Comments on: Pick Johor Pix Panel

By: twblack

twblack — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 18:08:04 +0000

Well you all know what I have said in the past about wanting the pic’s. And as I said once is their only 1 person their that has a camera?? This is not looking very good.

By: fredfacker

fredfacker — Thu, 06 Jul 2006 14:06:19 +0000

The more I read about this, the more I wonder about all the background details of what’s going on. Maybe I’m missing an important piece of information, but from what I can tell, Chow has never actually seen the creatures. The photographs were taken by someone else. There’s so many scenarios playing in my mind. Perhaps the photo owner is demanding a large fee to use the photos and therefore Chow is trying to raise the money to pay for their publication. Perhaps the photo owner is conservation-minded and has only agreed to release the photos if the government will guarantee protection of this new species. Perhaps the photos are hoaxed and someone is taking Chow for the proverbial ride. I just wish I knew.

Anyway, I think my best guess is that Chow is still looking for funding and the reason he’s now calling it Johor Hominid and making all these speculations about its evolution, etc. is that it sounds much more credible and scientific to people than calling it Bigfoot. However, all these claims are nothing but total speculation until one is actually studied and DNA tested.

I’m really hoping that the Malaysian translation of the word “Biscardi” isn’t “Chow.”

By: youcantryreachingme

youcantryreachingme — Thu, 06 Jul 2006 02:16:51 +0000

In case the comments here get read before the comments on the Johor website, I’ll reproduce a suggestion I’ve just made there:

I think you (at Johorhominid.org) should label the image in your header - to keep it clear that this is not a Johor hominid. Alternatively, substitute it with one of the published illustrations of the Johor hominid.

By: LSU_Crypto

LSU_Crypto — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 19:43:26 +0000

Who are these supposed experts and what are their credentials? Are they PHD’s in anthropology, biology, zoology are some such field, or are they Bigfoot researchers. I think the panel should include real scientists with good reputations.

By: Jeremy_Wells

Jeremy_Wells — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 18:30:39 +0000

We also have to remember, though, that it has only been a few months since Peter Loh gave us those first drawings. I respect Chow wanting to get his “ducks in a row” before proceeding, but at this point, I fully agree that a select group of experts should be allowed to see the photos, provided they sign a standard non-disclosure agreement.

By: Jeremy_Wells

Jeremy_Wells — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 18:27:25 +0000

yeah… to keep viewers interested in new movies before they come out, they release “teasers”.

They also have screenings for critics and writers (prominent cryptozoologists in this case) so those folks can tell us whether we might be interested in seeing it or not.

From a purely economic point of view, if Chow wants to sell any books, he’d do well to remember this.

By: fredfacker

fredfacker — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 13:24:02 +0000

If they do have conclusive proof, the only reason I can figure that they are witholding it is because they’re trying to secure funding from someone or somewhere. When you have the monopoly on the info, you’re the most likely to get the funding. However, funding doesn’t come easy as I learned while trying to secure donors for a fine arts museum in Spring, TX. It’s possible that once they release the photos, everyone and their dog would be able to make a beeline for the location and do their own research.

That’s the only reason I can see (aside from fraud) that they’d be witholding the pictures.

By: sharmcos

sharmcos — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 12:22:24 +0000

Yes! I hope the team the Johor Government will send into the jungle will beat these people into publishing photo evidence of the creature..

By: shovethenos

shovethenos — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 04:55:07 +0000

Now the book’s a year or more away?

Sheesh. I realize they want to do it their way and achieve specific objectives that they have, but I hope they are aware there are concerns with them taking that long if they have legitimate photographic evidence:

(1) We could be talking about a critically endangered animal here, one that is a priceless treasure to all of mankind. The animal’s situation might be so precarious that immediate preservation and protection measures might be necessary. Delaying publication for a year or more could harm the animal’s chances of long-term survival.

(2) If the time frame is that long there is a real possibility that someone could “scoop” them - get pictures or video and go immediately to publication. I realize that this isn’t a game of “I got the first good picture”, but if there are economic concerns here there is a significant risk that someone could beat them to publication.

By: jamesrav

jamesrav — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 03:30:50 +0000

i don’t know why there’s a rush to know, it looks more and more like this will end badly. The recent articles about ‘reverse evolution’, the incorrect identification of an animal on their website, the much more likely orang explanation - this will be a colossal shock if it’s really the “greatest discovery” or whatever they’ve been saying recently.

Wasn’t the fairly recent embarassment about the 49′6″ (down to the inch!) reticulated python (which turned out to be more like 21 feet) out of this part of the world? Objective accuracy doesn’t appear to be up to the standards we are accustomed to.