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		<title>By: Brian Keyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Keyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 18:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guarantee that the animal is a puma.  They say that these animals are being seen in other places of the U.S. already. So why not in North Carolina.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guarantee that the animal is a puma.  They say that these animals are being seen in other places of the U.S. already. So why not in North Carolina.</p>
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		<title>By: DWA</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/iredell/comment-page-1/#comment-54038</link>
		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 16:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Several things.

1.  &quot;Gray&quot; is a really generic color.  I wouldn&#039;t dismiss something because the witness just said, gray.  Color perception comes into this, big time, and natural cougar coloration is not so far from gray that no one would report it that way.

2.  Long curly tail says cougar to me.

3.  I think the Eastern cougar population could easily have reached a point beyond which hunters weren&#039;t regularly encountering them anymore.  When you don&#039;t encounter them:  you stop looking; you stop getting and training dogs to hunt them; you stop bothering.  And when the deer get down there too, you just aren&#039;t going where they go (or you quit hunting and move to town); and the &quot;reliable&quot; sightings dry up.  And everything else just gets labeled &quot;outlier, and thereby not likely&quot;.

4.  The only way to deal with this that isn&#039;t utter nonsense on the part of wildlife managers is:  manage as if they are there.

Common sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several things.</p>
<p>1.  &#8220;Gray&#8221; is a really generic color.  I wouldn&#8217;t dismiss something because the witness just said, gray.  Color perception comes into this, big time, and natural cougar coloration is not so far from gray that no one would report it that way.</p>
<p>2.  Long curly tail says cougar to me.</p>
<p>3.  I think the Eastern cougar population could easily have reached a point beyond which hunters weren&#8217;t regularly encountering them anymore.  When you don&#8217;t encounter them:  you stop looking; you stop getting and training dogs to hunt them; you stop bothering.  And when the deer get down there too, you just aren&#8217;t going where they go (or you quit hunting and move to town); and the &#8220;reliable&#8221; sightings dry up.  And everything else just gets labeled &#8220;outlier, and thereby not likely&#8221;.</p>
<p>4.  The only way to deal with this that isn&#8217;t utter nonsense on the part of wildlife managers is:  manage as if they are there.</p>
<p>Common sense.</p>
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		<title>By: kittenz</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 03:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s really intriguing, garner919. Do you have any of the photos? What came of his report? Did anyone investigate it or take evidence for DNA testing, etc?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s really intriguing, garner919. Do you have any of the photos? What came of his report? Did anyone investigate it or take evidence for DNA testing, etc?</p>
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		<title>By: garner919</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 01:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in North Carolina and my uncle hit one of these cats.
The NC State &amp; Wildlife Commission has a program in to release the cats into the state because they believe the cougar became extinct in the area at one point.
After my uncle hit the cat he reported it and took pictures and it was indeed a cougar.ougar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in North Carolina and my uncle hit one of these cats.<br />
The NC State &amp; Wildlife Commission has a program in to release the cats into the state because they believe the cougar became extinct in the area at one point.<br />
After my uncle hit the cat he reported it and took pictures and it was indeed a cougar.ougar</p>
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		<title>By: kittenz</title>
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		<dc:creator>kittenz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 23:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no doubt that there are a few &quot;escaped pet&quot; cougars (what the heck, I may as well call a cougar a cougar; referring to them as &quot;pumas&quot; all the time is getting tiresome, and the subspecies name of the eastern puma is, after all, &lt;em&gt;Puma concolor cougar&lt;/em&gt; ;) ) . I suspect that even more of the cougars that people are seeing are former captive animals that have been deliberately released because their owners abandoned them when they became too large or aggressive to manage, or when they realized that they were breaking a law by having the cougar.

BUT I also feel certain that the eastern puma was never completely extirpated from the Appalachian mountains. They were systematically exterminated, and their habitat was all but destroyed in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, but I have no doubt that cougars have persisted all along in the laurel canyons and the more remote parts of the hills. There are parts of the Appalachians that are virtually inaccessible to humans, and with the past few decades the deer population has rebounded to the point that there are more deer than ever before. 

Almost certainly there are pumas also dispersing eastward from the western cougar population, and also some former captive cats are breeding with wild pumas. But the wild ones have been there all along - not very many of them, but their numbers are increasing. There is certainly enough prey and cover here in eastern Kentucky, and the mountains of western North Carolina are every bit as rugged and suitable for cougars. This whole region of the south-central Appalachians is perfect cougar habitat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no doubt that there are a few &#8220;escaped pet&#8221; cougars (what the heck, I may as well call a cougar a cougar; referring to them as &#8220;pumas&#8221; all the time is getting tiresome, and the subspecies name of the eastern puma is, after all, <em>Puma concolor cougar</em> <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) . I suspect that even more of the cougars that people are seeing are former captive animals that have been deliberately released because their owners abandoned them when they became too large or aggressive to manage, or when they realized that they were breaking a law by having the cougar.</p>
<p>BUT I also feel certain that the eastern puma was never completely extirpated from the Appalachian mountains. They were systematically exterminated, and their habitat was all but destroyed in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, but I have no doubt that cougars have persisted all along in the laurel canyons and the more remote parts of the hills. There are parts of the Appalachians that are virtually inaccessible to humans, and with the past few decades the deer population has rebounded to the point that there are more deer than ever before. </p>
<p>Almost certainly there are pumas also dispersing eastward from the western cougar population, and also some former captive cats are breeding with wild pumas. But the wild ones have been there all along &#8211; not very many of them, but their numbers are increasing. There is certainly enough prey and cover here in eastern Kentucky, and the mountains of western North Carolina are every bit as rugged and suitable for cougars. This whole region of the south-central Appalachians is perfect cougar habitat.</p>
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		<title>By: ogopogoman64</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 22:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whoa, finally someone is looking at N.C. big cats, if it was grey, it could&#039;ve been a cougar or mountain lion. As a resident of N.C., there are FOR SURE moutain lions/cougars in the mountains, AND, there are black panthers. Where i go camping near bentonville, there are black panthers because we&#039;ve seen them and there footprints. Also, there is a legend called the Wompass Cat, said to be a huge cat the size of a lion, that lives in the woods of N.C., but i&#039;m a little more skeptical on the Wompass Cat theory, but still glad someone saw a big cat here in NC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whoa, finally someone is looking at N.C. big cats, if it was grey, it could&#8217;ve been a cougar or mountain lion. As a resident of N.C., there are FOR SURE moutain lions/cougars in the mountains, AND, there are black panthers. Where i go camping near bentonville, there are black panthers because we&#8217;ve seen them and there footprints. Also, there is a legend called the Wompass Cat, said to be a huge cat the size of a lion, that lives in the woods of N.C., but i&#8217;m a little more skeptical on the Wompass Cat theory, but still glad someone saw a big cat here in NC</p>
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		<title>By: Ceroill</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/iredell/comment-page-1/#comment-54013</link>
		<dc:creator>Ceroill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 19:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heck, that was an old &#039;chestnut&#039; in the days of Charles Fort. Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heck, that was an old &#8216;chestnut&#8217; in the days of Charles Fort. Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: cryptidsrus</title>
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		<dc:creator>cryptidsrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 18:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also find the &quot;escaped zoo animal/pet/circus animal&quot; routine a tad old. 

Deep down, I think authorities know &quot;black panthers&quot; and cougars exist in that area but don&#039;t want to come out and say it. For a variety of reasons. One of them being the self-appointed &quot;animal guardians&quot; that would come out of nowhere to &quot;protect&quot; the beasts form the &quot;evil, malevolent&quot; hunters who might want to kill them. Also just general curiosity-seekers who might want to go out into the woods to catch a glimpse of these &quot;rarities.&quot; Nobody wants conflict in the area. 

Basically, I guess they feel it&#039;s best to leave theese creatures well enough alone for a time and let them fully establish a population in the area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also find the &#8220;escaped zoo animal/pet/circus animal&#8221; routine a tad old. </p>
<p>Deep down, I think authorities know &#8220;black panthers&#8221; and cougars exist in that area but don&#8217;t want to come out and say it. For a variety of reasons. One of them being the self-appointed &#8220;animal guardians&#8221; that would come out of nowhere to &#8220;protect&#8221; the beasts form the &#8220;evil, malevolent&#8221; hunters who might want to kill them. Also just general curiosity-seekers who might want to go out into the woods to catch a glimpse of these &#8220;rarities.&#8221; Nobody wants conflict in the area. </p>
<p>Basically, I guess they feel it&#8217;s best to leave theese creatures well enough alone for a time and let them fully establish a population in the area.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt_J</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 17:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, my wife saw a cougar/panther/puma on our property about a month ago now.  The following morning, we found a print.  Upon close inspection of the print, I found some hairs and extracted them carefully (so as to not contaminate them with my DNA).

I contacted the NC Wildlife Bureau about the story, and they never contacted me back.  So, to hear them chime in with the old song-and-dance of &quot;there&#039;s no more cougars in North Carolina&quot; doesn&#039;t surprise me.  It&#039;s complete and utter bull, but it doesn&#039;t surprise me.

Further research into the matter revealed that in December, two people in Chapel Hill reported a sighting.  August of 2007 a woman reported seeing a cougar near Jordan Lake eating a deer carcass.  So, there is precedent.  If they&#039;ve moved this far east, and are hanging out this close to the Triangle, it would not shock me that they would be in Iredell County.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, my wife saw a cougar/panther/puma on our property about a month ago now.  The following morning, we found a print.  Upon close inspection of the print, I found some hairs and extracted them carefully (so as to not contaminate them with my DNA).</p>
<p>I contacted the NC Wildlife Bureau about the story, and they never contacted me back.  So, to hear them chime in with the old song-and-dance of &#8220;there&#8217;s no more cougars in North Carolina&#8221; doesn&#8217;t surprise me.  It&#8217;s complete and utter bull, but it doesn&#8217;t surprise me.</p>
<p>Further research into the matter revealed that in December, two people in Chapel Hill reported a sighting.  August of 2007 a woman reported seeing a cougar near Jordan Lake eating a deer carcass.  So, there is precedent.  If they&#8217;ve moved this far east, and are hanging out this close to the Triangle, it would not shock me that they would be in Iredell County.</p>
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		<title>By: Brothermidnight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brothermidnight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 15:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I&#039;m from Iredell County and I can tell you that there are many more sightings happening in this and the surrounding county&#039;s   that dont make it to the papers. A lot people believe that the mountain lions are starting make a come back in this area .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I&#8217;m from Iredell County and I can tell you that there are many more sightings happening in this and the surrounding county&#8217;s   that dont make it to the papers. A lot people believe that the mountain lions are starting make a come back in this area .</p>
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