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		<title>By: dogu4</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can believe that either anadromous or catadromous marine life could be traveling to and from bodies of water on land. And in the case of some like eels, even a damp lawn during a soaking rain will be enough to travel across, and particularly at night they could go unnoticed. Crustaceans too are subject to complex and barely understood migratory patterns, if I recall.

As to size; I&#039;ve run across an article on growth and genetics which seem to suggest that the genes that control growth are more complex and subject to epigenetic factors to a larger degree than previously thought, which leads one to speculate about a whole raft of possibilities when it comes to the kinds of factors those could be, like dissolved chemical signatures from mineral springs that feed the lakes and streams or some other environmental factor like parasites which might effect the switching on and off of growth controlling genes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can believe that either anadromous or catadromous marine life could be traveling to and from bodies of water on land. And in the case of some like eels, even a damp lawn during a soaking rain will be enough to travel across, and particularly at night they could go unnoticed. Crustaceans too are subject to complex and barely understood migratory patterns, if I recall.</p>
<p>As to size; I&#8217;ve run across an article on growth and genetics which seem to suggest that the genes that control growth are more complex and subject to epigenetic factors to a larger degree than previously thought, which leads one to speculate about a whole raft of possibilities when it comes to the kinds of factors those could be, like dissolved chemical signatures from mineral springs that feed the lakes and streams or some other environmental factor like parasites which might effect the switching on and off of growth controlling genes.</p>
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		<title>By: mystery_man</title>
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		<dc:creator>mystery_man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 01:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dogu4- There are actually a few inflowing waterways into the lake, so I think it&#039;s at least feasible that an anadromous fish of some sort could possibly make it into the lake. This particular caldera lake is really quite ancient, so there has been adequate time for rivers to develop and for animals to have perhaps made use of these to go to the lake. The inflows are not particularly large, but it&#039;s possible. Unlike some of the other caldera lakes in Japan, which have sparse if any connecting streams or rivers, with Lake Kussharo anadromous fish life could be something to consider I suppose.

I was thinking the same thing about the volcanic activity leading to some sort of growth pattern in animals there. It&#039;s interesting you mention the giant crayfish, because if you look at the map I&#039;ve provided here, you will see that Lake Mashu (the home of those giant crayfish),  it just a stone&#039;s throw away from Lake Kussharo. They are located in the same national park.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dogu4- There are actually a few inflowing waterways into the lake, so I think it&#8217;s at least feasible that an anadromous fish of some sort could possibly make it into the lake. This particular caldera lake is really quite ancient, so there has been adequate time for rivers to develop and for animals to have perhaps made use of these to go to the lake. The inflows are not particularly large, but it&#8217;s possible. Unlike some of the other caldera lakes in Japan, which have sparse if any connecting streams or rivers, with Lake Kussharo anadromous fish life could be something to consider I suppose.</p>
<p>I was thinking the same thing about the volcanic activity leading to some sort of growth pattern in animals there. It&#8217;s interesting you mention the giant crayfish, because if you look at the map I&#8217;ve provided here, you will see that Lake Mashu (the home of those giant crayfish),  it just a stone&#8217;s throw away from Lake Kussharo. They are located in the same national park.</p>
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		<title>By: norman-uk</title>
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		<dc:creator>norman-uk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 23:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not  a sceptic but may appear so by my just writing about the pics without regard to their provenance. 
       The first picture, if it is not of something new and yet old, could be of two horses in a field nearly side by side. If you have tried counting horses you&#039;ll know what I mean.

      All the other pictures, look to me,  similar to pictures of an excited displaying male whale, in the mating season. All except one of the pictures show a line across the water which could suggest the mystery animal picture may have been planted. On the other hand, &#039;&#039; MAYBE THERE BE WHALES &#039;&#039; (or something)   I doubt any are swans as they swim on the surface not half submerged.

      Not being a breeding population at this time, would not rule out say there being something like a whale . It is reported they can live for 200 years and the lake monster could be the last of its kind, its family long gone. Perhaps a whale with legs, moving in the past from lake to lake or sea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not  a sceptic but may appear so by my just writing about the pics without regard to their provenance.<br />
       The first picture, if it is not of something new and yet old, could be of two horses in a field nearly side by side. If you have tried counting horses you&#8217;ll know what I mean.</p>
<p>      All the other pictures, look to me,  similar to pictures of an excited displaying male whale, in the mating season. All except one of the pictures show a line across the water which could suggest the mystery animal picture may have been planted. On the other hand, &#8221; MAYBE THERE BE WHALES &#8221; (or something)   I doubt any are swans as they swim on the surface not half submerged.</p>
<p>      Not being a breeding population at this time, would not rule out say there being something like a whale . It is reported they can live for 200 years and the lake monster could be the last of its kind, its family long gone. Perhaps a whale with legs, moving in the past from lake to lake or sea.</p>
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		<title>By: dogu4</title>
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		<dc:creator>dogu4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 11:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just curious, how is the lake connected to the rest of the area&#039;s hydrology? Is the lake&#039;s outlet a river which could conceivably serve as a conduit for some species of anadromous sealife, like an eel or lamprey. Just as with the previously mentioned sightings of giant crayfish-like crustaceans, perhaps the underwater environment&#039;s including mineral rich vents and springs might have some bearing on the growth pattern of animals that have migrated up small rivers and streams to mate or perhaps to enter into another stage in their developement in which growth is indeterminate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just curious, how is the lake connected to the rest of the area&#8217;s hydrology? Is the lake&#8217;s outlet a river which could conceivably serve as a conduit for some species of anadromous sealife, like an eel or lamprey. Just as with the previously mentioned sightings of giant crayfish-like crustaceans, perhaps the underwater environment&#8217;s including mineral rich vents and springs might have some bearing on the growth pattern of animals that have migrated up small rivers and streams to mate or perhaps to enter into another stage in their developement in which growth is indeterminate.</p>
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		<title>By: joe levit</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 16:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find that middle string of pictures interesting too. As Remus says above, the giraffe-like horns ARE mentioned on many sea serpent reports, such as ones of cadborosaurus in the Vancouver, BC area. I find it interesting that nearly ALL reports of serpentine lake monsters and fast-moving sea serpents discuss a horse, camel, or giraffe-like shape to the head. This diagnostic description lends an air of reliability about the sightings in the same way that similar descriptions lend credibility to bigfoot encounters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find that middle string of pictures interesting too. As Remus says above, the giraffe-like horns ARE mentioned on many sea serpent reports, such as ones of cadborosaurus in the Vancouver, BC area. I find it interesting that nearly ALL reports of serpentine lake monsters and fast-moving sea serpents discuss a horse, camel, or giraffe-like shape to the head. This diagnostic description lends an air of reliability about the sightings in the same way that similar descriptions lend credibility to bigfoot encounters.</p>
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		<title>By: mystery_man</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 02:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Springheeledjack- I was mistaken, the bottom photo of that series is separate from the rest. Apparently it is a still from video footage taken more recently, in 1990. The others are a string from the same sighting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Springheeledjack- I was mistaken, the bottom photo of that series is separate from the rest. Apparently it is a still from video footage taken more recently, in 1990. The others are a string from the same sighting.</p>
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		<title>By: mystery_man</title>
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		<dc:creator>mystery_man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Springheeledjack- I&#039;m glad you enjoyed this piece. A lot of the information available on Kusshi in English is surprisingly basic, and much of the information here I have gotten from Japanese sources. I&#039;m happy to hopefully be expanding the amount of English literature available on some of these Japanese cryptids. I really enjoy sharing these things with the readers here. 

That is a very good point about the way horses swim. For the most part it seems as if their body is practically submerged, however, there has been at least one sighting where someone was at first convinced that what they were seeing was a swimming horse. That being said, what you said is well worth considering.

I still think the top photo looks very horse-like, but it is too grainy to tell much, and it looks as if it has slight humps. Concerning the string of pictures, as far as I know, they are all part of a series, of the same creature, which makes them very interesting. I am fairly sure they are from the Hokkaido Broadcasting company Footage. The very bottom one looks as if it could be different, but the source listed them all together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Springheeledjack- I&#8217;m glad you enjoyed this piece. A lot of the information available on Kusshi in English is surprisingly basic, and much of the information here I have gotten from Japanese sources. I&#8217;m happy to hopefully be expanding the amount of English literature available on some of these Japanese cryptids. I really enjoy sharing these things with the readers here. </p>
<p>That is a very good point about the way horses swim. For the most part it seems as if their body is practically submerged, however, there has been at least one sighting where someone was at first convinced that what they were seeing was a swimming horse. That being said, what you said is well worth considering.</p>
<p>I still think the top photo looks very horse-like, but it is too grainy to tell much, and it looks as if it has slight humps. Concerning the string of pictures, as far as I know, they are all part of a series, of the same creature, which makes them very interesting. I am fairly sure they are from the Hokkaido Broadcasting company Footage. The very bottom one looks as if it could be different, but the source listed them all together.</p>
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		<title>By: springheeledjack</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have heard of Kusshi, but never had any detailed info on it, so thanks much!

The first picture, while grainy, does seem to fit the Nessie/Champ motif. And thanks also for the horse swimming picture, becauseeeeeeeeeeeeeee, it gives a good reference for what a horse swimming actually would look like. And if you notice, basically only the head is visible above the water, which is important to remember, because of the weight of the animal it is mostly underwater, which doesn&#039;t fit the first picture.

In the string of pictures following, I am not sure if they are all separate pictures of different sightings or a string of pictures in a single sighting. If they are separate takes, then the first one definitely could be a swan, given the unknown distance and lack of reference on size. But the others are interesting.

The environment also leads me to believe that perhaps something made its way into the lake after forming, perhaps a long necked pinniped. I gave up on the plesiosaur idea long ago, they seem too much of a niche predator in coastal or surface feeding grounds. HOWEVER, I am not above thinking that our mysterious water cryptids may be something that has evolved from that or down that line. Something like a long necked pinniped that was a more efficient hunter than plesiosaurs and eventually overtook them on the evolutionary line.

There seems to be a commonality to me between all of these lake critters. Brent, your description of the &quot;iffy-ness&quot; of the food source almost made me laugh, because it sounded like others describing the food scarcity within Loch Ness. And that leads me to this thought: with a commonality of Ness, Kussharo, Champlain, and countless others, I wonder if there isn&#039;t something in those waters that, while not indigenous, may have served as a perfect smaller eco system away from predators of the oceans.  

There are too many similarities in size, layout, depth, apparent low food sources, between these lakes and to me it is a piece of the larger puzzle. Something about that particular kind of environment that makes it perfect for a population of larger predators to make its home.

Anyway, thanks for the update from Japan. I&#039;m very happy we have you as a link to cryptids there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have heard of Kusshi, but never had any detailed info on it, so thanks much!</p>
<p>The first picture, while grainy, does seem to fit the Nessie/Champ motif. And thanks also for the horse swimming picture, becauseeeeeeeeeeeeeee, it gives a good reference for what a horse swimming actually would look like. And if you notice, basically only the head is visible above the water, which is important to remember, because of the weight of the animal it is mostly underwater, which doesn&#8217;t fit the first picture.</p>
<p>In the string of pictures following, I am not sure if they are all separate pictures of different sightings or a string of pictures in a single sighting. If they are separate takes, then the first one definitely could be a swan, given the unknown distance and lack of reference on size. But the others are interesting.</p>
<p>The environment also leads me to believe that perhaps something made its way into the lake after forming, perhaps a long necked pinniped. I gave up on the plesiosaur idea long ago, they seem too much of a niche predator in coastal or surface feeding grounds. HOWEVER, I am not above thinking that our mysterious water cryptids may be something that has evolved from that or down that line. Something like a long necked pinniped that was a more efficient hunter than plesiosaurs and eventually overtook them on the evolutionary line.</p>
<p>There seems to be a commonality to me between all of these lake critters. Brent, your description of the &#8220;iffy-ness&#8221; of the food source almost made me laugh, because it sounded like others describing the food scarcity within Loch Ness. And that leads me to this thought: with a commonality of Ness, Kussharo, Champlain, and countless others, I wonder if there isn&#8217;t something in those waters that, while not indigenous, may have served as a perfect smaller eco system away from predators of the oceans.  </p>
<p>There are too many similarities in size, layout, depth, apparent low food sources, between these lakes and to me it is a piece of the larger puzzle. Something about that particular kind of environment that makes it perfect for a population of larger predators to make its home.</p>
<p>Anyway, thanks for the update from Japan. I&#8217;m very happy we have you as a link to cryptids there!</p>
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		<title>By: mystery_man</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 01:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>norman-uk- That being said, I wouldn&#039;t say your idea is impossible. Like you say, stranger things have happened. Also, much of Hokkaido was once thought to be submerged into the sea, and fossils of ancient sea creatures have been found well inland. Also, the streams that now connect to the lake could have once been more substantial in ancient days, so I suppose any prehistoric creature that got caught inland as Hokkaido became more exposed from the sea might have been able to find their way to the lake at some point in the past. It&#039;s an interesting idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>norman-uk- That being said, I wouldn&#8217;t say your idea is impossible. Like you say, stranger things have happened. Also, much of Hokkaido was once thought to be submerged into the sea, and fossils of ancient sea creatures have been found well inland. Also, the streams that now connect to the lake could have once been more substantial in ancient days, so I suppose any prehistoric creature that got caught inland as Hokkaido became more exposed from the sea might have been able to find their way to the lake at some point in the past. It&#8217;s an interesting idea.</p>
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		<title>By: mystery_man</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 01:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, those alleged photos in the series are strange, and look very much like Nessie. The thing is, they don&#039;t really add up to the typical description for Kusshi. Most eyewitnesses do not describe a serpentine neck but rather a shorter, stockier one. The first photo above is more in keeping with descriptions. For this reason, I&#039;m a little suspicious of the series of photos that I added here. It seems almost as if someone is trying to emulate Nessie, and I get the feeling it could be a hoax, however, since they are evidence, I felt that to give a fair overview I had no choice but to post them for your consideration.

The subjects of the two sets of photos here certainly look like different creatures, as Richard888 pointed out, and the series looks like a creature not well represented by witness descriptions. So the series of photos points very well towards a creature with a serpentine neck, but the first one (although very grainy) is more representative of what Kusshi is supposed to look like according to eyewitnesses. In addition, I can&#039;t help but point out that the first photo looks reminiscent of a swimming horse. 

norman-uk- Yes, a shoal of fish has been proposed as a culprit, as I mentioned in the article. I completely agree that a large group of fish (or birds as you added), could look like a single organism and give that hypothesis some consideration. The only problem is the mention of distinct features such as a horse like head or dorsal fin. I wouldn&#039;t expect to see that on a school of fish.

As far as the lake being the home of creatures from the sea, there are only a few small inflowing streams into this lake, and it is a caldera lake in a volcano, so the chances of something traveling that route from the sea are slim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, those alleged photos in the series are strange, and look very much like Nessie. The thing is, they don&#8217;t really add up to the typical description for Kusshi. Most eyewitnesses do not describe a serpentine neck but rather a shorter, stockier one. The first photo above is more in keeping with descriptions. For this reason, I&#8217;m a little suspicious of the series of photos that I added here. It seems almost as if someone is trying to emulate Nessie, and I get the feeling it could be a hoax, however, since they are evidence, I felt that to give a fair overview I had no choice but to post them for your consideration.</p>
<p>The subjects of the two sets of photos here certainly look like different creatures, as Richard888 pointed out, and the series looks like a creature not well represented by witness descriptions. So the series of photos points very well towards a creature with a serpentine neck, but the first one (although very grainy) is more representative of what Kusshi is supposed to look like according to eyewitnesses. In addition, I can&#8217;t help but point out that the first photo looks reminiscent of a swimming horse. </p>
<p>norman-uk- Yes, a shoal of fish has been proposed as a culprit, as I mentioned in the article. I completely agree that a large group of fish (or birds as you added), could look like a single organism and give that hypothesis some consideration. The only problem is the mention of distinct features such as a horse like head or dorsal fin. I wouldn&#8217;t expect to see that on a school of fish.</p>
<p>As far as the lake being the home of creatures from the sea, there are only a few small inflowing streams into this lake, and it is a caldera lake in a volcano, so the chances of something traveling that route from the sea are slim.</p>
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