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	<title>Comments on: Luzon Dragon Lizard Discovered</title>
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		<title>By: Sordes</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/luzon-dragon/comment-page-1/#comment-63236</link>
		<dc:creator>Sordes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 20:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I highly doubt that there are only three known fruit-eating lizards in the world. The occasional consumption of fruits is already known from some other monitors, and it is well known that a lot of &quot;real&quot; lizards consume fruits quite often, especially the large species. Especially the the large to giant lizards of the Canary islands (from which some were thought to be extinct and were later rediscoverd) consume very often fruits. In some regions they are even seen as a pest species when they feed on fruits at gardens and plantations. I have seen those lizards myself eating tomatoes and fruits. There is even a spectacular case of an introduced population of wall lizards on an island of Croatia, which evolved herbivory within only 30 years. They evolved larger heads and a stronger bites, and even complex changes of the digestive system to deal better with plant material. And this wall lizards don´t just consume fruits or vegetables but leaves. Furthermore they developed different social structures.

To add something about sizes: The komodo dragon is one of those animals whose dimensions are highly frequently exagerated. Specimens over 50 kg (with empty stomach) are already highly exceptional. It gives not a good idea of the whole animal if the sizes of dragons are given, which were bloated with prey. The very heaviest one with confirmed weight (and empty stomach) was 81 kg. 
Komodo-dragons are very stocky animals, and compared to their size, they have only very short tails. In contrast species like the newly discovered Varanus bitatawa have like most other monitors a proportionally long tail and are lesser bulky than komodo dragons. So it is not surprising that a lean and long-tailed monitor can weigh only 22 Ibs at 2 m. The snout-vent-length, which gives a much better idea about the actual size, is probably only around 80 cm for this new species. In contrast the SVL of the 81 kg komodo dragon was 154 cm. Weight increases with the cube, and if you take this as a basis for comparison calculations, things work quite well. At a SVL of 154 cm, this particularly huge komodo dragon had a full length of 304 cm (i.e. its tail was not even half of the total length). Theoretically this is only 50% longer than a 2 m Varanaus bitatawa, what would (at similar body proportions) indicate to a weight-difference at the factor of 3,375. But this doesn´t work, as they have very different body proportions. If only SVL is compared, the comparison of 154 cm and 80 cm leads to a calculated weight difference at the factor of 7,13. Multiplied with the given weight of 22 Ibs, we get roughly 70 kg. Now given the fact that komodo dragons are still overall bulkier than V. bitatawa, it works perfectly, so 22 Ibs is really not an unrealistic weight for a 2 m monitor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I highly doubt that there are only three known fruit-eating lizards in the world. The occasional consumption of fruits is already known from some other monitors, and it is well known that a lot of &#8220;real&#8221; lizards consume fruits quite often, especially the large species. Especially the the large to giant lizards of the Canary islands (from which some were thought to be extinct and were later rediscoverd) consume very often fruits. In some regions they are even seen as a pest species when they feed on fruits at gardens and plantations. I have seen those lizards myself eating tomatoes and fruits. There is even a spectacular case of an introduced population of wall lizards on an island of Croatia, which evolved herbivory within only 30 years. They evolved larger heads and a stronger bites, and even complex changes of the digestive system to deal better with plant material. And this wall lizards don´t just consume fruits or vegetables but leaves. Furthermore they developed different social structures.</p>
<p>To add something about sizes: The komodo dragon is one of those animals whose dimensions are highly frequently exagerated. Specimens over 50 kg (with empty stomach) are already highly exceptional. It gives not a good idea of the whole animal if the sizes of dragons are given, which were bloated with prey. The very heaviest one with confirmed weight (and empty stomach) was 81 kg.<br />
Komodo-dragons are very stocky animals, and compared to their size, they have only very short tails. In contrast species like the newly discovered Varanus bitatawa have like most other monitors a proportionally long tail and are lesser bulky than komodo dragons. So it is not surprising that a lean and long-tailed monitor can weigh only 22 Ibs at 2 m. The snout-vent-length, which gives a much better idea about the actual size, is probably only around 80 cm for this new species. In contrast the SVL of the 81 kg komodo dragon was 154 cm. Weight increases with the cube, and if you take this as a basis for comparison calculations, things work quite well. At a SVL of 154 cm, this particularly huge komodo dragon had a full length of 304 cm (i.e. its tail was not even half of the total length). Theoretically this is only 50% longer than a 2 m Varanaus bitatawa, what would (at similar body proportions) indicate to a weight-difference at the factor of 3,375. But this doesn´t work, as they have very different body proportions. If only SVL is compared, the comparison of 154 cm and 80 cm leads to a calculated weight difference at the factor of 7,13. Multiplied with the given weight of 22 Ibs, we get roughly 70 kg. Now given the fact that komodo dragons are still overall bulkier than V. bitatawa, it works perfectly, so 22 Ibs is really not an unrealistic weight for a 2 m monitor.</p>
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		<title>By: dwindell</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/luzon-dragon/comment-page-1/#comment-63234</link>
		<dc:creator>dwindell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 19:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what I find amazing about this is that it isn&#039;t getting more press!!! 

Honestly, how often are new land-dwelling vertebreas  of this size discovered? Add to that the fact that it&#039;s one of only 3 species of fruit-eating lizards, and you have a truly remarkable find! This is Cryptozoology at it&#039;s &quot;Mountain Gorilla&quot; finest....a creature that is of significant size, is ethno-known, has incredible features that are distinct from known species...truly a special piece of news that deserves more play!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what I find amazing about this is that it isn&#8217;t getting more press!!! </p>
<p>Honestly, how often are new land-dwelling vertebreas  of this size discovered? Add to that the fact that it&#8217;s one of only 3 species of fruit-eating lizards, and you have a truly remarkable find! This is Cryptozoology at it&#8217;s &#8220;Mountain Gorilla&#8221; finest&#8230;.a creature that is of significant size, is ethno-known, has incredible features that are distinct from known species&#8230;truly a special piece of news that deserves more play!</p>
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		<title>By: Banaticus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Banaticus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 08:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hope that wasn&#039;t the last one that they just put down.  The hunters brought a barely alive one, but could it have been saved?  It sounds like it already meets the endangered criteria.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope that wasn&#8217;t the last one that they just put down.  The hunters brought a barely alive one, but could it have been saved?  It sounds like it already meets the endangered criteria.</p>
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		<title>By: Cryptoraptor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cryptoraptor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 04:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a fruit eater, but does that mean it doesn&#039;t eat insects or small rodents as well? Also, does it have the poisonous saliva like Komodo dragons? At some point they&#039;ll have the answers...   ;)

Largest Komodo dragon verified was just over 10 feet long and weighed 370 lbs, including undigested food. These newly discovered tree dwellers are over 6 feet long but surprisingly only weigh about 22 lbs.

The Komodo dragon, to me, is one of the scariest animals, in no small part to their blood poisoning saliva, as well as monsterous looks and surprising agility.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a fruit eater, but does that mean it doesn&#8217;t eat insects or small rodents as well? Also, does it have the poisonous saliva like Komodo dragons? At some point they&#8217;ll have the answers&#8230;   <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Largest Komodo dragon verified was just over 10 feet long and weighed 370 lbs, including undigested food. These newly discovered tree dwellers are over 6 feet long but surprisingly only weigh about 22 lbs.</p>
<p>The Komodo dragon, to me, is one of the scariest animals, in no small part to their blood poisoning saliva, as well as monsterous looks and surprising agility.</p>
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		<title>By: jodzilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>jodzilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 02:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool.</p>
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