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	<title>Comments on: Loch Ness Expedition Member Marty Klein Visits Museum</title>
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		<title>By: red_pill_junkie</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/klein-icm/comment-page-1/#comment-78691</link>
		<dc:creator>red_pill_junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 20:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, I wasn&#039;t referring to Mr. Klein specifically in my last comment. Sorry if I didn&#039;t express it properly.

But Ok, I can give you other examples: Both Robert Goddard and Werner Von Braun got hooked up on science and rocketry because they both read War of the Worlds as children. Maybe as adults they no longer believed Martians existed --though if you ask a UFO buff, he might disagree ;)-- but I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if they held personal opinions with regards of life on other planets. 

The point I&#039;m trying to make is that even engineers were inspired by &lt;i&gt;something&lt;/i&gt; in their early age that coached them to pursue a career in engineering. And I&#039;d be willing to bet Mr. Klein was no different.

All true creativity &amp; innovation comes from applying things from a different field on to another in a different never-tried way. And that requires imagination. And imagination is not something that you just shut down when you leave the office.

As a personal aside, when my turn came to choose a career, I was divided between my love for science and my deep artistic sensibilities. I chose to study Design, which might tell you something about my predilection for the &#039;excluded middle&#039; in the Fortean world ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I wasn&#8217;t referring to Mr. Klein specifically in my last comment. Sorry if I didn&#8217;t express it properly.</p>
<p>But Ok, I can give you other examples: Both Robert Goddard and Werner Von Braun got hooked up on science and rocketry because they both read War of the Worlds as children. Maybe as adults they no longer believed Martians existed &#8211;though if you ask a UFO buff, he might disagree <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8211; but I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if they held personal opinions with regards of life on other planets. </p>
<p>The point I&#8217;m trying to make is that even engineers were inspired by <i>something</i> in their early age that coached them to pursue a career in engineering. And I&#8217;d be willing to bet Mr. Klein was no different.</p>
<p>All true creativity &amp; innovation comes from applying things from a different field on to another in a different never-tried way. And that requires imagination. And imagination is not something that you just shut down when you leave the office.</p>
<p>As a personal aside, when my turn came to choose a career, I was divided between my love for science and my deep artistic sensibilities. I chose to study Design, which might tell you something about my predilection for the &#8216;excluded middle&#8217; in the Fortean world <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Loren Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loren Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 20:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RPJ, wrong era for inspiration. 

The first regular episode of &lt;em&gt;Star Trek&lt;/em&gt; aired on Thursday, September 8, 1966.

Klein began work with Doc in 1961, and already had an experimental model of the side-scan sonar working in Boston Harbor by 1966.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RPJ, wrong era for inspiration. </p>
<p>The first regular episode of <em>Star Trek</em> aired on Thursday, September 8, 1966.</p>
<p>Klein began work with Doc in 1961, and already had an experimental model of the side-scan sonar working in Boston Harbor by 1966.</p>
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		<title>By: red_pill_junkie</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/klein-icm/comment-page-1/#comment-78689</link>
		<dc:creator>red_pill_junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 20:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[True. But I bet quite a lot of them got interested in engineering in the 1st place because of &lt;a href=&quot;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikinews/en/thumb/3/32/James_Doohan_1980s.jpg/220px-James_Doohan_1980s.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; fine gentleman ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True. But I bet quite a lot of them got interested in engineering in the 1st place because of <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikinews/en/thumb/3/32/James_Doohan_1980s.jpg/220px-James_Doohan_1980s.jpg" rel="nofollow">this</a> fine gentleman <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Loren Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loren Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 20:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ha ha, RPJ, it is obvious you don&#039;t know many engineers from MIT.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha, RPJ, it is obvious you don&#8217;t know many engineers from MIT.</p>
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		<title>By: red_pill_junkie</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/klein-icm/comment-page-1/#comment-78687</link>
		<dc:creator>red_pill_junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 20:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;Why would he wish to speculate on the possible biological origins or alignments of a cryptid when doing so would be completely out of his field of expertise?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Because that&#039;s what human beings do? we are driven by our dreams and our imagination; and even if engineers prevent their speculations from interfering with their technological expertise, they can still go home at night and ponder like the rest of us ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite=""><p>Why would he wish to speculate on the possible biological origins or alignments of a cryptid when doing so would be completely out of his field of expertise?</p></blockquote>
<p>Because that&#8217;s what human beings do? we are driven by our dreams and our imagination; and even if engineers prevent their speculations from interfering with their technological expertise, they can still go home at night and ponder like the rest of us <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Loren Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loren Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 19:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RPJ...Marty Klein is a brilliant person. Bright people know when to say something intelligent and when to not make stupid statements. 

Klein is an engineer. 

Why would he wish to speculate on the possible biological origins or alignments of a cryptid when doing so would be completely out of his field of expertise?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RPJ&#8230;Marty Klein is a brilliant person. Bright people know when to say something intelligent and when to not make stupid statements. </p>
<p>Klein is an engineer. </p>
<p>Why would he wish to speculate on the possible biological origins or alignments of a cryptid when doing so would be completely out of his field of expertise?</p>
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		<title>By: red_pill_junkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>red_pill_junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 19:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok, but what does he think Nessie might *be*? A plesiosaur? an eel? a seal? a sturgeon? 

It&#039;s alright to speculate if you alert people you&#039;re doing it beforehand ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, but what does he think Nessie might *be*? A plesiosaur? an eel? a seal? a sturgeon? </p>
<p>It&#8217;s alright to speculate if you alert people you&#8217;re doing it beforehand <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Loren Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loren Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 19:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marty Klein has not changed his mind about what he found during his side-scan work at Loch Ness in 1972.

His quotations at the time apply today:

&lt;em&gt;&quot;... real ... large ... moving ... trace indicating that the creature has several segments, body sections or projections such as humps,&quot;&lt;/em&gt; said Marty Klein of Klein Associates, and,

&lt;em&gt;&quot;... there are at least TWO large things moving,&quot;&lt;/em&gt; said Klein.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marty Klein has not changed his mind about what he found during his side-scan work at Loch Ness in 1972.</p>
<p>His quotations at the time apply today:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;&#8230; real &#8230; large &#8230; moving &#8230; trace indicating that the creature has several segments, body sections or projections such as humps,&#8221;</em> said Marty Klein of Klein Associates, and,</p>
<p><em>&#8220;&#8230; there are at least TWO large things moving,&#8221;</em> said Klein.</p>
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		<title>By: Novelhawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Novelhawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those photos (especially the flipper) are some of the best in the hunt for lake monsters, and have fueled my imagination for 30 years.

I would like to echo the comments above. What does Mr. Klein think today? I&#039;m hoping his visit to the museum indicates that his opinion of the evidence has not changed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those photos (especially the flipper) are some of the best in the hunt for lake monsters, and have fueled my imagination for 30 years.</p>
<p>I would like to echo the comments above. What does Mr. Klein think today? I&#8217;m hoping his visit to the museum indicates that his opinion of the evidence has not changed.</p>
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		<title>By: red_pill_junkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>red_pill_junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 19:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Like oldphilosopher, I too would like to know Klen&#039;s current perspective about Nessie and the investigations he carried out all those years ago.

I think the ICM should have some diorama or exhibition that would allow visitors to realize just how massive loch Ness really is, and how incredibly murky its waters are. 

Maybe using some goggles designed to insert several layers of &#039;smoked&#039; transparent acrylic, to show the visibility of the loch at different depths? Right now I&#039;m thinking of a sort of wooden box with 2 holes on one end for the eyes, and the other end open. But the top side of the box would have several thin grooves or slots which allow the insertion of 3mm acrylic pieces. Then you would coax the visitor to try to distinguish some target or object --maybe a little plesiousaur toy? ;)-- and slowly add the layers to show the different depths.

Cheap, and illustrative :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like oldphilosopher, I too would like to know Klen&#8217;s current perspective about Nessie and the investigations he carried out all those years ago.</p>
<p>I think the ICM should have some diorama or exhibition that would allow visitors to realize just how massive loch Ness really is, and how incredibly murky its waters are. </p>
<p>Maybe using some goggles designed to insert several layers of &#8216;smoked&#8217; transparent acrylic, to show the visibility of the loch at different depths? Right now I&#8217;m thinking of a sort of wooden box with 2 holes on one end for the eyes, and the other end open. But the top side of the box would have several thin grooves or slots which allow the insertion of 3mm acrylic pieces. Then you would coax the visitor to try to distinguish some target or object &#8211;maybe a little plesiousaur toy? <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8211; and slowly add the layers to show the different depths.</p>
<p>Cheap, and illustrative <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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