Comments on: Patterson’s Assassination http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/long-assassination/ for Bigfoot, Loch Ness, and More Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:05:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: YourPTR! http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/long-assassination/#comment-10474 YourPTR! Thu, 23 Nov 2006 04:57:20 +0000 http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/pattersons-character-assassination/#comment-10474 Chambers was adamant, during an interview shortly before his death, that he had absolutely nothing to do with the P/G film. This was the man of course who was the most competent make up artist/costume designer at the time the film was recorded and therefore the most likely to be able to pull off a hoax. But he said, not only did he have nothing to do with it, he only wished he was that good! (An executive from Disney also said they would not be able to recreate the film either!) So if Chambers, the one who was most capable of creating a successful hoax had nothing to do with the P/G film, the idea that a couple of cowboys from Yakima could have pulled off such a spectacular hoax by themselves that has fooled so many for so long seems quite preposterous! Chambers was adamant, during an interview shortly before his death, that he had absolutely nothing to do with the P/G film. This was the man of course who was the most competent make up artist/costume designer at the time the film was recorded and therefore the most likely to be able to pull off a hoax. But he said, not only did he have nothing to do with it, he only wished he was that good! (An executive from Disney also said they would not be able to recreate the film either!) So if Chambers, the one who was most capable of creating a successful hoax had nothing to do with the P/G film, the idea that a couple of cowboys from Yakima could have pulled off such a spectacular hoax by themselves that has fooled so many for so long seems quite preposterous!

]]> By: DWA http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/long-assassination/#comment-10473 DWA Wed, 22 Nov 2006 04:53:16 +0000 http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/pattersons-character-assassination/#comment-10473 I can't add a thing, except piling some more trash on to trash that deserves it. I read all the "little mans" in the preview on Amazon, and that did it for me. Long could be one of the bitterest people who ever lived. I still say this: there is only one way to debunk the Patterson-Gimlin film: recreate it, from scratch, with a man in a suit. Either: 1) you will show yourself a decidedly second-rate faker; or 2) we got a real live sasquatch here. I'm not acquainted much with Matt Crowley; maybe someone can help out here. He has an interesting interview on the SRI site, in which he says that Chambers made the suit out of "parts he had lying around," and that the actor in the suit "practiced a compliant gait." Huh!?!??!?!?! Not only could Grover Krantz tell when he talked to Patterson that he was in over his head when it came to that biomechanical stuff; isn't it the Patterson film that is the source of all we know about the animal's walk? Crowley does, unlike some, try to hold himself to standards. But he's way off here. I can’t add a thing, except piling some more trash on to trash that deserves it.

I read all the “little mans” in the preview on Amazon, and that did it for me. Long could be one of the bitterest people who ever lived.

I still say this: there is only one way to debunk the Patterson-Gimlin film: recreate it, from scratch, with a man in a suit.

Either:

1) you will show yourself a decidedly second-rate faker; or

2) we got a real live sasquatch here.

I’m not acquainted much with Matt Crowley; maybe someone can help out here. He has an interesting interview on the SRI site, in which he says that Chambers made the suit out of “parts he had lying around,” and that the actor in the suit “practiced a compliant gait.” Huh!?!??!?!?! Not only could Grover Krantz tell when he talked to Patterson that he was in over his head when it came to that biomechanical stuff; isn’t it the Patterson film that is the source of all we know about the animal’s walk?

Crowley does, unlike some, try to hold himself to standards. But he’s way off here.

]]> By: ToddPartain http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/long-assassination/#comment-10472 ToddPartain Tue, 21 Nov 2006 23:51:53 +0000 http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/pattersons-character-assassination/#comment-10472 I've always said, that IF the Patterson footage was fake, it's the best one ever and no one else has even come close. We recently shot a large, bigfoot suited individual on old motion picture film to emulate the look of the patterson footage for a documentary film, and in my own opinion,even though I was thrilled with my results, I failed to deliver as good a sequence as the Patterson footage. The writer(s) of this book need to get a life. I’ve always said, that IF the Patterson footage was fake, it’s the best one ever and no one else has even come close. We recently shot a large, bigfoot suited individual on old motion picture film to emulate the look of the patterson footage for a documentary film, and in my own opinion,even though I was thrilled with my results, I failed to deliver as good a sequence as the Patterson footage. The writer(s) of this book need to get a life.

]]> By: mystery_man http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/long-assassination/#comment-10471 mystery_man Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:14:57 +0000 http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/pattersons-character-assassination/#comment-10471 Another thing that would be interesting if this is a suit is why they would want to make one with breasts. For what? To make it more beleievable? Let's remember that not only would this had added to the expense of making the suit, but it would have also presented more chances for the thing to look fake. It just seems that making a suit that has breats would be an odd, expensive, and risky choice to make. If they had a suit with the musculature that Patty has, that looks as convincing as she does to so many people, why go through the added trouble of adding breasts? Another thing that would be interesting if this is a suit is why they would want to make one with breasts. For what? To make it more beleievable? Let’s remember that not only would this had added to the expense of making the suit, but it would have also presented more chances for the thing to look fake. It just seems that making a suit that has breats would be an odd, expensive, and risky choice to make. If they had a suit with the musculature that Patty has, that looks as convincing as she does to so many people, why go through the added trouble of adding breasts?

]]> By: mystery_man http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/long-assassination/#comment-10452 mystery_man Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:58:29 +0000 http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/pattersons-character-assassination/#comment-10452 Yeah, the idea that these guys got together and made a suit that has fooled everybody, including experts, for so long and that nobody can reproduce is about as preposterous as they claim the PG film to be. At what point does a skeptic's theories get as farfetched as they claim Bigfoot to be? Yeah, the idea that these guys got together and made a suit that has fooled everybody, including experts, for so long and that nobody can reproduce is about as preposterous as they claim the PG film to be. At what point does a skeptic’s theories get as farfetched as they claim Bigfoot to be?

]]> By: Roboo8 http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/long-assassination/#comment-10470 Roboo8 Tue, 21 Nov 2006 11:01:59 +0000 http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/pattersons-character-assassination/#comment-10470 I am going to say this again as I say it to everybody who says the Patterson film is a hoax. I want to see somebody else build a suit like the one in the film. If this guy in North Carolina did, have him make another one. It should be easy this time, after all he claims he made the first one. Even in Harry and the Hendersons, it looked like a man in a suit. Somebody should check Mr Heironimus' money background. I bet he is hurting for money. I am going to say this again as I say it to everybody who says the Patterson film is a hoax. I want to see somebody else build a suit like the one in the film. If this guy in North Carolina did, have him make another one. It should be easy this time, after all he claims he made the first one. Even in Harry and the Hendersons, it looked like a man in a suit. Somebody should check Mr Heironimus’ money background. I bet he is hurting for money.

]]> By: YourPTR! http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/long-assassination/#comment-10469 YourPTR! Tue, 21 Nov 2006 09:41:28 +0000 http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/pattersons-character-assassination/#comment-10469 If the film is such a fake why is it that no one can recreate it including the one who allegedly was in the suit? The BBC spent the most so far on trying to recreate the film but failed miserably. Their recreation attempt was obviously a man in a suit and looked nothing like the original. The creature in the P/G film just looks so massive, life like and difficult to hoax, especially when you consider this film is nearly 40 years old. If the film is such a fake why is it that no one can recreate it including the one who allegedly was in the suit? The BBC spent the most so far on trying to recreate the film but failed miserably. Their recreation attempt was obviously a man in a suit and looked nothing like the original. The creature in the P/G film just looks so massive, life like and difficult to hoax, especially when you consider this film is nearly 40 years old.

]]> By: YourPTR! http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/long-assassination/#comment-10468 YourPTR! Tue, 21 Nov 2006 09:23:25 +0000 http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/pattersons-character-assassination/#comment-10468 It's interesting you have commented on this book now as I was just reading yesterday the reviews to Long's book on Amazon. After reading them I am now more inclined to believe that what was filmed on that day was a real Bigfoot creature. It certainly looks real and Long's debunking attempt is far from convincing. It’s interesting you have commented on this book now as I was just reading yesterday the reviews to Long’s book on Amazon. After reading them I am now more inclined to believe that what was filmed on that day was a real Bigfoot creature. It certainly looks real and Long’s debunking attempt is far from convincing.

]]> By: barharborbigfoot http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/long-assassination/#comment-10467 barharborbigfoot Mon, 20 Nov 2006 22:00:29 +0000 http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/pattersons-character-assassination/#comment-10467 Your absolutely right. Greg Long's pitiful book is nothing but a character assassination aimed at making money. The book is a true travesty, and those of us who believe that his description of events is misguided need to say so publicly at ver opportunity. I thank you Loren for taking the time and energy to critique the book professionally. I hope Greg feels good picking a fight with someone who died thirty years ago. I think we all know who the "little man" is. Your absolutely right. Greg Long’s pitiful book is nothing but a character assassination aimed at making money. The book is a true travesty, and those of us who believe that his description of events is misguided need to say so publicly at ver opportunity. I thank you Loren for taking the time and energy to critique the book professionally. I hope Greg feels good picking a fight with someone who died thirty years ago. I think we all know who the “little man” is.

]]> By: matty777 http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/long-assassination/#comment-10466 matty777 Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:50:02 +0000 http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/pattersons-character-assassination/#comment-10466 The size of Patty is quite bulky. No way that is as suit! The size of Patty is quite bulky. No way that is as suit!

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