Hair, blood, tissue sample? 1 in 5,000 chance it is not human? Is this another way of saying that about 200 people in a million show this characteristic?

The outline on the screw board? Assuming the outline is reflective of the actual stain shape, there is simply no way of knowing at this point if it was made by one footfall or several- as if the maker repositioned itself or placed different feet on it, etc.

Rock-throwing? I in no way wish to suggest that the central people on this were guilty of anything, but considering that filming crews consist of several people who are under the direction of people other than the good doctors, and those people are being paid for interesting footage, I would feel better if they could somehow positively state and document that ALL members of the crew were accounted for at all times and that none of them employed any form of catapult or anything.

Also- one of the ‘missiles’ was a ‘cord of wood’- which sort of implies that it was firewood… so did it come from close to the cabin?

Rock-throwing is one of those annoying things that really really does not prove much but is nice and dramatic- like the ‘orbs’ on night-vision footage of ghost hunts.

Could not have been locals? Why not? Surely people from all over the area knew that the small army it takes to do something like this was there. Such crews often use locals for many of the jobs. This is even more likely if the lake and cabin are closer to people as others have suggested.

It is just so dang frustrating that we have all these film crews out to ‘prove’ or ‘investigate’ things and we don’t seem to be any closer to any good proof. Planet Earth gets these great ‘first time on camera’ shots of rare leopards and such in remote harsh environments, and we cannot get even a decent photo of a creature that lives, literally, in our back yards.

The following from Bigfoot Forums is particularly interesting.

The author stated: “And, as I found out by doing some digging, Snelgrove Lake isn’t as remote as they’d like us to believe. There’s a First Nations indian reservation about 9 miles from the lake. …there are other fishing camps nearby on other lakes. So, yes, it is the only camp on Snelgrove Lake, but there are other people around. By watching the show, I was left with the impression that there wasn’t another human for 200 miles. That simply is not true. So, to rule out human intervention and say this was done by a sasquatch, I think is really reaching. If you look at a topo map of the area, there is even a gravel runway just to the north of the camp.”

Look, I know people believe what they want to believe regardless of the evidence, but there’s no way a reasonable person could watch this show & disagree with Jerry’s comment much less chastise him (which is why I was compelled to leave a comment in his support). Jerry’s comment NEVER said Sasquatch doesn’t exist, he said the show offered no proof. And that’s undeniable. Thanks for bringing a reasonable critique of the show to the discussion, Jerry.

The same goes for footprints. Some of them are definitely compelling, but we have convincing known hoaxes of footprints that I can only say they are a FACT in that there was a large human shaped footprint in the ground. I would not underestimate the lengths to which hoaxers are willing to go to fool people. I think Meldrum is doing fantastic work in this area, so footprints will likely gain more clout as evidence in the future. I will admit that certainly there are footprints that are intriguing.

SOMETHING causes loud screams at night, but there are known animals that can create some pretty alien sounding shrieks. Seriously, there are sounds made by mundane animals that you would have never imagined they could make. Someone not familiar with these sounds may be taken off guard and jump to the conclusion that the bellowing wails they hear are being caused by a mysterious creature. So yes, SOMETHING is making loud screams in the night, we have recordings of some of these, but this doesn’t mean that a large, hairy hominid has to be the one making them. Note that I am not saying that they CAN’T be caused by Bigfoot, only that there are other possible explanations.

SOMETHING definitely stepped on that nail board and left tissue behind, and it doesn’t seem to be immediately recognizable as a bear. This is one new development that i still find to be very interesting indeed.

SOMETHING causes these things, but where the debate for me lies is what that SOMETHING is. I propose that those “facts” you listed are not necessarily always ones that point to the existence of sasquatch. My skepticism takes a look at the fact that that SOMETHING is not always necessarily a sasquatch, and I do not think this skepticism is “overriding” anything. I don’t want to fit all of those things into any one explanation

You’re ALWAYS among the exceptions to that rule. I don’t know anybody on this site who’s more circumspect about evidence, or more concerned that science be served well in this field. And few if any have more real-world credentials actually practicing the kind of science (on known critters, that is) that I think is going to be essential to confirming the sasquatch.

Naming some others: well, me. Matt Bille is another I’d put down. Daniel Loxton and I have some significant differences of opinion - particularly on the anecdotal evidence and the quality of the P/G hoax, if it was one - but he always hears out proponents, is unfailingly gentlemanly and fair, and most importantly, allows that neither he nor anyone else has any right to judge what an eyewitness saw. (He correctly calls it the “privileged viewpoint.” No one else was there.) things-in-the-woods and ceroill and dogu4 and springheeledjack also come to mind. And now if I don’t watch it people are going to start complaining I left them off. See what you’ve done?
Sounds as if you changed your mind based on the evidence. You sure aren’t the first. I think that the essential problem true skeptics grasp on this issue is this: could every single thing we’ve seen, read and heard about the sasquatch be a tissue of fable, hallucination and lie?

A true effort to answer that question would bring a lot of cynics around to a different view.

And if you’ve seen one, well, talk about a privileged viewpoint. [sigh] if only.

It’s interesting that DWA mentions skeptics that were once “true believers” who felt somehow jilted by Bigfoot. I would consider myself a skeptic, yet the opposite is true for me. I was once a fairly dogged debunker when it came to Bigfoot. I once upon a time gave it no possibility of existing whatsoever, yet I have softened my stance.

In my case, I felt that there was enough circumstantial evidence that, while not convincing me that sasquatch are out there, at least led me to think there is some possible merit to following up leads. There are some things that just haven’t been satisfactorily answered by my old “denialist” arguments. There are things that I’ve become willing to delve into more, whether they point to Bigfoot’s existence or not. I am still pretty critical of purported Bigfoot evidence and of some of the arguments for Bigfoot’s existence, however I am open minded to the fact that it could be out there. It’s interesting to think that some can go the other way.