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Montauk Monster: Raccoon?

Posted by: Loren Coleman on July 30th, 2008

Something strange indeed did wash ashore at Montauk Island, New York.

Is the “Montauk Monster” nothing more than a raccoon without an upper jaw, as proclaimed by local officials? See below.

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captiannemo responds: July 30th, 2008 at 6:19 am
That sure looks like it could be a pug dog.

The eyes face forward and the general shape of the body.
Krisspy Boy responds: July 30th, 2008 at 8:04 am
Looks like a wingless Griffin to me.
Sunny responds: July 30th, 2008 at 9:20 am
Okay, I could see raccoon (but this thing still ran through my dreams).

Anybody considering DNA testing, maybe?
Sunny responds: July 30th, 2008 at 9:23 am
Sorry to double post — google an image for ‘raccoon skull’ — there are a few sites that show raccoon skulls in various stages of decomposition, and it becomes pretty plausible.

That plus the slightly stocky build (even accounting for bloating), long tail (which would be very ratlike without fur) and short folded ears.

Still want to hear about any testing or other further research.
Sordes responds: July 30th, 2008 at 10:37 am
Given the general appearance of the body proportions I could also imagine that it is a decomposed badger. The hindquarter seems too massive for a dog, so I would say either a racoon or a badger.
The teeth shows clearly that it is or was a Carnivore, so there are not much possibilties for its idendity.
sluggo responds: July 30th, 2008 at 10:40 am
I don’t “see” a raccoon at all. Those elongated legs for one, the raccoon also has a slightly humped back. What is the strap like thing on the front right leg, some sort of tether? The funny thing is the “looking for a restaurant’ ad on the newspaper page below the story. After looking at the body pic you hardly think of fine dining.
Richard888 responds: July 30th, 2008 at 10:52 am
I like the raccoon and pitbull hypothesis. (I lean more towards the pitbull one.)

I’m still curious why everyone proceeded to identify the carcass instead of question the authenticity of the picture.

Questioning the picture is the usual line of thought in the rare event that a clear picture of a hominid, felid, canid or lake monster emerges.

Was this choice due to cognitive psychology, a feature in the picture or the circumstances in the story?
Erin responds: July 30th, 2008 at 11:00 am
A new Gawker post suggests it’s viral marketing for The Cartoon Network’s new show Cryptids Are Real. It’s not without precedent for the network…remember the Aqua Teen Hungerforce “bomb” in Boston a couple of years ago?
Sunny responds: July 30th, 2008 at 11:19 am
I think that skipping the veracity of the photo is because not a single person (including a number of folks who follow this and write extremely convincing analyses of photographs) have said a peep about why they think it’s Photoshopped. Lots of cries of Photoshop! but not a single thing about what makes them think that.

There’s always a healthy dose of reality that suggests that it COULD be photoshopped — but I’m no expert at photo manipulation, so I must rely on others to tell me that it is.

Death and decay do things to bodies that are more hideous than what most people can imagine, so my honest feeling is that it is a known species, warped in death to appear to be something completely different. (Google ‘raccoon skull” images again — some of the photos publish are pretty freaky looking, even though you KNOW what it is! More than one of those is close to looking like the stuff of nightmares)

@Sluggo — I’d like to know what that strap thing is on the front appendages, too — I really, really hate to think that whateverthisis died at the hands of some sick freak who tied its legs together and sent it for a swim. Hard to tell from the position of that carcass whether it would have had a humped back or not (it’s not laying in a very natural position) - and the same decay/damage that made the nose look like a bill could very well have damaged the legs/arms/paws, as well.

Not saying you’re wrong and I’m right, only that it’s hard to tell from that photo. (I was only going by the shape of the head compared to photos of raccoon skulls and the long skinny tail, as both of those are fairly clearly visible).
Andrew Minnesota responds: July 30th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
I still don’t think it’s a dog, even if the front is starting to decay I looked up pictures of canine skulls through google and found some that are angled about the same and they just don’t look similar except for the lower jaw, maybe it had a deformity? Who knows, I’m starting to lean towards the viral marketing suggestions (even though I would love to be proven wrong).

Maybe this is a specimen of a subterranean society of rodent like human creatures hence accounting for the beard. This one broke the laws of the society and had its front limbs bound and they were cast into an underground lake, little knowing that the corpse would wash ashore into our above ground world… or maybe I just made that up :p
big d responds: July 30th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
It sure looks like the sea turtles that I saw lying in the middle of US rt 113 just south of Dover Delaware. Just without their shells. They would frequently come ashore at Kitt’s Hummack and wander across the highway and get hit by cars and trucks. Ugly to behold shell-less. The strap and mane looking things are the remnants of skin that used to connect the extremities to the shell
Lightning Orb responds: July 30th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
If it were smaller I would suggest some sort of embryo - even birds can have tooth-like structures as embryos. Hey, maybe it is just another mangey cyote… But I agree the bonds look suspicious. Escaped experiment gone horribly wrong?
Lightning Orb responds: July 30th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
BTW the arms are the wrong shape for a turtle
cryptidsrus responds: July 30th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
I’m sorry, but there is no way that thing (whatever it is) is a racoon. It could be a dog, but then it would have to be a totally deformed dog. In all, I’d rather go for canine than a raccoon.
Erin responds: July 30th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
It can’t be a shell-less turtle, I’m afraid. Turtles’ spines are attached to their shells, and therefore they can’t be de-shelled.
lumbarjack03 responds: July 30th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
just my 2 cents,
I saw a show on racoons and there not very stocky at all there hair makes them appear too be bigger then they are and they can squeeze through the smallest spaces. on that note i’de lean towards a dog and a lil photoshopping if it is a hoax. if not im not too sure what it could be
red_pill_junkie responds: July 30th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
LOL Those poor lirestaurants.com fellows should demand a refund for their ad! After watching that gross photo, who in his right mind would be in the mood to look for a place to eat??
daxx responds: July 30th, 2008 at 7:10 pm
The right front paw seems to be making a defiant gester. Maybe someone will be curious enough to provide futher testing. Either way, it should not be all that difficult for trained person who can get their hands on it to make a determination.
Aphyllos responds: July 30th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
As i’ve already stated I’m firmly in the canine camp on this one…

…and on that front I stumbled upon this (quite possibly ludicrously overblown and scare-mongering rather than based on ANY facts whatsover…) group in Facebook… an interesting aside i thought.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2428012611
red_pill_junkie responds: July 30th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
You probably solved this mystery Aphillos.

That image on the Facebook page will haunt my dreams tonight
mystery_man responds: July 30th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
I agree with captainnemo, I think that this could very well be the body of a pug. I have two pugs, and it is the first thing I thought when I saw this picture. They are fairly deformed looking dogs, skull wise, and the body shape is just like that pictured. If the upper lip was to rot away, I imagine a dead pug would look very much like this. The only problem I have with this idea is the tail. Pugs have very tightly wound, curly tails, however they CAN straighten it out when they want to. I’m not sure what happens to their tail when they die, maybe someone here can tell me. If a pug’s tail relaxes upon death and straightens out like we see here, then I’d propose a pug as a candidate for what this creature might be. Those paws don’t really fit in, but as others have said, sun and decomposition can do strange things to a carcass.
clancyryan responds: July 30th, 2008 at 9:35 pm
I found a pic of a pug skull on google, and while theres a few differences, mainly the forehead on the mystery creature slopes a bit too much, i think it’s kind of probable that it is a pug or some sort of crossbreed.
http://rationalrevolution.net/images/pug-skull-md.jpg
tbuck23 responds: July 30th, 2008 at 11:38 pm
Im no expert but couldnt this be a turtle without a shell????
Braindead responds: July 31st, 2008 at 8:58 am
@tbuck
A turtle can not crawl out of it’s shell (because the shell includes portions of the ribs.

Still think it’s a pitbull or some other kind of dog. (http://bulldogbreeds.com/breeders/pics/chuck3_pitbull.jpg)

Braindead
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springheeledjack responds: August 1st, 2008 at 12:53 am
All I have to say is it looks real…so if it is photoshopped, we have come to the point in technology where pictures can no longer be evidence of anything…
Sordes responds: August 1st, 2008 at 6:34 am
There seems to be very long claws and at front paws. Such claws are not seen in canines (only pathological) and also not in raccoons, but they look exactly like the long strong claws of a badger (which would also fit overal body-shape, limb proportions and dentition).

For comparison the shorter and curved claws of the raccoon which is much more a climber than a burrower.
camp hero responds: August 7th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
listen people Watch THE MIST this thing can no way be a raccon or dog or even a turtle without its shell look at it does look like decomposing raccon dog turtle everyone here has seen a dead raccon on the side of the road ok this thing is no dog look at the ears and turtles dont have ears and look at the paw then look at the back legs they dont match at all this thing is not of this world Everyone Look up Camp Hero same idea as the “MIST” this thing escaped from another dimmension
camp hero responds: August 7th, 2008 at 9:36 pm
Thank you Sordes no dog has no paws like that second its not a turtle without ears cause turtles dont have the cartlidge like mammals and plum island probablly did have something to do wit this thing but 4 all you reading this comment LOOK UP CAMP HERO this thing is not of this world no matter what anyone says think logically here for 1 minute

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