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		<title>By: Johngbcdg</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/holmes-holes/comment-page-1/#comment-32072</link>
		<dc:creator>Johngbcdg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wshinhamjr,
Here is a video for you to view much like the holmes video
but taken in 2006.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=DFVXf1RrEac]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wshinhamjr,<br />
Here is a video for you to view much like the holmes video<br />
but taken in 2006.<br />
<a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=DFVXf1RrEac" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=DFVXf1RrEac</a></p>
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		<title>By: wshinhamjr</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/holmes-holes/comment-page-1/#comment-32071</link>
		<dc:creator>wshinhamjr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I still think this is a video of two (possibly more) otters of normal size swimming practically side by side at a rather far distance (about 100 yards or meters) out in the water from where Holmes is filming. Holmes is credible on is the color and distance of the objects. Other than the water is Loch Ness, I sadly just don&#039;t see anything remarkable at all about this video.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still think this is a video of two (possibly more) otters of normal size swimming practically side by side at a rather far distance (about 100 yards or meters) out in the water from where Holmes is filming. Holmes is credible on is the color and distance of the objects. Other than the water is Loch Ness, I sadly just don&#8217;t see anything remarkable at all about this video.</p>
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		<title>By: LanceFoster</title>
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		<dc:creator>LanceFoster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 02:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well. I read Mr. Gordon&#039;s page as well. His Nessie ideas are only one part of the exuberence that Mr. Holmes exhibits...&quot;Trice Visualization&quot; featuring &quot;Cartoon-like sketches&quot;, his neon-colored &quot;Technical Artwork&quot; &quot;compared&quot; by &quot;some People&quot; &quot;to a [David] Hockney!&quot; his belief that a basalt rock was a &quot;plesiosaur flipper&quot;, fairy images, and my favorite, &quot;Famous People whom I have shaken by the hand&quot;.I tried to figure this poor guy out. Mr. Holmes&#039; position is as a &quot;Media and IT Technician&quot; at the &lt;a title=&quot;University of Bradford&quot; href=&quot;http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/archsci/cgi-bin/staff.cgi?gtholmes&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;University of Bradford&lt;/a&gt;, part of the Technical Staff within &lt;a title=&quot;Archaelogical Sciences&quot; href=&quot;http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/archsci/depart/staff/staff.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Archaeological Sciences&lt;/a&gt;. His academic qualifications are not within archaeology however. &quot;YHAFHE(stage1)P/T Teacher-Training, HNC (elect.), HNC (mech.), FULL TECH (tech cert.)&quot; YHAFHE is the YORKSHIRE AND HUMBERSIDE ASSOCIATION FOR FURTHER AND HIGHER EDUCATION. HNC is the &lt;a title=&quot;Higher National Certificate&quot; href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higher_National_Certificate&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Higher National Certificate&lt;/a&gt; which is equivalent to the first year of college in the U.S..  &quot;In general a student with a pass profile from an appropriate HNC qualification will normally be eligible for acceptance to enter Stage 1 of a degree programme&quot; (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.brad.ac.uk/admin/acsec/QA_Hbk/QAH5_21.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Source&lt;/a&gt;).

It looks like Mr. Holmes took one year of college studies, to qualify in certain technical areas as well as teacher&#039;s training. No word if he ever went on with his studies, but he ended up being a lab tech, re-booting crashed computers and running Powerpoint, in an academic context that is extremely status-aware. Academics can often be rather insufferably snobbish; this sort of situation always creates an atmosphere of social climbing and status-seeking, elevating insecurities in people who didn&#039;t climb very high. Some invent status as researchers to feel better about their situation. So give the poor guy a break. Being around professors all the time and crunched under their academic jackboots can drive anyone a bit over the edge.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well. I read Mr. Gordon&#8217;s page as well. His Nessie ideas are only one part of the exuberence that Mr. Holmes exhibits&#8230;&#8221;Trice Visualization&#8221; featuring &#8220;Cartoon-like sketches&#8221;, his neon-colored &#8220;Technical Artwork&#8221; &#8220;compared&#8221; by &#8220;some People&#8221; &#8220;to a [David] Hockney!&#8221; his belief that a basalt rock was a &#8220;plesiosaur flipper&#8221;, fairy images, and my favorite, &#8220;Famous People whom I have shaken by the hand&#8221;.I tried to figure this poor guy out. Mr. Holmes&#8217; position is as a &#8220;Media and IT Technician&#8221; at the <a title="University of Bradford" href="http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/archsci/cgi-bin/staff.cgi?gtholmes" rel="nofollow">University of Bradford</a>, part of the Technical Staff within <a title="Archaelogical Sciences" href="http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/archsci/depart/staff/staff.html" rel="nofollow">Archaeological Sciences</a>. His academic qualifications are not within archaeology however. &#8220;YHAFHE(stage1)P/T Teacher-Training, HNC (elect.), HNC (mech.), FULL TECH (tech cert.)&#8221; YHAFHE is the YORKSHIRE AND HUMBERSIDE ASSOCIATION FOR FURTHER AND HIGHER EDUCATION. HNC is the <a title="Higher National Certificate" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higher_National_Certificate" rel="nofollow">Higher National Certificate</a> which is equivalent to the first year of college in the U.S..  &#8220;In general a student with a pass profile from an appropriate HNC qualification will normally be eligible for acceptance to enter Stage 1 of a degree programme&#8221; (<a href="http://www.brad.ac.uk/admin/acsec/QA_Hbk/QAH5_21.html" rel="nofollow">Source</a>).</p>
<p>It looks like Mr. Holmes took one year of college studies, to qualify in certain technical areas as well as teacher&#8217;s training. No word if he ever went on with his studies, but he ended up being a lab tech, re-booting crashed computers and running Powerpoint, in an academic context that is extremely status-aware. Academics can often be rather insufferably snobbish; this sort of situation always creates an atmosphere of social climbing and status-seeking, elevating insecurities in people who didn&#8217;t climb very high. Some invent status as researchers to feel better about their situation. So give the poor guy a break. Being around professors all the time and crunched under their academic jackboots can drive anyone a bit over the edge.</p>
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		<title>By: Tobar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tobar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, perfect ending for this Loren. *thumbs up*]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, perfect ending for this Loren. *thumbs up*</p>
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		<title>By: turk</title>
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		<dc:creator>turk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 07:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I&#039;m not seeing this head, neck, flippers, etc. either.  And I certainly can&#039;t see where people are getting two large objects out of this.  This video is about as indistinct as any I&#039;ve seen claiming to be the legendary monster.  As I stated in an earlier post, why didn&#039;t he zoom out for scale?  Supposedly he has some scientific background, so you&#039;d think he would know to do this.  As it is, it could be 2&#039; long or 50&#039; long.  Personally, I think it&#039;s a misidentification of a known animal.

And although it may not be entirely fair to just write this sighting off due to the exceedingly bizarre comments of the man who filmed it, I can&#039;t help but think that Cryptozoology will never be taken seriously in the slightest if this is typical of the average person who has a sighting.  This whole incident has done a lot more damage than good to the cause, in my opinion.  Not all publicity is good publicity in this case.  Let&#039;s put this one to bed and move on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;m not seeing this head, neck, flippers, etc. either.  And I certainly can&#8217;t see where people are getting two large objects out of this.  This video is about as indistinct as any I&#8217;ve seen claiming to be the legendary monster.  As I stated in an earlier post, why didn&#8217;t he zoom out for scale?  Supposedly he has some scientific background, so you&#8217;d think he would know to do this.  As it is, it could be 2&#8242; long or 50&#8242; long.  Personally, I think it&#8217;s a misidentification of a known animal.</p>
<p>And although it may not be entirely fair to just write this sighting off due to the exceedingly bizarre comments of the man who filmed it, I can&#8217;t help but think that Cryptozoology will never be taken seriously in the slightest if this is typical of the average person who has a sighting.  This whole incident has done a lot more damage than good to the cause, in my opinion.  Not all publicity is good publicity in this case.  Let&#8217;s put this one to bed and move on.</p>
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		<title>By: mfs</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 03:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice touch with &#039;&quot;The Cottingley Fairies.&quot; I&#039;m sure most readers here know the story behind them. In a way it relates to the continuing odyssey of of Gordon T. Holmes and his &quot;Your guess is as good as mine thing&quot; video. His credulity may have been stretched to its limits with some incredulous theories as mentioned. I&#039;ll wait for the film analysis to make any further and final judgements.

&quot;I have learned never to ridicule any man&#039;s opinion, however strange it may seem.&quot;- The Captains of the Polestar.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice touch with &#8216;&#8221;The Cottingley Fairies.&#8221; I&#8217;m sure most readers here know the story behind them. In a way it relates to the continuing odyssey of of Gordon T. Holmes and his &#8220;Your guess is as good as mine thing&#8221; video. His credulity may have been stretched to its limits with some incredulous theories as mentioned. I&#8217;ll wait for the film analysis to make any further and final judgements.</p>
<p>&#8220;I have learned never to ridicule any man&#8217;s opinion, however strange it may seem.&#8221;- The Captains of the Polestar.</p>
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		<title>By: kamoeba</title>
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		<dc:creator>kamoeba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 02:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The image on the video is an inconclusive blob (I don&#039;t care what anyone says, for the life of me I can&#039;t see a head, a mouth, a neck, flippers, a tail, lasers, a tow line, black holes, fairies or anything else that doesn&#039;t resemble a run-of-the-mill blob distored by light refracted through rolling waves).  The man behind it is completely and utterly bonkers.  The mass media gave him his 15 minutes of fame and we&#039;ve stretched it to 15 days.  I think it would be wonderful if Nessie exists, but this ain&#039;t the guy I&#039;m banking on to prove it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The image on the video is an inconclusive blob (I don&#8217;t care what anyone says, for the life of me I can&#8217;t see a head, a mouth, a neck, flippers, a tail, lasers, a tow line, black holes, fairies or anything else that doesn&#8217;t resemble a run-of-the-mill blob distored by light refracted through rolling waves).  The man behind it is completely and utterly bonkers.  The mass media gave him his 15 minutes of fame and we&#8217;ve stretched it to 15 days.  I think it would be wonderful if Nessie exists, but this ain&#8217;t the guy I&#8217;m banking on to prove it.</p>
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		<title>By: jerrywayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerrywayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 22:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would like to defend Mr. Holmes (a little) and offer other observations.

1. Mr. Holmes comes across as a quasi-Fortean, so it surprises me that folks here are dissing him so. In fact, his theories are not so much more far fetched or implausible than notions that the Spicer sighting might have been of a prehistoric whale, dragon, or waterhorse (especially given the fact that the last two are decidedly mythological). So, I second Richard888&#039;s comments above.

2. While it is unfortunate that Holmes is not as believable as the late Dinsdale, this may in fact prove paradoxically beneficial to his case. He is not a die-hard Nessie-believer on a holy grail quest, misidentifying a dingy at a distance, but a fellow apparently lark enough to stumble on to something.

3. What are we really saying here? He faked his video? I don&#039;t know about that. The video was shot at such a wide angle that it is hard to see how he may have faked it. On the other hand, he does mention tow wires! Egads!

4. The film is the most important film yet taken at Ness, I think. It&#039;s enhanced version is classic &quot;Nessie&quot;: single hump, long neck, small head. If it proves to be an otter or seal, then I think the game is up. If it proves to be fake, then it becomes worrisome and casts suspicion on other sightings (especially if Holmes is not in on the hoax). And if the film proves inconclusive, &quot;Nessie&quot; lives to frolic another day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to defend Mr. Holmes (a little) and offer other observations.</p>
<p>1. Mr. Holmes comes across as a quasi-Fortean, so it surprises me that folks here are dissing him so. In fact, his theories are not so much more far fetched or implausible than notions that the Spicer sighting might have been of a prehistoric whale, dragon, or waterhorse (especially given the fact that the last two are decidedly mythological). So, I second Richard888&#8242;s comments above.</p>
<p>2. While it is unfortunate that Holmes is not as believable as the late Dinsdale, this may in fact prove paradoxically beneficial to his case. He is not a die-hard Nessie-believer on a holy grail quest, misidentifying a dingy at a distance, but a fellow apparently lark enough to stumble on to something.</p>
<p>3. What are we really saying here? He faked his video? I don&#8217;t know about that. The video was shot at such a wide angle that it is hard to see how he may have faked it. On the other hand, he does mention tow wires! Egads!</p>
<p>4. The film is the most important film yet taken at Ness, I think. It&#8217;s enhanced version is classic &#8220;Nessie&#8221;: single hump, long neck, small head. If it proves to be an otter or seal, then I think the game is up. If it proves to be fake, then it becomes worrisome and casts suspicion on other sightings (especially if Holmes is not in on the hoax). And if the film proves inconclusive, &#8220;Nessie&#8221; lives to frolic another day.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard888</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard888</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 18:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmm, I like the tow wire concept. It&#039;s a great tool for offering a conventional explanation about those instantaneous spikes ahead of the moving object. Also, before we lay a nuttiness verdict on Mr. Holmes, let&#039;s not forget the untold millions out there who consider us all visitors to Cryptomundo pretty nutty too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, I like the tow wire concept. It&#8217;s a great tool for offering a conventional explanation about those instantaneous spikes ahead of the moving object. Also, before we lay a nuttiness verdict on Mr. Holmes, let&#8217;s not forget the untold millions out there who consider us all visitors to Cryptomundo pretty nutty too.</p>
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		<title>By: Ceroill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ceroill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting. I pretty much echo mystery_man&#039;s comments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. I pretty much echo mystery_man&#8217;s comments.</p>
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