Agreed, everything you said. In fact, I’m not sure anyone (who hasn’t seen one himself, and verified the resemblance) can be totally convinced of the authenticity of the Patterson film.

All of the evidence I’ve seen, I’ve seen secondhand at best. (OK, with one exception, which could easily have been something other than what it pretty clearly looked like.) It sure seems odd - odd stretching belief - that misinformation could behave the way the sasquatch evidence does. But absent better personal evidence, I have to hold open the possibility. As to P/G itself, that it’s a hoax is a notion that, given human nature, seems to stretch belief to the breaking point. But how many times have we seen evidence that, indeed, it really does take all kinds to make a world?

So, with you, I await better evidence. Which it will be hard to get as long as the media and the scientific community continue to think that the sideshows in this discussion are the main event.

As for PG, I’m not completely convinced it is real, but I’d say there is definitely a lot to point in that direction. Certainly it is not a proven hoax, yet a lot of people out there are under that impression.

As far as mistaken thoughts some have had of this being the end of the line for Bigfoot studies, I’d say the only thing this is the end of the line for is Biscardi’s tomfoolery.

- a variation of the Tusser quote I came up with while in college. I think the statement could apply both to Biscardi if he’s able to ultimately financially capitalize from his involvement - or to the two lunkheads from Georgia - if they don’t get their collective keisters sued into oblivion and can do the same.

I think what may be more fascinating than the story itself is the psychological effect it’s had on people. I’ve been a bigfoot enthusiast since I was a kid (thanks Mom!) but now more than ever I want to learn more to hopefully one day legitimize what I believe to be true - that bigfoot and so many more cryptids are flesh and blood living things. If Saquatchsicle hadn’t come along - I’m not sure I would have been so motivated. I think that the incident has had a polarizing effect overall. Those that believed before, believe even more. Those that didn’t are now, more than ever, saying, “See I told you so!”

Loren i forgive u for that one post because you put your credibility on the line, I put mine on the line with my friends …

… but its cool i saw your explanation

Its too bad… these guys have really cast a negative cloud on something that people are in general already skeptical about

Say it ain’t so! Say it ain’t! After all this time; all that well-reasoned skepticism; all those thoughtful posts…YOU, IN WITH BISCARDI on what has to be one of the worst, most puerile….

….um, er, ah, heh heh, wrong “Mystery Man”…heh heh sorry there…

And yeah, it’s real problematic that there are still so many people out there who think P/G has been proven a hoax. To get the depth of the public’s understanding of this topic, one need go no further. In the interest of education (and please do not contest this point, because you are wrong and it is pointless and let’s move on here): there is much evidence that P/G is the real thing. And not one shred yet produced that so much as hints that it is not.

That’s not belief talking. That’s evidence.

On to burying the biscardi, Rover. Woof!

You could say “I think it was a hoax.”, or “POSSIBLE (even ‘likely’ or ‘probable’ if that is your opinion) 1967 Patterson Hoax. But it’s a bit premature to go out labeling it as a famous hoax as if it is a foregone conclusion. As far as many cryptozoologists, and even some skeptics, are concerned, it is not. To this day the PG footage is the subject of investigation and intense discussion by many intellegent people on both sides of the fence.

I don’t mean to start up a debate on PG. I just thought I’d point this out.

-Thomas Tusser, ca. 16th century