleman, etc...  And some newcomers like Jeff Meldrum..  I truly admire this man for is mild-mannered approach..  I'm sure that he is ridiculed from time to time..  But he is one of the  main supporters of the fact that there IS scientific evidence that NEEDS to be investigated and taken seriously by science!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;d consider me..  Not even quite sure what I consider myself..  I&#8217;d like to think I&#8217;m pretty versed on the matter of Sasquatch in particular..  I&#8217;m in my mid-thirties..  I would like to think the approach I take on CZ in general is open minded and open to possibilities..  But this isn&#8217;t about how I believe or what I believe or my opinion on things.  I&#8217;m sort of a loner when it comes to this and I don&#8217;t really have any friends or acquaintances how are interested in this subject like I am..  Of course they are absolutely fascinated when I give them a &#8220;lecture&#8221; CZ and BigFoot in particular..  I guess it could be said that there are a number of pompous assed individuals out there who for some reason think that only their research and theories are valid and anyone else&#8217;s leaves room for debate..  And as I start to get more and more involved in researching information online, it seems like there&#8217;s politics involved in so many different aspects of this research..  I&#8217;d rather stay out of the politics and concentrate on the facts..  My corner stone of knowledge is based in the people who pioneered the research: Grover Krantz, Loren Coleman, etc&#8230;  And some newcomers like Jeff Meldrum..  I truly admire this man for is mild-mannered approach..  I&#8217;m sure that he is ridiculed from time to time..  But he is one of the  main supporters of the fact that there IS scientific evidence that NEEDS to be investigated and taken seriously by science!</p>
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		<title>By: Mnynames</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/new-crop-bfers/#comment-12280</link>
		<dc:creator>Mnynames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 21:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Loren, not really trying to defend my age bracket here, as whatever age I've been I've usually found my peers to be mostly a bunch of incompetant dolts that reveled in their ignorance, but thin-skinned egomaniacs can be found of all ages...just think of the recent stink with M. K. Davis and other rows of their kind.

I suppose I should also add that, in my observation, you are one of the calmest and patient people in the field of CZ, particularly when some crazy is yelling at you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Loren, not really trying to defend my age bracket here, as whatever age I&#8217;ve been I&#8217;ve usually found my peers to be mostly a bunch of incompetant dolts that reveled in their ignorance, but thin-skinned egomaniacs can be found of all ages&#8230;just think of the recent stink with M. K. Davis and other rows of their kind.</p>
<p>I suppose I should also add that, in my observation, you are one of the calmest and patient people in the field of CZ, particularly when some crazy is yelling at you.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete.Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/new-crop-bfers/#comment-12279</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete.Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the problem with today's younger crowd is the society in which we find ourselves.  Everyone wants instant gratification, instant fame and nobody wants to put the effort/time/money into searching for something that may take years.  Patience is not a redeeming quality by many these days.  I would say life is short, enjoy the search and savor all the moments along the way and never give up on the goal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the problem with today&#8217;s younger crowd is the society in which we find ourselves.  Everyone wants instant gratification, instant fame and nobody wants to put the effort/time/money into searching for something that may take years.  Patience is not a redeeming quality by many these days.  I would say life is short, enjoy the search and savor all the moments along the way and never give up on the goal.</p>
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		<title>By: vet72</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/new-crop-bfers/#comment-12278</link>
		<dc:creator>vet72</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 03:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What it comes down to is whether you're a "baby boomer" or "generation xer" is that we all have the insatiable desire, drive, determination and hunger for the quest of the unknown.

Back in the "good old days", which I fondly cherish, the groundwork for this particular field of work was pioneered by such icons as Heuvelmans, Krantz, Green and Coleman (with apologies to those whom I neglected to mention). They received their large share of ridicule and criticism but that came with the job. They "weathered" that storm particularly well but not entirely unscathed. The ridicule and criticism will always be there for the hardy veterans and the young guns of today.

Though modern technology does make it easier to do the necessary research, I don't think it diminishes the desire for any particular person if they're willing to stay the course. The ability to take that criticism no matter how harsh it may seem only makes the desire to succeed that much greater. I've seen and heard it all throughout my life and it's never any easier but it's important and necessary to keep your feelings, beliefs and objectives in perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What it comes down to is whether you&#8217;re a &#8220;baby boomer&#8221; or &#8220;generation xer&#8221; is that we all have the insatiable desire, drive, determination and hunger for the quest of the unknown.</p>
<p>Back in the &#8220;good old days&#8221;, which I fondly cherish, the groundwork for this particular field of work was pioneered by such icons as Heuvelmans, Krantz, Green and Coleman (with apologies to those whom I neglected to mention). They received their large share of ridicule and criticism but that came with the job. They &#8220;weathered&#8221; that storm particularly well but not entirely unscathed. The ridicule and criticism will always be there for the hardy veterans and the young guns of today.</p>
<p>Though modern technology does make it easier to do the necessary research, I don&#8217;t think it diminishes the desire for any particular person if they&#8217;re willing to stay the course. The ability to take that criticism no matter how harsh it may seem only makes the desire to succeed that much greater. I&#8217;ve seen and heard it all throughout my life and it&#8217;s never any easier but it&#8217;s important and necessary to keep your feelings, beliefs and objectives in perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: toolmaker</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/new-crop-bfers/#comment-12277</link>
		<dc:creator>toolmaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loren, I think you said it first and best in your earlier essay. Anyone, regardless of age, that enters into the bigfoot research community had darn well better have a thick hide.

Regardless of the instant notoriety and equally instant criticisms to be found on the Internet, eventually if they go out into the field they'll run into someone who will simply laugh in their face. It will not come as a "frowny emoticon" or even a thoughtfully written criticism.

Some folks are simply going to laugh at you. At you, personally. And laugh loudly.

How many of us have had this experience and still pursued our research? I would imagine almost all of us over-40 types have been greeted in this manner more than once.

This goes a long way in winnowing the wheat from the chaff. The tougher ones will learn when and where they can and carry on. Ego-trippers expecting their names in headlines by next week will find some other pursuit. (Well, the majority of them will.)

Any first year student in geology, chemistry, physics, or zoology who goes in and starts correcting his or her professors will quickly have a house dropped on them. While questions and new theories are readily welcomed both here and in the classroom, it's not a wise idea to march in twirling your guns and telling everyone you're the fastest gun in the West. There are always a few who are faster. Always.

During the years I have been actively involved with research, nothing has changed more often than my opinions of bigfoot. Not my taste in food, vehicles, women, movies, friends, music, or any other field. I can't count the times that I have been called on the carpet by folks more wise and experienced. Whether their criticisms were harsh or mild, I came away smarter, looking at the problem from a different angle, and often armed with knowledge I did not have before.

Anyone who lets a series of phosphorescent letters on a computer screen get under their hides will have REAL difficulty when four or five folks are standing around laughing openly at them. Nowadays, I laugh with them and admit that it IS a pretty strange hobby, and no, I don't have all the answers. More often that not the laughing slowly stops--and someone will begin to ask me serious questions.

The younger folks have many tremendous advantages that we did not in our earlier years; 4x4's that will take them quickly into the wilderness while carrying heavy loads, Google, Wikipedia, a host of bigfoot conferences where they can communicate with experienced researchers, cell phones, improved radio communications, wireless laptops, GPS systems, night vision, and a galaxy of highly improved camping gear. There is NO REASON they cannot match and surpass the efforts of the generation before them, and even before that. There are still more questions than answers. None of us know all there is to know about these creatures, in fact many of the most important issues are still a total mystery.

They have much at their command that we did not. But they're going to need what comes from within themselves to make it of any use to them. Courage, die-hard determination, the ability to withstand setback after setback, and the inner strength to take a hit now and then, deserved or not.

This is no job for whiners.

Kent</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loren, I think you said it first and best in your earlier essay. Anyone, regardless of age, that enters into the bigfoot research community had darn well better have a thick hide.</p>
<p>Regardless of the instant notoriety and equally instant criticisms to be found on the Internet, eventually if they go out into the field they&#8217;ll run into someone who will simply laugh in their face. It will not come as a &#8220;frowny emoticon&#8221; or even a thoughtfully written criticism.</p>
<p>Some folks are simply going to laugh at you. At you, personally. And laugh loudly.</p>
<p>How many of us have had this experience and still pursued our research? I would imagine almost all of us over-40 types have been greeted in this manner more than once.</p>
<p>This goes a long way in winnowing the wheat from the chaff. The tougher ones will learn when and where they can and carry on. Ego-trippers expecting their names in headlines by next week will find some other pursuit. (Well, the majority of them will.)</p>
<p>Any first year student in geology, chemistry, physics, or zoology who goes in and starts correcting his or her professors will quickly have a house dropped on them. While questions and new theories are readily welcomed both here and in the classroom, it&#8217;s not a wise idea to march in twirling your guns and telling everyone you&#8217;re the fastest gun in the West. There are always a few who are faster. Always.</p>
<p>During the years I have been actively involved with research, nothing has changed more often than my opinions of bigfoot. Not my taste in food, vehicles, women, movies, friends, music, or any other field. I can&#8217;t count the times that I have been called on the carpet by folks more wise and experienced. Whether their criticisms were harsh or mild, I came away smarter, looking at the problem from a different angle, and often armed with knowledge I did not have before.</p>
<p>Anyone who lets a series of phosphorescent letters on a computer screen get under their hides will have REAL difficulty when four or five folks are standing around laughing openly at them. Nowadays, I laugh with them and admit that it IS a pretty strange hobby, and no, I don&#8217;t have all the answers. More often that not the laughing slowly stops&#8211;and someone will begin to ask me serious questions.</p>
<p>The younger folks have many tremendous advantages that we did not in our earlier years; 4&#215;4&#8217;s that will take them quickly into the wilderness while carrying heavy loads, Google, Wikipedia, a host of bigfoot conferences where they can communicate with experienced researchers, cell phones, improved radio communications, wireless laptops, GPS systems, night vision, and a galaxy of highly improved camping gear. There is NO REASON they cannot match and surpass the efforts of the generation before them, and even before that. There are still more questions than answers. None of us know all there is to know about these creatures, in fact many of the most important issues are still a total mystery.</p>
<p>They have much at their command that we did not. But they&#8217;re going to need what comes from within themselves to make it of any use to them. Courage, die-hard determination, the ability to withstand setback after setback, and the inner strength to take a hit now and then, deserved or not.</p>
<p>This is no job for whiners.</p>
<p>Kent</p>
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		<title>By: LSU_Crypto</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/new-crop-bfers/#comment-12276</link>
		<dc:creator>LSU_Crypto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, let me add the mentioned fellow apparently does not understand the scientific process.

In the scientific community dissenting theories are discussed and shot down in conference when all data is analyzed.  That seems to be what happened here.  He stated a dissenting hypothesis, and other researchers shot it down based on collected evidence.  An understanding of the scientific is a must if cryptozoology is to ever come into the mainstream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, let me add the mentioned fellow apparently does not understand the scientific process.</p>
<p>In the scientific community dissenting theories are discussed and shot down in conference when all data is analyzed.  That seems to be what happened here.  He stated a dissenting hypothesis, and other researchers shot it down based on collected evidence.  An understanding of the scientific is a must if cryptozoology is to ever come into the mainstream.</p>
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		<title>By: LSU_Crypto</title>
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		<dc:creator>LSU_Crypto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems this has less to do with the guy's age, and more to do with his being a jerk.  I'm a young guy, and I love you old farts.

j/k (about the old farts, not about loving you)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems this has less to do with the guy&#8217;s age, and more to do with his being a jerk.  I&#8217;m a young guy, and I love you old farts.</p>
<p>j/k (about the old farts, not about loving you)</p>
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		<title>By: skeptik</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/new-crop-bfers/#comment-12274</link>
		<dc:creator>skeptik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has got to do with personal traits and not a difference between generations. We all know there are some people who, without a little self-help, are unable to take criticism; viz. they take it personally.

But I think, in general, the attention span and level of patience has shrunk. That means that someone who is out looking for instant approval of his or her own views won't try to debate, but simply change community, if faced with difficulties.

An interesting thought, though. The PG film has become a sort of media/evidence backbone of BF research and interest. Will we see a decline of interest/increase of ridicule if no "new PG film" can be provided?

The memory of the PG film and the importance of it, might not survive that long in a short attention-span media world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has got to do with personal traits and not a difference between generations. We all know there are some people who, without a little self-help, are unable to take criticism; viz. they take it personally.</p>
<p>But I think, in general, the attention span and level of patience has shrunk. That means that someone who is out looking for instant approval of his or her own views won&#8217;t try to debate, but simply change community, if faced with difficulties.</p>
<p>An interesting thought, though. The PG film has become a sort of media/evidence backbone of BF research and interest. Will we see a decline of interest/increase of ridicule if no &#8220;new PG film&#8221; can be provided?</p>
<p>The memory of the PG film and the importance of it, might not survive that long in a short attention-span media world.</p>
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		<title>By: mystery_man</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/new-crop-bfers/#comment-12273</link>
		<dc:creator>mystery_man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am 33 myself, and I think a lot of the difference lies in the difference of technology and the effect that this might have on the way people approach things.  The internet, blogs, and whatnot are increasing the speed by which all this information is transferred. It is also easier to do quick research by "googling" it, achieving in a few minutes what would have taken a day down at the library back in the old days. And since the younger generation have basically grown up with this kind of technology, I feel it makes them more impatient and eager for instant gratification. It is unfortunate that there are people out there behaving in this way, but overall I think some new ideas and fresh perspectives are ultimately good for the field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am 33 myself, and I think a lot of the difference lies in the difference of technology and the effect that this might have on the way people approach things.  The internet, blogs, and whatnot are increasing the speed by which all this information is transferred. It is also easier to do quick research by &#8220;googling&#8221; it, achieving in a few minutes what would have taken a day down at the library back in the old days. And since the younger generation have basically grown up with this kind of technology, I feel it makes them more impatient and eager for instant gratification. It is unfortunate that there are people out there behaving in this way, but overall I think some new ideas and fresh perspectives are ultimately good for the field.</p>
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		<title>By: Mfdcapt4</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mfdcapt4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was born the year of the PG film.  I am 39 and feel that the younger crowd tends to be impatient and the older crowd set in their ways.  I'm sure there is a middle road, and once unarguable proof is displayed, that middle ground will narrow quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was born the year of the PG film.  I am 39 and feel that the younger crowd tends to be impatient and the older crowd set in their ways.  I&#8217;m sure there is a middle road, and once unarguable proof is displayed, that middle ground will narrow quickly.</p>
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