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	<title>Comments on: Loren Coleman&#8217;s Top Cryptids</title>
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		<title>By: Chance Connor</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/lorens-tops/comment-page-1/#comment-67775</link>
		<dc:creator>Chance Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2011 01:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1. Mokele-mbembe
2. Wendigo
3. Sasquatch
4. Loch Ness Monster
5. Yeti
6. Chupacabra]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Mokele-mbembe<br />
2. Wendigo<br />
3. Sasquatch<br />
4. Loch Ness Monster<br />
5. Yeti<br />
6. Chupacabra</p>
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		<title>By: Loren Coleman</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/lorens-tops/comment-page-1/#comment-9414</link>
		<dc:creator>Loren Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 00:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cryptid cats...check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/lorens-top-50/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this list of fifty cryptids&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cryptid cats&#8230;check out <a href="http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/lorens-top-50/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">this list of fifty cryptids</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: sausage1</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/lorens-tops/comment-page-1/#comment-9413</link>
		<dc:creator>sausage1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 23:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What. no cryptid cats? Not even in li&#039;l ol&#039; England?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What. no cryptid cats? Not even in li&#8217;l ol&#8217; England?</p>
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		<title>By: Mnynames</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/lorens-tops/comment-page-1/#comment-9412</link>
		<dc:creator>Mnynames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Dec 2006 20:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The reason I didn&#039;t mention my own list here is that it all seemed like just so much &quot;my cryptid is WAY cooler than yours&quot; sort of talk, but after Loren&#039;s last post, I feel the need to mention something.  I agree with the validity of many of the creatures on everybody&#039;s lists, save for maybe dropping Mothman in favour of the Jersey Devil (Such is the nature of personal preference, and the continued sightings of the latter over the former), but if I had to pick one cryptid that I think deserves our full attention, I would have to go with the Thylacine.

Here&#039;s my reasoning- We know it existed, not even the skeptics can dispute that, nor the fact that it once lived on the Australian mainland (Although I grant that the survivors today are likely transplants from Tasmania).  It is not easy to mistake another creature for one, and there have been dozens of credible photos, and many more times that of credible sightings.  If, through a coordinated effort, the CZ community could uncover definitive evidence for its continued existence, then the whole can of Mongolian Death Worms is opened to the public, so to speak.  Once we have the Thylacine under our belt, it will be that much easier to legitimize our field and acquire funding to go after the harder targets, like the lake monsters and the hairy bipeds.

Anyway, just my 2 cents there, free of charge...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason I didn&#8217;t mention my own list here is that it all seemed like just so much &#8220;my cryptid is WAY cooler than yours&#8221; sort of talk, but after Loren&#8217;s last post, I feel the need to mention something.  I agree with the validity of many of the creatures on everybody&#8217;s lists, save for maybe dropping Mothman in favour of the Jersey Devil (Such is the nature of personal preference, and the continued sightings of the latter over the former), but if I had to pick one cryptid that I think deserves our full attention, I would have to go with the Thylacine.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my reasoning- We know it existed, not even the skeptics can dispute that, nor the fact that it once lived on the Australian mainland (Although I grant that the survivors today are likely transplants from Tasmania).  It is not easy to mistake another creature for one, and there have been dozens of credible photos, and many more times that of credible sightings.  If, through a coordinated effort, the CZ community could uncover definitive evidence for its continued existence, then the whole can of Mongolian Death Worms is opened to the public, so to speak.  Once we have the Thylacine under our belt, it will be that much easier to legitimize our field and acquire funding to go after the harder targets, like the lake monsters and the hairy bipeds.</p>
<p>Anyway, just my 2 cents there, free of charge&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Loren Coleman</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/lorens-tops/comment-page-1/#comment-9411</link>
		<dc:creator>Loren Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Dec 2006 14:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I tend to think working at extremes in hypotheses in cryptozoology is full of sandtraps, pitfalls, and quicksand.  I no more think there are 1000 different species of Lake Monsters and Sea Serpents out there than I think there is &quot;one&quot; species of Sea Serpent.  This is the theme of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1585422525/ref=ase_cryptozoologi-20&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Field Guide to Lake Monsters, Sea Serpents, and Other Mystery Denizens of the Deep&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, which is an effort to boil down the material into some groupings.

Likewise, despite the universe of global names for &quot;Abominable Snowmen,&quot; &quot;Bigfoot,&quot; and &quot;Wild People,&quot; I can not subscribe to  &quot;most Abominables&quot; being &quot;only one species.&quot; Nor do I subdivide them by continent, but do see a difference between some types of hairy hominoids (both hominids and anthropoids) that may live in different areas, as per &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1933665122/ref=ase_cryptozoologi-20/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Field Guide to Bigfoot and Other Mystery Primates&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.

Collecting and recognizing the differences in focus as reflected in &quot;top ten&quot; lists not only serves to show the most credible to pursue, but also the most popular in the minds of the general public.  It says nothing about what cryptids may be &quot;worthy&quot; of searching for, funding, or studying more.  That is obviously up to each individual cryptozoologist.

There is a reason I ask for your choices, and I even appreciate the opinion of those who see no worth in this exercise at all.  :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to think working at extremes in hypotheses in cryptozoology is full of sandtraps, pitfalls, and quicksand.  I no more think there are 1000 different species of Lake Monsters and Sea Serpents out there than I think there is &#8220;one&#8221; species of Sea Serpent.  This is the theme of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1585422525/ref=ase_cryptozoologi-20" rel="nofollow"><em>The Field Guide to Lake Monsters, Sea Serpents, and Other Mystery Denizens of the Deep</em></a>, which is an effort to boil down the material into some groupings.</p>
<p>Likewise, despite the universe of global names for &#8220;Abominable Snowmen,&#8221; &#8220;Bigfoot,&#8221; and &#8220;Wild People,&#8221; I can not subscribe to  &#8220;most Abominables&#8221; being &#8220;only one species.&#8221; Nor do I subdivide them by continent, but do see a difference between some types of hairy hominoids (both hominids and anthropoids) that may live in different areas, as per <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1933665122/ref=ase_cryptozoologi-20/" rel="nofollow"><em>The Field Guide to Bigfoot and Other Mystery Primates</em></a>.</p>
<p>Collecting and recognizing the differences in focus as reflected in &#8220;top ten&#8221; lists not only serves to show the most credible to pursue, but also the most popular in the minds of the general public.  It says nothing about what cryptids may be &#8220;worthy&#8221; of searching for, funding, or studying more.  That is obviously up to each individual cryptozoologist.</p>
<p>There is a reason I ask for your choices, and I even appreciate the opinion of those who see no worth in this exercise at all.  <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: daledrinnon</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/lorens-tops/comment-page-1/#comment-9410</link>
		<dc:creator>daledrinnon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Dec 2006 10:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Part of the problem in all the lists is the definition of the individual forms listed. I use the species definition as far as can be told, and as such, cryptid lions in Africa, Asia and North America would be the same species and only one listing (for example) MOST Sea serpent sightings that are actually determinative in the first place are one species and the same species as the most clearly-defined type of freshwater &quot;serpents&quot;. The &quot;Serpent&quot; name is a description of the appearance of the wake and not the animal&#039;s back.

As to the other cryptids I would put on the list, MOST &quot;Abominables&quot; appear to me to be only one species, and I do not subdivide the reports by continent. Hence Asiatic Bigfoot is the same as American Bigfoot and so on. I would not list dozens of individual names for these.

In water monster categories, unknown fishes outnumber unknown mammals by a wide margin, yet they are poorly-publicized. Loren Coleman mentioned diverse giant catfishes in an article in FATE magazine, and unknown catfishes are reported on most of the continents. Yet few people have heard of them.

Few people recognize reports of cryptid freshwater rays when they see them.

Cryptid giant Salamanders have a wide distribution in the northern hemisphere, yet only a few (such as in California) ever get any attention.

I would not focus on the top ten or whatever number. ALL of them are worthy of investigation. We need to look beyond the media hype in ALL cases.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of the problem in all the lists is the definition of the individual forms listed. I use the species definition as far as can be told, and as such, cryptid lions in Africa, Asia and North America would be the same species and only one listing (for example) MOST Sea serpent sightings that are actually determinative in the first place are one species and the same species as the most clearly-defined type of freshwater &#8220;serpents&#8221;. The &#8220;Serpent&#8221; name is a description of the appearance of the wake and not the animal&#8217;s back.</p>
<p>As to the other cryptids I would put on the list, MOST &#8220;Abominables&#8221; appear to me to be only one species, and I do not subdivide the reports by continent. Hence Asiatic Bigfoot is the same as American Bigfoot and so on. I would not list dozens of individual names for these.</p>
<p>In water monster categories, unknown fishes outnumber unknown mammals by a wide margin, yet they are poorly-publicized. Loren Coleman mentioned diverse giant catfishes in an article in FATE magazine, and unknown catfishes are reported on most of the continents. Yet few people have heard of them.</p>
<p>Few people recognize reports of cryptid freshwater rays when they see them.</p>
<p>Cryptid giant Salamanders have a wide distribution in the northern hemisphere, yet only a few (such as in California) ever get any attention.</p>
<p>I would not focus on the top ten or whatever number. ALL of them are worthy of investigation. We need to look beyond the media hype in ALL cases.</p>
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		<title>By: Megatherium</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/lorens-tops/comment-page-1/#comment-9409</link>
		<dc:creator>Megatherium</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 07:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m going to assume that the Giant Squid was left off any of these lists because it is a recognized species?  Still, I wonder to what length natural science believes that architeuthis can grow and because of the extraordinary lengths that are sometimes reported either directly or indirectly (huge squid suction circles on dead whales) whether or not it could still qualify for &quot;the list.&quot;  I&#039;m sure if a 200 foot specimen washes up on shore it certainly would make crypto news channels!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to assume that the Giant Squid was left off any of these lists because it is a recognized species?  Still, I wonder to what length natural science believes that architeuthis can grow and because of the extraordinary lengths that are sometimes reported either directly or indirectly (huge squid suction circles on dead whales) whether or not it could still qualify for &#8220;the list.&#8221;  I&#8217;m sure if a 200 foot specimen washes up on shore it certainly would make crypto news channels!</p>
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		<title>By: Jac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d have to say...
1. Mothman
2. Dover Demon
3. Chupacabra
4. Beast of Gévaudan
5. Thylacine (Just started learning about it)
6. Nessie
7. The plethora of hairy bipeds (Bigfoot/Yeti/etc.)

There&#039;s my top seven. I find it difficult to research Nessie/Bigfoot; almost every picture I&#039;ve seen is obviously a hoax (almost all of the books in my school library are pre-1980, so they aren&#039;t very useful.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d have to say&#8230;<br />
1. Mothman<br />
2. Dover Demon<br />
3. Chupacabra<br />
4. Beast of Gévaudan<br />
5. Thylacine (Just started learning about it)<br />
6. Nessie<br />
7. The plethora of hairy bipeds (Bigfoot/Yeti/etc.)</p>
<p>There&#8217;s my top seven. I find it difficult to research Nessie/Bigfoot; almost every picture I&#8217;ve seen is obviously a hoax (almost all of the books in my school library are pre-1980, so they aren&#8217;t very useful.)</p>
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		<title>By: YourPTR!</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/lorens-tops/comment-page-1/#comment-9407</link>
		<dc:creator>YourPTR!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 13:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1. Bigfoot/Yowie
2. Plesiosaur
2. Thylacine
4. Mokele-Mbembe
5. Megalania
6. Steller&#039;s Sea Cow
7. Moa
8. Thunderbird
9. Mothman
10. Imperial Woodpecker]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Bigfoot/Yowie<br />
2. Plesiosaur<br />
2. Thylacine<br />
4. Mokele-Mbembe<br />
5. Megalania<br />
6. Steller&#8217;s Sea Cow<br />
7. Moa<br />
8. Thunderbird<br />
9. Mothman<br />
10. Imperial Woodpecker</p>
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		<title>By: mystery_man</title>
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		<dc:creator>mystery_man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve always had a particular interest in the Mongolian Death Worm. I tens to be a tad on the skeptical side as far as its actual existence is concerned, but it sure would be a fascinating creature if it were real.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always had a particular interest in the Mongolian Death Worm. I tens to be a tad on the skeptical side as far as its actual existence is concerned, but it sure would be a fascinating creature if it were real.</p>
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