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		<title>By: mark z</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the controversy of the validity of these very natural looking photos to be typical. The skunk ape in the photos is however I believe one of at least two separate species that wander the states swampy regions and very inaccessible cypress forests. In my research on these guys I have found that the ape in the Myakka photos matches exact descriptions of what seems to be an elder or very old ape of the variety that more resembles, in facial structure the orangutan. I have spoken to others and read at least three other eyewitness accounts that state that the creature had long gray hair, and looked more monkey like, than human. Then there are what I like to call the Swamp apes. Based on eye witness testimony, and photographic evidence including Davids' and the fire chief's photo, from the glades area, they appear to have much shorter arms and a more man-like shape in general. At least two different eye witness photos confirm this. I believe David's photos are genuine and he is not a fraud as some have stated.

The Myakka photos seem very natural to me and only a sense of innocence could prompt a the letter to the local authorities. I would like to know just how many homes are close enough to I-75 to prompt the "elderly woman" who sent the letter to the cops to worry about the thing causing traffic accidents and getting itself injured on the highway. Perhaps that is a lead into finding the elderly couple who wrote the letter? How many homes are close enough to I-75 In the area in question. maybe a thousand, maybe only 10. the area in question appears to be very underdeveloped on a topographic map. also I noticed several fruit orchards in the area, not just orange groves but guava farms and kiwi as well a vegetable farms.

The entire area around Myakka state parks 37,000 acre state park is a variable feast at all times of the year, with seasonal fruits and veggie farms sporting many hundreds of acres of prime "night time" feasting for the apes. In my opinion after many, many hours of research, including a map of sightings outside the glades area, in comparison to farm location the apes are almost always sighted within a few miles of a farm or a major forested area near some type of a farm. I believe this to be a viable pattern in the possible means of tracking a Florida skunk ape. I believe they are using our Florida fruit and veggie farms as their new major source of diet. They're not too stupid to pass up an easily accessible never ending meal. It only makes sense.

A creature like this would need enormous amounts of vegetation and although Florida's pre-farm ecosystem was and probably still is enough to support the diet of an ape of this type. The apes would, I believe, eventually find and instinctively migrate yearly to the "new" food sources they found to be plentiful; I.E. our new farming industry. I believe the people who we should approach in regard to many probable unreported sightings are Florida's migrant worker population. these people would be our most likely candidates to not only have seen the apes but possibly interacted with the apes. our migrant worker population is huge in accordance with our farming industry. They are the real hands on farmers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the controversy of the validity of these very natural looking photos to be typical. The skunk ape in the photos is however I believe one of at least two separate species that wander the states swampy regions and very inaccessible cypress forests. In my research on these guys I have found that the ape in the Myakka photos matches exact descriptions of what seems to be an elder or very old ape of the variety that more resembles, in facial structure the orangutan. I have spoken to others and read at least three other eyewitness accounts that state that the creature had long gray hair, and looked more monkey like, than human. Then there are what I like to call the Swamp apes. Based on eye witness testimony, and photographic evidence including Davids&#8217; and the fire chief&#8217;s photo, from the glades area, they appear to have much shorter arms and a more man-like shape in general. At least two different eye witness photos confirm this. I believe David&#8217;s photos are genuine and he is not a fraud as some have stated.</p>
<p>The Myakka photos seem very natural to me and only a sense of innocence could prompt a the letter to the local authorities. I would like to know just how many homes are close enough to I-75 to prompt the &#8220;elderly woman&#8221; who sent the letter to the cops to worry about the thing causing traffic accidents and getting itself injured on the highway. Perhaps that is a lead into finding the elderly couple who wrote the letter? How many homes are close enough to I-75 In the area in question. maybe a thousand, maybe only 10. the area in question appears to be very underdeveloped on a topographic map. also I noticed several fruit orchards in the area, not just orange groves but guava farms and kiwi as well a vegetable farms.</p>
<p>The entire area around Myakka state parks 37,000 acre state park is a variable feast at all times of the year, with seasonal fruits and veggie farms sporting many hundreds of acres of prime &#8220;night time&#8221; feasting for the apes. In my opinion after many, many hours of research, including a map of sightings outside the glades area, in comparison to farm location the apes are almost always sighted within a few miles of a farm or a major forested area near some type of a farm. I believe this to be a viable pattern in the possible means of tracking a Florida skunk ape. I believe they are using our Florida fruit and veggie farms as their new major source of diet. They&#8217;re not too stupid to pass up an easily accessible never ending meal. It only makes sense.</p>
<p>A creature like this would need enormous amounts of vegetation and although Florida&#8217;s pre-farm ecosystem was and probably still is enough to support the diet of an ape of this type. The apes would, I believe, eventually find and instinctively migrate yearly to the &#8220;new&#8221; food sources they found to be plentiful; I.E. our new farming industry. I believe the people who we should approach in regard to many probable unreported sightings are Florida&#8217;s migrant worker population. these people would be our most likely candidates to not only have seen the apes but possibly interacted with the apes. our migrant worker population is huge in accordance with our farming industry. They are the real hands on farmers.</p>
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		<title>By: Loren Coleman</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/myakka-pix-07/#comment-11847</link>
		<dc:creator>Loren Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 01:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please re-read the letter...see the link in the first text paragraph.

An automatic camera has a rapid-fire flash.  If the description is true, she notes the cryptid froze on the first flash, and then she quickly took a second photograph.

She says she didn't even see it in the dark, and aimed the camera in the direction of where she thought it was.

It may be a hoax, or something else like an animal photographed some place else, but how exactly do we think something like this is going to happen someday?  How else but perhaps in a fashion as seemingly unbelievable as this way?  With a chance encounter?  With an elderly person who stumbles through the dark and keeps taking pictures?  Why would it not be an extraordinary linking of a series of good luck moments that might result in something like these photos?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please re-read the letter&#8230;see the link in the first text paragraph.</p>
<p>An automatic camera has a rapid-fire flash.  If the description is true, she notes the cryptid froze on the first flash, and then she quickly took a second photograph.</p>
<p>She says she didn&#8217;t even see it in the dark, and aimed the camera in the direction of where she thought it was.</p>
<p>It may be a hoax, or something else like an animal photographed some place else, but how exactly do we think something like this is going to happen someday?  How else but perhaps in a fashion as seemingly unbelievable as this way?  With a chance encounter?  With an elderly person who stumbles through the dark and keeps taking pictures?  Why would it not be an extraordinary linking of a series of good luck moments that might result in something like these photos?</p>
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		<title>By: bf looker</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/myakka-pix-07/#comment-11846</link>
		<dc:creator>bf looker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 01:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loren,

  despite the "back &#38; forth" over the red eye, the leaf in the mouth, and the weight bearing toes....my thought is,  How did someone get this close to one of these creatures and get not only one photo, but two?
  I mean really?  If this is a wild creature(regardless of what it is)in the wild doing it's thing...how did somone "sneak-up" on it (to that range) and take two photos?
  I'm an avid hunter and outdoorsman. I have yet to stalk anything truely wild to that range and still have it there to take a picture of it.  And this thing looks like it could eat your face off.
   It's just weird to me someone could get this close to this thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loren,</p>
<p>  despite the &#8220;back &amp; forth&#8221; over the red eye, the leaf in the mouth, and the weight bearing toes&#8230;.my thought is,  How did someone get this close to one of these creatures and get not only one photo, but two?<br />
  I mean really?  If this is a wild creature(regardless of what it is)in the wild doing it&#8217;s thing&#8230;how did somone &#8220;sneak-up&#8221; on it (to that range) and take two photos?<br />
  I&#8217;m an avid hunter and outdoorsman. I have yet to stalk anything truely wild to that range and still have it there to take a picture of it.  And this thing looks like it could eat your face off.<br />
   It&#8217;s just weird to me someone could get this close to this thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Wrightbrain</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/myakka-pix-07/#comment-11845</link>
		<dc:creator>Wrightbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 15:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I &lt;a href="http://home.comcast.net/~jncwright/Wright.jpg"&gt;prepared a jpeg&lt;/a&gt; to prove my point. What is in red is where I think the image truly ends. The shiny tip of the nose is just visible over the palmetto frond on the face. And the "fifth" finger I believe to be just be a shadow, as it is too blurry and has no detail. I outlined it in yellow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I <a href="http://home.comcast.net/~jncwright/Wright.jpg">prepared a jpeg</a> to prove my point. What is in red is where I think the image truly ends. The shiny tip of the nose is just visible over the palmetto frond on the face. And the &#8220;fifth&#8221; finger I believe to be just be a shadow, as it is too blurry and has no detail. I outlined it in yellow.</p>
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		<title>By: Wrightbrain</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/myakka-pix-07/#comment-11844</link>
		<dc:creator>Wrightbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 22:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a wild idea. What if it's a dog? The long face could be foreshortened by the camera. The only troubling thing would be the hand/paw. However since it is obscured by the plant, maybe we are filling in details that aren't there. It could be a regular dog's paw, but with long nails and long hair. The grainy pic just makes it look like a hominid. Dogs with strange paws have misled in the past (e.g. Maine cryptid).

Just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a wild idea. What if it&#8217;s a dog? The long face could be foreshortened by the camera. The only troubling thing would be the hand/paw. However since it is obscured by the plant, maybe we are filling in details that aren&#8217;t there. It could be a regular dog&#8217;s paw, but with long nails and long hair. The grainy pic just makes it look like a hominid. Dogs with strange paws have misled in the past (e.g. Maine cryptid).</p>
<p>Just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike U.</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/myakka-pix-07/#comment-11843</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike U.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 10:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The leaf bundle in the mouth does appear like it is more ductile and shinier than the mature fronds of that palmetto. I wonder if the creature was plucking new, tender growth from the plant when it was rudely disturbed by a camera flash?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The leaf bundle in the mouth does appear like it is more ductile and shinier than the mature fronds of that palmetto. I wonder if the creature was plucking new, tender growth from the plant when it was rudely disturbed by a camera flash?</p>
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		<title>By: Ratopia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ratopia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 07:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it looks fake to me. *ducking and running*. LOL!

First of all, &lt;a href="http://www.junglewalk.com/animal-pictures/606/Orangutan-1966.jpg"&gt;here is a pic&lt;/a&gt; of an Orangutan with it's mouth open.

&lt;a href="http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/AGE/AGE028/M77-370026.jpg"&gt;Here's another&lt;/a&gt;.

There are two species of Orangutan still living.  If anything, this "animal" would have to be the Bornean which actually are a dark brown in many cases, but have a short squat body and a super wide face, like &lt;a href="http://medicine.ucsd.edu/cpa/Images/Large/ORANG1.jpg"&gt;this one&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, the older ones can have long canine teeth, however, they're wide at the base at the gum line and they point outward at an angle whereas the ones on this specimen appear to be quite thin, and tubular, and fake. If it has lower canines then it will have upper ones as well.

It just doesn't look real to me at all.  The body shape is all wrong for an Orangutan and as far as I know, they don't stand up that straight, either.

As far as the palmetto or whatever that foliage is, it doesn't appear to be in the animal's mouth, either.  It looks more like it's stuck on the end of it's nose! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it looks fake to me. *ducking and running*. LOL!</p>
<p>First of all, <a href="http://www.junglewalk.com/animal-pictures/606/Orangutan-1966.jpg">here is a pic</a> of an Orangutan with it&#8217;s mouth open.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/AGE/AGE028/M77-370026.jpg">Here&#8217;s another</a>.</p>
<p>There are two species of Orangutan still living.  If anything, this &#8220;animal&#8221; would have to be the Bornean which actually are a dark brown in many cases, but have a short squat body and a super wide face, like <a href="http://medicine.ucsd.edu/cpa/Images/Large/ORANG1.jpg">this one</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, the older ones can have long canine teeth, however, they&#8217;re wide at the base at the gum line and they point outward at an angle whereas the ones on this specimen appear to be quite thin, and tubular, and fake. If it has lower canines then it will have upper ones as well.</p>
<p>It just doesn&#8217;t look real to me at all.  The body shape is all wrong for an Orangutan and as far as I know, they don&#8217;t stand up that straight, either.</p>
<p>As far as the palmetto or whatever that foliage is, it doesn&#8217;t appear to be in the animal&#8217;s mouth, either.  It looks more like it&#8217;s stuck on the end of it&#8217;s nose! <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Gihdora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gihdora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 06:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as the possibility of the plant being a sago palm, that's a no. Sago palms DO look palmlike, but they are not Palms but gymnosperms. The way to tell the difference is to look at the frond - Palmettos (&lt;em&gt;Sabal palmetto&lt;/em&gt;) have leaflets all stemming from a single point at the end of the stem, while Sago Palms (&lt;em&gt;Cycas revoluta&lt;/em&gt;) have all the leaflets stemming along the length of the stem. I'm not a botanist, but have a lot of experience with Florida plants being a biology major and getting out into the Florida bush every week catching snakes.

I'd also like to hear everybody's opinion of that mouth leaf. That leaf is NOT from any of the palmettos in the picture, so is likely to be from elsewhere. Wouldn't a hoaxer just grab some of the immediately adjacent leaf-litter? Just a thought.

Hey, and while I'm out in the glades looking for pythons this year, I'll keep an eye out for this fellow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as the possibility of the plant being a sago palm, that&#8217;s a no. Sago palms DO look palmlike, but they are not Palms but gymnosperms. The way to tell the difference is to look at the frond - Palmettos (<em>Sabal palmetto</em>) have leaflets all stemming from a single point at the end of the stem, while Sago Palms (<em>Cycas revoluta</em>) have all the leaflets stemming along the length of the stem. I&#8217;m not a botanist, but have a lot of experience with Florida plants being a biology major and getting out into the Florida bush every week catching snakes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like to hear everybody&#8217;s opinion of that mouth leaf. That leaf is NOT from any of the palmettos in the picture, so is likely to be from elsewhere. Wouldn&#8217;t a hoaxer just grab some of the immediately adjacent leaf-litter? Just a thought.</p>
<p>Hey, and while I&#8217;m out in the glades looking for pythons this year, I&#8217;ll keep an eye out for this fellow.</p>
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		<title>By: DARHOP</title>
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		<dc:creator>DARHOP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 22:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is eye shine and red eye the same thing in photos? Cause I always get red eye when my photo is taken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is eye shine and red eye the same thing in photos? Cause I always get red eye when my photo is taken.</p>
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		<title>By: CryptoInformant</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/myakka-pix-07/#comment-11839</link>
		<dc:creator>CryptoInformant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 21:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as the nose-leaf thing, it is entirely possible for the Myakka to be fooling around and stick a palm frond on its face, as I have done numerous times with a wet bubblegum wrapper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as the nose-leaf thing, it is entirely possible for the Myakka to be fooling around and stick a palm frond on its face, as I have done numerous times with a wet bubblegum wrapper.</p>
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