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		<title>By: cavenam01</title>
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		<dc:creator>cavenam01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The snake in the upper picture is a fake. If you look at the surrounding terrain and compare the snake against it you would be looking at a snake of some three hundred feet. The head by its self is as large as some of those tree tops. A snake that large could not exist for if no other reason than it&#039;s own body weight would crush it&#039;s internal organs. it&#039;s weight would have to be several tons and that&#039;s just if you scale it by the growth ratio of modern pythons and boas. The rivers in Borneo are mangrove rivers for the most part they are wide and swampy and not really deep so finding deep enough water to help support it&#039;s girth would be nearly impossible. It takes a snake of that type many years just to get twenty feet long so unless that&#039;s the Moses of pythons and is four or five hundred years old it&#039;s fake.  Now I have no problem seeing a very old python of some type reaching thirty or possibly even forty feet like the one photographed from the chopper in the fifties. Possibly a rock python or some unknown type of offshoot from the reticulated family. Even that has it&#039;s limits though. As far as this snake being an anaconda species a twelve foot anaconda if well fed can weigh a hundred pounds so you do the math. Like I said it&#039;s own body weight would crush it. It&#039;s a hell of a notion a several hundred foot snake it&#039;s just not very realistic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The snake in the upper picture is a fake. If you look at the surrounding terrain and compare the snake against it you would be looking at a snake of some three hundred feet. The head by its self is as large as some of those tree tops. A snake that large could not exist for if no other reason than it&#8217;s own body weight would crush it&#8217;s internal organs. it&#8217;s weight would have to be several tons and that&#8217;s just if you scale it by the growth ratio of modern pythons and boas. The rivers in Borneo are mangrove rivers for the most part they are wide and swampy and not really deep so finding deep enough water to help support it&#8217;s girth would be nearly impossible. It takes a snake of that type many years just to get twenty feet long so unless that&#8217;s the Moses of pythons and is four or five hundred years old it&#8217;s fake.  Now I have no problem seeing a very old python of some type reaching thirty or possibly even forty feet like the one photographed from the chopper in the fifties. Possibly a rock python or some unknown type of offshoot from the reticulated family. Even that has it&#8217;s limits though. As far as this snake being an anaconda species a twelve foot anaconda if well fed can weigh a hundred pounds so you do the math. Like I said it&#8217;s own body weight would crush it. It&#8217;s a hell of a notion a several hundred foot snake it&#8217;s just not very realistic.</p>
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		<title>By: samsamall</title>
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		<dc:creator>samsamall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 04:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The photographer should take it more than one photo to prove it&#039;s the real snake, but actually this is fake photo produced by Photoshop!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The photographer should take it more than one photo to prove it&#8217;s the real snake, but actually this is fake photo produced by Photoshop!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: inbetween</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Doctor Atlantis on everything, every point he made is exactly correct and is the exact reason to these are fakes. The last photo, the said to be taken from a helicopter is very interesting and using the good doctor&#039;s logic it becomes more interesting, mostly it just looks right, It&#039;s acting like a snake would act. I have no doubt that there is a fifty foot or even larger snake out there, we just have to keep looking. I have never been to Africa for any reason let alone snake hunting, but I have spent a good bit of time doing just that in south America. So far nothing that you couldn&#039;t see in just about any zoo. However, if you stick to the straight logic of Doctor Atlantis, it really weeds this crap out fast.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Doctor Atlantis on everything, every point he made is exactly correct and is the exact reason to these are fakes. The last photo, the said to be taken from a helicopter is very interesting and using the good doctor&#8217;s logic it becomes more interesting, mostly it just looks right, It&#8217;s acting like a snake would act. I have no doubt that there is a fifty foot or even larger snake out there, we just have to keep looking. I have never been to Africa for any reason let alone snake hunting, but I have spent a good bit of time doing just that in south America. So far nothing that you couldn&#8217;t see in just about any zoo. However, if you stick to the straight logic of Doctor Atlantis, it really weeds this crap out fast.</p>
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		<title>By: topgun911</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 07:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hoax!!

Check this out, the original image without photoshop effect, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sibu.org/kn/attachment/Mon_0902/74_1_8872bdd531ee3bc.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;!!!

The original post come from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.alovelyworld.com/webequa/htmgb/equa11.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

Rio Napo begins its source in the Ecuadorian Andes and flows into the Amazon river. Giant alligators, lizards, turtles and snakes (boa, anaconda...) live in this river. 

The photo with the village in the foreground come from Amazon River ~~~~ not Rejang.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hoax!!</p>
<p>Check this out, the original image without photoshop effect, <a href="http://www.sibu.org/kn/attachment/Mon_0902/74_1_8872bdd531ee3bc.jpg" rel="nofollow">here</a>!!!</p>
<p>The original post come from <a href="http://www.alovelyworld.com/webequa/htmgb/equa11.htm" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>Rio Napo begins its source in the Ecuadorian Andes and flows into the Amazon river. Giant alligators, lizards, turtles and snakes (boa, anaconda&#8230;) live in this river. </p>
<p>The photo with the village in the foreground come from Amazon River ~~~~ not Rejang.</p>
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		<title>By: Dj Plasmic Nebula</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dj Plasmic Nebula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 03:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well that&#039;s good we all get to see the Object

cause one day if we find out it&#039;s real, and the pictures are gone, we get to say &quot;I seen that snake on the internet&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well that&#8217;s good we all get to see the Object</p>
<p>cause one day if we find out it&#8217;s real, and the pictures are gone, we get to say &#8220;I seen that snake on the internet&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jdillard71</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[its easy to spot a fake/illusion, But i really think that Remy Van Lierde&#039;s photo hold&#039;s up well to the test of time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its easy to spot a fake/illusion, But i really think that Remy Van Lierde&#8217;s photo hold&#8217;s up well to the test of time.</p>
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		<title>By: fuzzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>fuzzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps the first photo is a pun - isn&#039;t that a &quot;serpentine curve&quot; thru which it just swam?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the first photo is a pun &#8211; isn&#8217;t that a &#8220;serpentine curve&#8221; thru which it just swam?</p>
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		<title>By: mystery_man</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, I mistyped. I meant to say &quot;greater volume to surface area ratio&quot; in my post above when describing the way gigantothermy works, not the other way around. Or you could say lesser surface area to volume ratio.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I mistyped. I meant to say &#8220;greater volume to surface area ratio&#8221; in my post above when describing the way gigantothermy works, not the other way around. Or you could say lesser surface area to volume ratio.</p>
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		<title>By: mystery_man</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[kolobe- I&#039;m not sure that maintaining body temperature is necessarily going to be as big a problem for a snake of truly huge proportions. 

Exceptionally large ectotherms (animals that do not produce their own heat, like reptiles), can display gigantothermy. What essentially happens is that there is a greater surface to volume ratio in these very large animals, which translates in them being able to maintain relatively high body temperatures compared to smaller animals with a similar shape. 

This means that giant snakes much larger than those African pythons you mentioned are going to actually have less of a problem with losing body heat, since gigantotherms lose heat to the environment at a slower rate than smaller animals. Staying in the water would also not pose as much of a problem for the same reason. 

Gigantotherms lose heat to and gain heat from the environment at a slower rate than similar animals of a smaller size. This effect allows some ectotherms to remain warm in cold environments, as well as preventing overheating in the tropics. Ectotherms that display gigantothermy actually have body temperatures and metabolic rates similar to endotherms such as mammals. 

So basically these alleged giant snakes might be spared some of the heating problems you mention by the very virtue of being huge.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kolobe- I&#8217;m not sure that maintaining body temperature is necessarily going to be as big a problem for a snake of truly huge proportions. </p>
<p>Exceptionally large ectotherms (animals that do not produce their own heat, like reptiles), can display gigantothermy. What essentially happens is that there is a greater surface to volume ratio in these very large animals, which translates in them being able to maintain relatively high body temperatures compared to smaller animals with a similar shape. </p>
<p>This means that giant snakes much larger than those African pythons you mentioned are going to actually have less of a problem with losing body heat, since gigantotherms lose heat to the environment at a slower rate than smaller animals. Staying in the water would also not pose as much of a problem for the same reason. </p>
<p>Gigantotherms lose heat to and gain heat from the environment at a slower rate than similar animals of a smaller size. This effect allows some ectotherms to remain warm in cold environments, as well as preventing overheating in the tropics. Ectotherms that display gigantothermy actually have body temperatures and metabolic rates similar to endotherms such as mammals. </p>
<p>So basically these alleged giant snakes might be spared some of the heating problems you mention by the very virtue of being huge.</p>
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		<title>By: kolobe</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Red Pill Junkie  African pythons and other large snakes from the boa family can and do hibernate (stay dormant) after a large meal.  Pythons have been recorded not eating for 9 months after a large meal has been digested.  This would also depend on wether its a male or a feamle and weather she is breeding or not.  All LARGE African pythons are female and they will not eat while breeding.  Although they do not incubate their eggs they stay curled around them to protect the eggs and do not feed till the off spring have left the nest.  They also stay with the youngsters for a while and still do not feed.  A female will feed as often as possible there after to bring herself into condition to breed (mate) and this can take as long as 3 years to build up condition, depending on availbility of prey.  Some asian pythons incubate their eggs by moving and building up heat, but again will not feed till the youngsters have left.

Alligator thanks, I stay (operate) in the Limpopo Province of South Africa and am a hunter which offers me a lot of time in the bush.  I often come across and view pythons in the wild.  The python you referd to was just over 4m long and it was disappointing as they had stayed for two weeks in an area that was known to have gaint snakes.  The locals tend to exagerate the size of the snakes mainly due to fear.

Samson77, I am familiar with the photo taken in the Congo but as much as I want to, I cannot convince myself that the pic is anything other than a small snake in a stream, the water flowing is to fast and to white and clear and the rocks depicted in the photo would need to be the size buses even bigger if it were a river big enough to hold the size of the snake reported.  To me it still looks like a stream.  I am in constant contact with herps people and a friend studied pythons in the wild for 4 years.  His largest python observed or caught was 4.5m and the largest prey taken was a wild goose.  This in spending every day in the bush catching tagging and recording african pythons.
The asian pythons can exceeed an African Python in length and so can an ananconda.  But again, an anaconda over 5m will be a huge heavily built snake (pythons are not as robustly built as anacondas) and would spend as they do most of its time in water where it would be easier for it to move and protect it from predators, it would also be immobile most of the time to conserve body heat.  Pythons although spending a lot of time in water tend to stick to dry ground and lay in ambush of their prey, usually curled up and relying on camoflauge.  Can you imagine a 100ft snake laying curled up in ambush, its prey which is generally very alert to their surroundings would immdiately see it, just by the girthe and lenght of its body, its silhouhette would be all to visible.  To be invisible it would have to stay in water and you can imagine what havoc that would do to its heating system. It would have to leave the water constantly like a crocdile to build up its body tempreture.

Its not that I dont believe big snakes exist, its just that it becomes harder each day to believe they do.  I spend to much time viewing, catching and talking to others to be really convinced by any of the 3 photos.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red Pill Junkie  African pythons and other large snakes from the boa family can and do hibernate (stay dormant) after a large meal.  Pythons have been recorded not eating for 9 months after a large meal has been digested.  This would also depend on wether its a male or a feamle and weather she is breeding or not.  All LARGE African pythons are female and they will not eat while breeding.  Although they do not incubate their eggs they stay curled around them to protect the eggs and do not feed till the off spring have left the nest.  They also stay with the youngsters for a while and still do not feed.  A female will feed as often as possible there after to bring herself into condition to breed (mate) and this can take as long as 3 years to build up condition, depending on availbility of prey.  Some asian pythons incubate their eggs by moving and building up heat, but again will not feed till the youngsters have left.</p>
<p>Alligator thanks, I stay (operate) in the Limpopo Province of South Africa and am a hunter which offers me a lot of time in the bush.  I often come across and view pythons in the wild.  The python you referd to was just over 4m long and it was disappointing as they had stayed for two weeks in an area that was known to have gaint snakes.  The locals tend to exagerate the size of the snakes mainly due to fear.</p>
<p>Samson77, I am familiar with the photo taken in the Congo but as much as I want to, I cannot convince myself that the pic is anything other than a small snake in a stream, the water flowing is to fast and to white and clear and the rocks depicted in the photo would need to be the size buses even bigger if it were a river big enough to hold the size of the snake reported.  To me it still looks like a stream.  I am in constant contact with herps people and a friend studied pythons in the wild for 4 years.  His largest python observed or caught was 4.5m and the largest prey taken was a wild goose.  This in spending every day in the bush catching tagging and recording african pythons.<br />
The asian pythons can exceeed an African Python in length and so can an ananconda.  But again, an anaconda over 5m will be a huge heavily built snake (pythons are not as robustly built as anacondas) and would spend as they do most of its time in water where it would be easier for it to move and protect it from predators, it would also be immobile most of the time to conserve body heat.  Pythons although spending a lot of time in water tend to stick to dry ground and lay in ambush of their prey, usually curled up and relying on camoflauge.  Can you imagine a 100ft snake laying curled up in ambush, its prey which is generally very alert to their surroundings would immdiately see it, just by the girthe and lenght of its body, its silhouhette would be all to visible.  To be invisible it would have to stay in water and you can imagine what havoc that would do to its heating system. It would have to leave the water constantly like a crocdile to build up its body tempreture.</p>
<p>Its not that I dont believe big snakes exist, its just that it becomes harder each day to believe they do.  I spend to much time viewing, catching and talking to others to be really convinced by any of the 3 photos.</p>
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