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		<title>By: m_e_737</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/long-tails-bc/#comment-43714</link>
		<dc:creator>m_e_737</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 00:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Munnin,

I myself finally saw this animal since I posted my last comment. It was black with a long tail (maybe 15") but not as bushy as the others described and the tail didn't stand up but the animal kept it straight out parallel to the ground. It was about the size of a 50lb dog It has pointed ears, a feline type face, long muscular body and was not easily spooked like say a fox would be, I didn't notice a hump in the body but it might have been in a different pose when the others saw it like maybe stalking something. I would describe it as a cross between a bobcat with a long tail and a cougar but black in color. For years I have probably spent as much time in the NC woods as I have indoors and have never before seen anything like it. I hope this gives you more to go on. I am trying to borrow a infrared camera so I can get a good pic of it since it mostly seems to be active after dark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Munnin,</p>
<p>I myself finally saw this animal since I posted my last comment. It was black with a long tail (maybe 15&#8243;) but not as bushy as the others described and the tail didn&#8217;t stand up but the animal kept it straight out parallel to the ground. It was about the size of a 50lb dog It has pointed ears, a feline type face, long muscular body and was not easily spooked like say a fox would be, I didn&#8217;t notice a hump in the body but it might have been in a different pose when the others saw it like maybe stalking something. I would describe it as a cross between a bobcat with a long tail and a cougar but black in color. For years I have probably spent as much time in the NC woods as I have indoors and have never before seen anything like it. I hope this gives you more to go on. I am trying to borrow a infrared camera so I can get a good pic of it since it mostly seems to be active after dark.</p>
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		<title>By: Munnin</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/long-tails-bc/#comment-43713</link>
		<dc:creator>Munnin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>m_e_737 responds:

"...a feline type appearence with pointed ears, a long bushy tail that stands up and a humped rear section of its body and dark in color."

What size animal do these folks report? Without knowing that, this could possibly describe the American Mink, &lt;em&gt;Mustela vison&lt;/em&gt;. According to the web site of the American Society of Mammologists, these are uncommon, but distributed throughout the state of North Carolina.

Then again, most - but not all - of the images I can find of the American Mink do not show it with its tail standing up. Nor is the tail particularly "bushy," although it is covered with fur and not naked like the tails of beavers or possums, etc.

Interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>m_e_737 responds:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;a feline type appearence with pointed ears, a long bushy tail that stands up and a humped rear section of its body and dark in color.&#8221;</p>
<p>What size animal do these folks report? Without knowing that, this could possibly describe the American Mink, <em>Mustela vison</em>. According to the web site of the American Society of Mammologists, these are uncommon, but distributed throughout the state of North Carolina.</p>
<p>Then again, most - but not all - of the images I can find of the American Mink do not show it with its tail standing up. Nor is the tail particularly &#8220;bushy,&#8221; although it is covered with fur and not naked like the tails of beavers or possums, etc.</p>
<p>Interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: m_e_737</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/long-tails-bc/#comment-43712</link>
		<dc:creator>m_e_737</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in a heavily wooded area in NC and 4 different people have seen an animal described as having a feline type appearence with pointed ears, a long bushy tail that stands up and a humped rear section of its body and dark in color. We see fox bobcat, deer, racoons and even black bear here quite often so we would easily recognize any of those. Has anyone else seen anything that matched this description?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in a heavily wooded area in NC and 4 different people have seen an animal described as having a feline type appearence with pointed ears, a long bushy tail that stands up and a humped rear section of its body and dark in color. We see fox bobcat, deer, racoons and even black bear here quite often so we would easily recognize any of those. Has anyone else seen anything that matched this description?</p>
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		<title>By: dtart</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a resident of the area mentioned in this article. Regardless of what the mystery cat's true idenity was in 1951, there is a present day mystery in my geographic region begging to be answered. I know of, too many to mention, reliable witnesses of mountain lions in my area. These are honest people who grew up in the area, know all the local wildlife and most are avid hunters/trappers. Last year there were local photos of a mountain lion printed in the Bradford Era newspaper. The photos were shown to an expert and they were positively identified as a mountain lion. They are here living in the black forest area of PA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a resident of the area mentioned in this article. Regardless of what the mystery cat&#8217;s true idenity was in 1951, there is a present day mystery in my geographic region begging to be answered. I know of, too many to mention, reliable witnesses of mountain lions in my area. These are honest people who grew up in the area, know all the local wildlife and most are avid hunters/trappers. Last year there were local photos of a mountain lion printed in the Bradford Era newspaper. The photos were shown to an expert and they were positively identified as a mountain lion. They are here living in the black forest area of PA!</p>
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		<title>By: Munnin</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/long-tails-bc/#comment-43710</link>
		<dc:creator>Munnin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MattBille responds: "Chad, as I recall, had some other sources about cats like this and suggested N. America once had another small cat, recently gone extinct."

Well, there's the Jaguarundi, which can still be found in Texas and New Mexico, although it is rare nowadays. Apparently, like the Jaguar, it was once more widely distributed in North America. I see the genus listed, variously, as Felis, Puma, and Herpailurus. One source identifies the subspecies found in North America as Puma Yaguarondi Cacomitli. Having personally seen live individuals of this species in captivity, I can't imagine that they could be mistaken for a long-tailed bobcat. They don't look anything like a bobcat to me, and probably not to most people. I could easily imagine one being mistaken for a feral domestic kitty though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MattBille responds: &#8220;Chad, as I recall, had some other sources about cats like this and suggested N. America once had another small cat, recently gone extinct.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, there&#8217;s the Jaguarundi, which can still be found in Texas and New Mexico, although it is rare nowadays. Apparently, like the Jaguar, it was once more widely distributed in North America. I see the genus listed, variously, as Felis, Puma, and Herpailurus. One source identifies the subspecies found in North America as Puma Yaguarondi Cacomitli. Having personally seen live individuals of this species in captivity, I can&#8217;t imagine that they could be mistaken for a long-tailed bobcat. They don&#8217;t look anything like a bobcat to me, and probably not to most people. I could easily imagine one being mistaken for a feral domestic kitty though.</p>
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		<title>By: cryptidsrus</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bobcat/Domestic cat hybrid. Agree with the others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bobcat/Domestic cat hybrid. Agree with the others.</p>
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		<title>By: MattBille</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chad, as I recall, had some other sources about cats like this and suggested N. America once had another small cat, recently gone extinct.  There's nothing outlandish about the notion - small cats don't have the same problems big ones do with overlapping ranges.  The idea of an occasional bobcat with a long tail is perhaps more probable, but certainly less intriguing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chad, as I recall, had some other sources about cats like this and suggested N. America once had another small cat, recently gone extinct.  There&#8217;s nothing outlandish about the notion - small cats don&#8217;t have the same problems big ones do with overlapping ranges.  The idea of an occasional bobcat with a long tail is perhaps more probable, but certainly less intriguing.</p>
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		<title>By: Loren Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loren Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bobcat X domestic cat = Maine Coon Cat is a myth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bobcat X domestic cat = Maine Coon Cat is a myth.</p>
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		<title>By: kittenz</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the other hand, I really like the idea of another mystery felid in North America :-).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the other hand, I really like the idea of another mystery felid in North America :-).</p>
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		<title>By: kittenz</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, that is what I think too: that the long-tailed animals were probably bobcat/domestic hybrids.

I suppose it's not &lt;em&gt;impossible&lt;/em&gt; for bobcats to occasionally be born with long tails; after all, even people are occasionally born with tails. But I think that a bobcat/domestic hybrid is much more likely.

Perhaps it was a very young bobcat? The tails of bobcat kittens look longer, for their body size, than do the tails of adults. shumway10973 has a good point though: if the guy was a veteran trapper he would surely know the difference in an adult bobcat and a kitten</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that is what I think too: that the long-tailed animals were probably bobcat/domestic hybrids.</p>
<p>I suppose it&#8217;s not <em>impossible</em> for bobcats to occasionally be born with long tails; after all, even people are occasionally born with tails. But I think that a bobcat/domestic hybrid is much more likely.</p>
<p>Perhaps it was a very young bobcat? The tails of bobcat kittens look longer, for their body size, than do the tails of adults. shumway10973 has a good point though: if the guy was a veteran trapper he would surely know the difference in an adult bobcat and a kitten</p>
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