Comments on: Happy 35th Anniversary: The Mansi Champ Photograph

By: gorilin

gorilin — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 15:25:27 +0000

marcodufour. I've made a video to show my respect to two of the best Nessie hunters in history.

By: marcodufour

marcodufour — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 09:52:49 +0000

gorilin.

I personally think the Dinsdale film is indeed real, he was a very educated man and sent it off to the Air Reconnasaince unit to be looked at, not likely if it was a hoax. The surgeon photos I believe are real too, there were two photos and the 2nd less famous one was obviously not an unbending head on a submarine but looked flexible such as a real creature would have, also I believe it was Paul Leblond who worked on the wave height and said the neck was around 4 ft tall?

I always found the easy acceptance of a supposed death bed confession from Christian Spurling as far too easy, the same as the media reporting that x,y and z person wore the suit for the Patterson footage, all too pat and too easily accepted without question.

Regards.

By: gorilin

gorilin — Sun, 08 Jul 2012 19:59:01 +0000

marcodufour
Yes,sir.That´s why many scientist don´t trust Tim Dinsdale´s film.For me it´s real,but for others it is not.The fact is that there have been so many hoaxes,beginning with the surgeon´s photograph,that most peolple think everything is a hoax.I think that with only the fingers of one hand you can count the trustworthy monster hunters.Rhines,Mackal,Kirk,Le Blonde and someone else.I don´t know why,but the horse-like head brings me Caddy to mind,Paul H Le Blonde has devoted most of his professional life to it´s study,and it could be the creature that hids inside many lakes.

By: marcodufour

marcodufour — Sun, 08 Jul 2012 16:52:16 +0000

Gorilin i have to agree with you particularly about Loch Ness, i have a friend who lives on the shores of Ness in the village of Dores, her and her sister saw something very close up which was horse headed and close enough to see the water droplets on it, it took her ages to trust me enough to tell me as most people sadly take the proverbial without knowing any of the evidence. Robert Rhines photos were also fascinating as they used sonar cameras which reacted and confirmed two large objects moving into the sonar`s range when the fish moved away ( which to me is possible evidence of a predator ) If it was surface photography taken by someone expecting a creature then it is potentially more dubious, but machines have no expectations or personal interests as of course they are only machines.

By: gorilin

gorilin — Sun, 08 Jul 2012 13:45:59 +0000

cryptokellie.
Cressie is a giant eel, the lake Iliamma monster is a big white sturgeon, as in some lakes in Siberia. But Nessie,Champ and Ogopogo go far beyond that. People don’t see an inverted boat, or an anaconda-like creature, they see a long neck and one or two humps. Rhines was the only monster hunter who led an underwater search, and he brought eternal evidence. We are in 2012, and no one, not even James Cameron, dare to go inside Loch Ness. Why?, I don’t know, Cousteau didn’t either. MAYBE WE SHOULD STOP CALLING THEM MONSTERS, AND BRING THEM INTO REALITY. I’m sure Sandra Mansi does not lie, and that’s not driftwood. Tourism is one thing, an unknown creature is another.

By: corrick

corrick — Sun, 08 Jul 2012 00:39:17 +0000

cryptokellie
Seems like we are on the same page. For over a decade I’ve written that my best guess is the Orang-pendek is some close relative or sub-species of the orangutan that has evolved to live on the jungle floor.
As for Champ? About as likely as Nessie, imho.

By: dconstrukt

dconstrukt — Sat, 07 Jul 2012 14:55:46 +0000

lol… sorry folks… while the photo is really interesting… and looks like it COULD be something alive… what else could it be?

a tree? something else.

I mean… in 35 years no one else has been able to get a solid photo?

What are we in 1890?

just strikes me as VERY odd.

Its 2012… we can see thermal… in the dark… send a man to the moon… go to the depths of the ocean (thanks james cameron)…

and yet… you’re telling me we can’t get a solid photo or evidence champ is real?

By: cryptokellie

cryptokellie — Sat, 07 Jul 2012 01:23:08 +0000

Corrick,
I agree completely…although I wonder just how “cyptic” the Orang-Pendek will turn out to be, once found and identified. Out of place chimpanzee, sub-species orangutan or…?

BTW…the most interesting item in the Champlain box of “evidence” to me are the echo-location clicks heard and recorded in the lake. Solid evidence but, of what? I have been to Lake Champlain a couple times both in New York and Vermont. Didn’t see anything, but it is one hell of a lake.

By: corrick

corrick — Fri, 06 Jul 2012 22:41:48 +0000

cryptokellie,
Think you switch your hopes to something like the orang pendek. Much better roi, imho.

By: cryptokellie

cryptokellie — Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:22:40 +0000

I have been waiting for over 55 years for conclusive “evidence” of lake monsters and the Rhines and Mansi photos prove that there are very interesting and even unusual things in both Loch Ness and Lake Champlain but do not prove the existence of said lake monsters.

Please don’t misunderstand, I would dearly love for there to be such creatures alive, well and dwelling in the deep lakes of the world and I still believe, as I did as a young boy, that somewhere they do exist. But real proof is just that-real proof…a body, a very clear and lengthy video or series of sharp, referenced photographs will be the evidence required.

The same goes for Bigfoot, Yeti and all the rest. But I have not yet given up hope that someday, the needed conclusive proof will be finally collected.