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		<title>By: Loren Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loren Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's a quick review of M. K. Davis' remarks to try to understand the essence of what he's saying (click on link below):

&lt;a href="http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/whats-being-said/" rel="nofollow"&gt;What's Being Said?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a quick review of M. K. Davis&#8217; remarks to try to understand the essence of what he&#8217;s saying (click on link below):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/whats-being-said/" rel="nofollow">What&#8217;s Being Said?</a></p>
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		<title>By: airforce47</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/more-bf-human/#comment-10780</link>
		<dc:creator>airforce47</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read through the comments and chuckled a bit.  If MK is using a marketing strategy to gain attention he has done it quite well.

However, Loren is very correct with his skeptacism and wait for the details. An analysis needs to be done of MK's theory based upon the evidence presented and his academic support from Stanford.

I wonder if MK will account for the variations in Bigfoot reports from the Northwest to the Deep South?  Loren is correct about this and his Field Guide does a good job of covering the reported types and differences.

It will quite interesting to read our scientific advisor's comments once MK has presented his evidence.

My gut feeling based on my own experiences with the species is that MK's theory is plausible.  I'm very curious to see how he accounts for the various anomolies in the Patterson film.

What's really interesting is the assertion of culture.  I wonder how this conclusion came about?

I'll wait and ante up when the DVD comes out.  It will be fun anyway it turns out.  My best,

LL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read through the comments and chuckled a bit.  If MK is using a marketing strategy to gain attention he has done it quite well.</p>
<p>However, Loren is very correct with his skeptacism and wait for the details. An analysis needs to be done of MK&#8217;s theory based upon the evidence presented and his academic support from Stanford.</p>
<p>I wonder if MK will account for the variations in Bigfoot reports from the Northwest to the Deep South?  Loren is correct about this and his Field Guide does a good job of covering the reported types and differences.</p>
<p>It will quite interesting to read our scientific advisor&#8217;s comments once MK has presented his evidence.</p>
<p>My gut feeling based on my own experiences with the species is that MK&#8217;s theory is plausible.  I&#8217;m very curious to see how he accounts for the various anomolies in the Patterson film.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s really interesting is the assertion of culture.  I wonder how this conclusion came about?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll wait and ante up when the DVD comes out.  It will be fun anyway it turns out.  My best,</p>
<p>LL</p>
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		<title>By: Firefly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Firefly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bigfoot cannot be human; the dermal ridges on its feet are unique to itself, beside apes, monkeys, and man.

The eyes are made for night vision, as animals have.

Intelligence does not make necessary human origin. Bigfoot likely is above a dolphin in that respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bigfoot cannot be human; the dermal ridges on its feet are unique to itself, beside apes, monkeys, and man.</p>
<p>The eyes are made for night vision, as animals have.</p>
<p>Intelligence does not make necessary human origin. Bigfoot likely is above a dolphin in that respect.</p>
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		<title>By: YourPTR!</title>
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		<dc:creator>YourPTR!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 11:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there anywhere you can go online to see digitally mastered stills of the original as opposed to the plentiful ones of the grainy blurry footage that's available to watch on the net? I'm just wondering because I would love to see better quality images! Or maybe what I have seen is the best that is available and includes the digital images but I don't think so because they look pretty grainy and fuzzy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there anywhere you can go online to see digitally mastered stills of the original as opposed to the plentiful ones of the grainy blurry footage that&#8217;s available to watch on the net? I&#8217;m just wondering because I would love to see better quality images! Or maybe what I have seen is the best that is available and includes the digital images but I don&#8217;t think so because they look pretty grainy and fuzzy.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobcat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 19:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I was to take a shot in the dark....there is some interesting information on reclusive "hairy races" to be found doing a net search.

&lt;a href="http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/Hair"&gt;1911 Encyclopedia Britannica&lt;/a&gt;

There are "hairy races" of humans that have been historically reclusive. Could MK be claiming that BF is one of these early races of "hairy humans" that was VERY Hairy and have taken reclusiveness to the extreme?

It would be a relatively new idea, but I don't see how the Patterson footage would confirm this...unless maybe he has spotted a braid or ornamentation that has been previously overlooked, but I would be surprised. I have to agree that what it smells like is  ethically questionable marketing that we seem to be seeing more often lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I was to take a shot in the dark&#8230;.there is some interesting information on reclusive &#8220;hairy races&#8221; to be found doing a net search.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/Hair">1911 Encyclopedia Britannica</a></p>
<p>There are &#8220;hairy races&#8221; of humans that have been historically reclusive. Could MK be claiming that BF is one of these early races of &#8220;hairy humans&#8221; that was VERY Hairy and have taken reclusiveness to the extreme?</p>
<p>It would be a relatively new idea, but I don&#8217;t see how the Patterson footage would confirm this&#8230;unless maybe he has spotted a braid or ornamentation that has been previously overlooked, but I would be surprised. I have to agree that what it smells like is  ethically questionable marketing that we seem to be seeing more often lately.</p>
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		<title>By: DWA</title>
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		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So this is what happens on a Slow News Day.

There's way too much speculation about an old film and some old footprints.  And way too little field research.

And waaaay too many announcements!

The problem with crap like this is that it hits the media; that serious scientists raise their heads from the lab table and see it; and that they go, oh THAT stuff again.  And they not only ignore it, they laugh at the very idea of being associated with it.

I really think it's coming to this:  those who think that we have a flesh-and-blood animal here, verifiable by the scientific method, need to start loudly dissociating themselves from anything -- ANYTHING -- that proposes ANYTHING that isn't scientifically verifiable, or just as bad, a New Way of Seeing stuff that is 40 years old, with no additional data one way or the other since then.  In other words, we need to stop fetishizing evidence.  Science does not respect that practice.

I have said over and over again that the PG film is NOT grainy or fuzzy.  But it certainly cannot support all this "analysis."  Here's what's significant about it:  it's no figment of anything.  It needs explaining; and it's had enough analysis to verify THAT.

Now into the field to explain.  And turn off the tap over all this hash/rehash/re-rehash.  Because it's all been done before, and pretty much just like this.

Into the field.  Verify.  THAT'S what we should be doing, MK.  Not THIS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So this is what happens on a Slow News Day.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s way too much speculation about an old film and some old footprints.  And way too little field research.</p>
<p>And waaaay too many announcements!</p>
<p>The problem with crap like this is that it hits the media; that serious scientists raise their heads from the lab table and see it; and that they go, oh THAT stuff again.  And they not only ignore it, they laugh at the very idea of being associated with it.</p>
<p>I really think it&#8217;s coming to this:  those who think that we have a flesh-and-blood animal here, verifiable by the scientific method, need to start loudly dissociating themselves from anything &#8212; ANYTHING &#8212; that proposes ANYTHING that isn&#8217;t scientifically verifiable, or just as bad, a New Way of Seeing stuff that is 40 years old, with no additional data one way or the other since then.  In other words, we need to stop fetishizing evidence.  Science does not respect that practice.</p>
<p>I have said over and over again that the PG film is NOT grainy or fuzzy.  But it certainly cannot support all this &#8220;analysis.&#8221;  Here&#8217;s what&#8217;s significant about it:  it&#8217;s no figment of anything.  It needs explaining; and it&#8217;s had enough analysis to verify THAT.</p>
<p>Now into the field to explain.  And turn off the tap over all this hash/rehash/re-rehash.  Because it&#8217;s all been done before, and pretty much just like this.</p>
<p>Into the field.  Verify.  THAT&#8217;S what we should be doing, MK.  Not THIS.</p>
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		<title>By: drthomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>drthomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 08:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who knows maybe M.K is thinking that Sasquatch aka Bigfoot is a cross between a human and?

Who knows, he might just trying to get every one's attention so they will listen to what he has found.

One thing for sure, he has done a lot to help prove the Patterson film isn't a man in a suit.

So it's wait and see. Maybe Neanderthal man didn't die out after all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who knows maybe M.K is thinking that Sasquatch aka Bigfoot is a cross between a human and?</p>
<p>Who knows, he might just trying to get every one&#8217;s attention so they will listen to what he has found.</p>
<p>One thing for sure, he has done a lot to help prove the Patterson film isn&#8217;t a man in a suit.</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s wait and see. Maybe Neanderthal man didn&#8217;t die out after all?</p>
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		<title>By: ToddPartain</title>
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		<dc:creator>ToddPartain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 04:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps, in the legal sense, we will have to create a new category for this creature. It does not use fire or fashion weapons from flint or wear clothing, but appears to build shelters and may even have a spoken language of sorts. Science may be able to classify patty as "homo" this or that, but legally, is it a "manimal"? Someone once told me,"The BigFoot Monnister(sic) can't drive a car or shoot a gun, but out there in them woods, It's a whole lot smarter than you are. It don't matter how good a hunter you are. Out there you're in HIS living room." Maybe from the perspective of such a quiet, aware creature, WE are seen as the subhumans, and it has chosen to avoid us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps, in the legal sense, we will have to create a new category for this creature. It does not use fire or fashion weapons from flint or wear clothing, but appears to build shelters and may even have a spoken language of sorts. Science may be able to classify patty as &#8220;homo&#8221; this or that, but legally, is it a &#8220;manimal&#8221;? Someone once told me,&#8221;The BigFoot Monnister(sic) can&#8217;t drive a car or shoot a gun, but out there in them woods, It&#8217;s a whole lot smarter than you are. It don&#8217;t matter how good a hunter you are. Out there you&#8217;re in HIS living room.&#8221; Maybe from the perspective of such a quiet, aware creature, WE are seen as the subhumans, and it has chosen to avoid us.</p>
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		<title>By: joppa</title>
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		<dc:creator>joppa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 03:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The human vs. animal debate is, for now, an exercise in fantasy; we are still talking about an unclassified and undiscovered creature ( to mainstream science ).

Yet in this discussion, we indeed revisit the age-old question, "What is man ???"  We thump our chests and quickly answer with a variety of scientific and theological assumptions we so bravely cling to. However, our answers need to examined in every generation.

Only 70 years ago, the Nazis decided that Jews, Slavs and other non-arayans were sub-human and could be elminated.  Two hundred years before that, Africans we enslaved because they were considered more simian than human. Finally, the great debate of the discovery of the Americas was whether the Native Americans were human. ( By a narrow vote in the Vatican, they were deemed to be human by a papal decree.)

So is Patty human? Our answer to this question is more than an academic exercise, it will be, when she is discovered, how our culture will be judged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The human vs. animal debate is, for now, an exercise in fantasy; we are still talking about an unclassified and undiscovered creature ( to mainstream science ).</p>
<p>Yet in this discussion, we indeed revisit the age-old question, &#8220;What is man ???&#8221;  We thump our chests and quickly answer with a variety of scientific and theological assumptions we so bravely cling to. However, our answers need to examined in every generation.</p>
<p>Only 70 years ago, the Nazis decided that Jews, Slavs and other non-arayans were sub-human and could be elminated.  Two hundred years before that, Africans we enslaved because they were considered more simian than human. Finally, the great debate of the discovery of the Americas was whether the Native Americans were human. ( By a narrow vote in the Vatican, they were deemed to be human by a papal decree.)</p>
<p>So is Patty human? Our answer to this question is more than an academic exercise, it will be, when she is discovered, how our culture will be judged.</p>
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		<title>By: bigfooterbob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigfooterbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 02:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This subject has sure started a fire storm. Human or ape or hoax. One thing is for sure, if bigfoot is an ape then it is more closely related to us then any of the other great apes. It seems that geographically bigfoot species differ from region to region.

I believe Loren is right when he says Northwest bigfoots tend to be more human like in the northwest part of the country and more ape like in the southern portion of country where the weather is more tropical. I'm just generalizing a bit so don't get all crazy, the point being if "patty" was filmed in the south maybe M.K.D. would have come to the conclusion that she was and an ape and not an "out of touch" human.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This subject has sure started a fire storm. Human or ape or hoax. One thing is for sure, if bigfoot is an ape then it is more closely related to us then any of the other great apes. It seems that geographically bigfoot species differ from region to region.</p>
<p>I believe Loren is right when he says Northwest bigfoots tend to be more human like in the northwest part of the country and more ape like in the southern portion of country where the weather is more tropical. I&#8217;m just generalizing a bit so don&#8217;t get all crazy, the point being if &#8220;patty&#8221; was filmed in the south maybe M.K.D. would have come to the conclusion that she was and an ape and not an &#8220;out of touch&#8221; human.</p>
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