Certainly it’s not unreasonable to suggest a higher level of intelligence for sasquatch genus & species than the aforementioned species.

As far as twisted limbs are concerned, being a “macho” display of males, they aren’t just going to be twisting little shoots and saplings.

A 200 lb. Chimp is more than 7 times the strength of a man, a gorilla of 400 lb. more than 10 times the strength of a 200 lb. man. With reports of sasquatches swimming along the length of rivers against the current and swimming as much as 20 miles out to sea, carrying 300 lb. weights in one hand for 30 miles without resting or running as fast as a horse with 200 lbs under EACH arm (400 lb. total), how strong do you think they are as a multi mile foraging, mountain climbing forager/hunter compared to a comparatively sedentary lazy-butt chimp or gorilla? – Like comparing a sedentary desk locked couch potato executive with a body building weightlifter entering an Iron Man competition.

Just lb. for lb. a Sasquatch would have 2 or 3 times the muscle sinew density/strength and endurance of an African primate (explaining the numerous times they are reported to have been shot in the previous Century, even multiple times with gilded jecketed soft point lead 30.06 class weapons with little effect due to catastrophic bullet failure in the external muscle mass).

An 8 to 11 foot tall male “Bigfoot” weighing anywhere from let’s say 600 lbs. to 3 thousand lbs. would have a tree twisting strength from 40X, to in excess of a couple hundred times greater than that of the average man… Is there evidence of such strong tree limbs twisted with that corresponding level of strength?

Now, I want to say that I smoked like a freight train for 30 years or so and quit some years ago because so many of my friends were dropping dead of lung cancer, COPD and emphysema. Add to the smoking my many allergies that clog up my nose and entire resplratory system, and my sense of smell is almost completely gone. No more stopping to smell the roses for me! So I would only guess that Bigfoots have an excellent sense of smell or they couldn’t survive.

I think we can assume Sasquatch is a master of its environment. It instinctively can use scent, sound and sight probably much better than homo sapein and knows how to become invisible. A master of its environment with no tools.

Strangely humans neglect and abuse that wonderful sense of smell they possess. What a waste and what a loss to them.

Its interesting to watch deer unoticed and down wind, they shouldnt be able to smell you but sooner or later they often do because of wind eddies, not apparent to the watcher.

How on earth does Sasquatch, a supposed part predator manage? It surely cannot turn of all its smell? Perhaps it uses it in someway ?

If Sasquatch DNA continues to be collected this should/could build up a virtual halotype. But-science not being on board is it given proper respect and attention?

Hey. My style requires a thick skin.

Here was my point: my impressions WERE wrong. That is, they were impressions, backed by no evidence. Just like the impression from looking at P/G that that has to be more than an ape. (And there’s intelligent speculation that the orang is smarter than anything but us, at least by our standards of smart; so how far off was I? ) I simply don’t get the impression you do from that film. That it’s bipedal? Hey, BIRDS are bipedal. Some LIZARDS (and lots of dinosaurs) are bipedal. It works; so it shows up a lot. It makes no predictions about intelligence, emotion, spirituality or soul. It’s an adaptation. (I think wings are way cooler; but we seem to have more of a ’spark’ than anything that has them.)

I don’t see anything in the copious evidence I am aware of that suggests we’re dealing with anything other than a great ape that happens to be bipedal. Which is, mind you, quite enough for me. I think a lot of this they-must-be-more stuff comes from folks who don’t have a good grasp of the evidence – how much of it there is, and how very many people are seeing these animals. The presumption is: how can something like this never be seen? And the truth is, it IS being seen, by lots of average Joes. (A good bet with anything like this is that most encounters are never reported. Most of the ones I read were submitted years after the encounter.) Sasquatches get surprised; snuck up on; startled out of their wits; observed for long periods without knowing it; caught looking in kids’ bedroom windows; you name it.

People presume that lots of sightings amount to proof. They don’t come anywhere close to proof, until science steps in and says yep, that’s proof. And that’s a much more subjective – I don’t want to say arbitrary – process than people seem to think it is.

And thank goodness, you can have a relatively civilized discussion here without insults and disrespect, wouldn’t you agree?

I’d like to think so, under the better circumstances, yes.

I also agree that the forensic evidence (i.e. the footprint and handprint evidence) would be enough to convict a man in a court of law, if it were his foot or hand print found at the crime scene. But, again, its not enough to establish a holotype, and that is what we need.

Also, in addressing their ability to camouflage themselves, that is one of the aspects of the stealth I mentioned. Their coloration, for instance, reported as varying from dark to brown to reddish, is going to help them blend into the understory of dead brown leaves and rust colored pine needles, just as other animals do (the Lake Worth monster, which was reported as white, and therefore likely an albino if legitimate, being that notable “exception that proves the rule”). I know that I’ve, for instance, walked in on bedded down whitetail and never spotted them until they jumped and ran when I got too close, and I consider myself rather observant. I’ve even had them sneak in and bed down while I was sitting on stand, and I didn’t spot them until I spooked them while walking out, across a clearing I’ve been watching all day. So I’ve no doubt that a flesh and blood bigfoot could do the same. (Provided he/she kept the wind moving from you, to him, to mask that trademark scent. An idea that is not far fetched considering humans seem to be the only critters in the woods, in my experience, that have a problem figuring that rule out.)