Comments on: Mammoth Space-Blast: Sanderson Vindicated

By: Terry W. Colvin

Terry W. Colvin — Sun, 16 Dec 2007 05:18:27 +0000

Sanderson could certainly think outside the box.

Others, such as Velikovsky and Charles Fort, thought through events seeking the cause. Has anyone gone through the literature these gentlemen wrote to sort through the mysteries presented and updated same?

Again, fine post Loren.

By: mystery_man

mystery_man — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:28:55 +0000

Just goes to show that just when we think we know how everything works, new findings can surprise us and change our perceptions. We are far from the point where we can say there is nothing new to be learned, and it is disappointing to me that anyone would laugh at another scientist’s ideas that fall outside of known theories and paradigms as seems to be the case with Sanderson concerning the mammoths. Question, doubt, sure, but do not ridicule. As can be seen here, sometimes new evidence can vindicate those that dare to search outside of the box. I am pleased that new research will look into the implications of these preliminary findings. This is a fascinating article.

By: dogu4

dogu4 — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:29:46 +0000

This is a very fascinating subject. As a child of the 50s, I grew up on stories about these frozen mammoths. Without any evidence natural science adheres to the principles inherent in geology where processes are essentially slow and over long periods of time, which is true for the most part and I’m glad of it, but then there are these unpredictable planetary disasters.
If researchers can firmly fix the event in the chronology of the planet it will have paradigm shifting implications on a lot of long-standing presumptions ranging from zoology to climate study.
I’m eager to hear more about it because of the mammoths of course, but the other recently extinct populations like sloths, cats, bears, and who knows what else, whose disappearance that the event precipitated far and wide, are in some ways even more fascination for their far greater diversity than the continent has had in..well, 12,900 year….and how they were part of the complex and ancient landscape that’s now gone.

By: cryptidsrus

cryptidsrus — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:24:27 +0000

Great post, Loren!!!

Great finding!!!

We know so little about certain aspects of our past, if something REALLY STRANGE would have been found to have happened to this planet MILLIONS of years ago, it would not surprise me in the least.

So one never knows about folks like Velikovsky, Loren. Not saying he WAS right, but stranger things have been proved to have happened in this universe.

Anyway, nice to see Sanderson (may he rest in peace) vindicated. This reminds me of that old Louis Armstrong song:

“But Ho-Ho-Ho—Who’s got the last laugh now?”

By: Loren Coleman

Loren Coleman — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:50:06 +0000

The points are well-taken about Velikovsky. Perhaps I was too overwhelmingly catastrophic in naming those three.

Certainly, I’ve always made some divisions in my mind between the theories of Hapgood and Sanderson, and those of Velikovsky.

I am merely aware that since he also talked about the sudden kill-off and freezing of mammoths, he might have been happy to hear about this research.

By: YourPTR!

YourPTR! — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:00:13 +0000

Excellent post Loren! I guess sadly this confirms that there’s no chance of ever finding a surviving Mammoth, but maybe cloning will eventually be succesful in resurrecting this magnificient beast once the techniques employed have grown in sophistication. I for one would just love to see the Mammoth make a comeback!

By: rbhess

rbhess — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:18:43 +0000

This is nice, and some vindication for Ivan Sanderson is fitting—I have a soft spot in my heart for Sanderson, despite his tendency for being a bit too credulous on occasion. But Velikovsky? No no no. Sanderson was at least a trained scientist. Velikovsky’s ideas, it seems to me, would be in no way vindicated even if it *was* proven that there were impacts at this time. Velikovsky’s overall “theories” were without scientific basis and shouldn’t enter into this. Sanderson’s notion that catastrophic impacts may have explained entombed ice age animals? Sure. Velikovsky’s ideas that the planet Venus was belched out of Jupiter and wandered around the solar system, stopping the earth and re-starting it again? Uh, no.

By: Loren Coleman

Loren Coleman — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:39:03 +0000

Sanderson considered a variety of possibilities, including a shifting crust, volcanic debris involvement, a massive global cold front, mixing of rocks and wind from above shredding the animals to pieces (as found in some cases), and more.

The whole idea is that Sanderson was considering a catastrophic astronomical answer versus the standard notion of the day that the mammoths gently fell into some muck and got stuck, then slowly froze to death.

Meteorites, icy comets, massive air blasts, Tunguska-like explosions, asteriods, who knows?

Sanderson had an open-mind about the mammoths’ demise, and I think the new findings nicely shake up the status quo picture of what happened. Sanderson would be smiling and making some witty Scottish comment about right now.

By: Alton Higgins

Alton Higgins — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:03:40 +0000

As I read his theory, Sanderson was not describing an extraterrestrial event; he was suggesting something like a massive high pressure system.

By: big mack

big mack — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:53:18 +0000

Holy mammoth, that’s so cool!