Professionals should be able to work out a better estimate, using “Nessie’s” length relative to average wave length (which can be obtained from days with similar conditions) or from the non-zoomed shot in which both the creature and a portion of shoreline are visible. Since Holmes’s shooting position is known, and his camera can be used, a recreation of that shot with a marked gauge at “Nessie’s” position can be used to get a firmer length-estimate.

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“And what is there to suggest the presence of submerged body mass?”

Its apparent coherence and solidity through thirty seconds as it moved at a brisk speed through the water. True, it was fuzzy in the initial views, but it was suggestive enough to give it provisional credence, until more intense photo enhancement and stabilization had been done. (For which see the next thread in this discussion.)

I would go along with a big eel maybe a unknown type theory, plus the Phenomenon that is on that loch i think they are both seen by people, and that is why we get so many shapes of Nessie. I have also seen twice something crossing loch wake both sides that was some type of Living creature it was not a bird/otter etc this was big and moved with ease through the water.

It is good that so many people have kept an open opinion of me. I would be the first to admit I have been fluky, seeing a black Cat in the Yorkshire Dales (never said an Alien one). Unfortunately, that day I did not have my Camcorder. Also, I have captured fairly-like shapes/images in the heather, not real fairies I stress.

The real inquiry is, “What is it?”

Holmes may in part be describing entoptic patterns. These brightly colored visual patterns (sometimes known as “form constants”) are internally-generated during altered states of consciousness, or in the hypnopompic state between sleeping and waking (though it can also hold over into the waking state for a few minutes). I’ve had them frequently over the years. In my experience they are not at all the same as the vivid phosphene patterns you will perceive if you press down upon your closed eyes for several minutes.

J.D. Lewis-Williams and T.A. Dowson associated them with motifs found in Upper Paleolithic rock art. While it is often known as “geometric” imagery, the repeated motifs of lines, grids, nested spirals and other motifs are not totally linear. It has been speculated that the ancient carving of these motifs on rocks has been an effort to either remember the experience, or help induce a repeat of the experience in a sacred space.

The academic research on this has been hampered by occasional nonsense propounded by theoreticians who have not had the experience and appear to be unaware of states of consciousness that can be accessed without drugs or other external agents.

Altered States of Consciousness.

As for the alleged Nessie, there’s too much noise and too little signal for me to make any informed opinion.

At the end of the day, get the Experts to examine my evidence and hopefully they will prove nothing has been faked. I wouldn’t dare stick my neck out if I knew it was. Just for the record, this time I stated the object I captured on Video in Lochness was 4 to 5 foot long, not 45 foot long.

I am sure the Gordon T. Holmes footage is real.