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	<title>Comments on: Hoan Kiem&#8217;s Giant Turtle</title>
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		<title>By: CryptoInformant</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/hoan-kiems-giant-turtle/comment-page-1/#comment-1171</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Uh, what?!? Well the thing about mythical giants/demons is that, they really are mythical. Unlike some cryptids, there is no good evidence for them. Besides that, there is no evidence that technology greater than our own has ever existed on Earth. It took long periods of time to build the pyramids, and Stonehenge was no easy task. One thing we have today could make both fairly easy; cranes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, what?!? Well the thing about mythical giants/demons is that, they really are mythical. Unlike some cryptids, there is no good evidence for them. Besides that, there is no evidence that technology greater than our own has ever existed on Earth. It took long periods of time to build the pyramids, and Stonehenge was no easy task. One thing we have today could make both fairly easy; cranes.</p>
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		<title>By: chazmuz</title>
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		<dc:creator>chazmuz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2006 19:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This may sound a bit off subject, but I agree the turtle does look more seal-like than turtle-like.  If this animal is as old as suggested, it could be a link to supposed ancient times when mythical giants / demons interbred with mankind.  Who&#039;s to say that animals were&#039;t cross bred if the ancient stories are all correct?  It&#039;s apparent that technologies greater than our own existed in ancient times (the Egyptian pyramids, Stonehenge, etc.)  Maybe our fore-running cultures experimented in cross-breeding such as we&#039;re currently experimenting with cloning!?   Or perhaps this turtle is just a case of rather original appearance within its species?  Either way, a very cool and interesting study.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may sound a bit off subject, but I agree the turtle does look more seal-like than turtle-like.  If this animal is as old as suggested, it could be a link to supposed ancient times when mythical giants / demons interbred with mankind.  Who&#8217;s to say that animals were&#8217;t cross bred if the ancient stories are all correct?  It&#8217;s apparent that technologies greater than our own existed in ancient times (the Egyptian pyramids, Stonehenge, etc.)  Maybe our fore-running cultures experimented in cross-breeding such as we&#8217;re currently experimenting with cloning!?   Or perhaps this turtle is just a case of rather original appearance within its species?  Either way, a very cool and interesting study.</p>
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		<title>By: CryptoInformant</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/hoan-kiems-giant-turtle/comment-page-1/#comment-1169</link>
		<dc:creator>CryptoInformant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2006 00:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ilyo-
Thanks for the ID on the turtle! Now the only question remaining is how many there are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ilyo-<br />
Thanks for the ID on the turtle! Now the only question remaining is how many there are.</p>
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		<title>By: ilyo</title>
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		<dc:creator>ilyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 08:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[facts:

- this is a species of the genus Rafetus, better known as Bicallosite Soft-shelled turtles. There are several species within the genus.

- the Hoan Kiem soft-shelled turtle is either a separate species, called Rafetus leloii or the last of a population of  Rafetus swinhoei, the Shangai Softshell Turtle. The question on about what it exactly is, is for taxonomists, and is very common in the scientific world.

- if anyone would have actually gone to the lake in Hanoi personally, they would have seen a stuffed individual of this species which was caught decades ago. The animal is enormous and weighs over 200kg, as the other species in this poorly known genus .

- there is no question that the giant turtle was therefore present in hoan kiem lake. It is only a question wether an individual still lives there, and regular sightings say it does. For those visiting hanoi, they will see groups of people standing along the water and looking for it every single evening, when it is more likely to be reported. However, the lake is highly polluted and turbid, and the single specimen might well be diseased.

in any case, it is not a mythical animal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>facts:</p>
<p>- this is a species of the genus Rafetus, better known as Bicallosite Soft-shelled turtles. There are several species within the genus.</p>
<p>- the Hoan Kiem soft-shelled turtle is either a separate species, called Rafetus leloii or the last of a population of  Rafetus swinhoei, the Shangai Softshell Turtle. The question on about what it exactly is, is for taxonomists, and is very common in the scientific world.</p>
<p>- if anyone would have actually gone to the lake in Hanoi personally, they would have seen a stuffed individual of this species which was caught decades ago. The animal is enormous and weighs over 200kg, as the other species in this poorly known genus .</p>
<p>- there is no question that the giant turtle was therefore present in hoan kiem lake. It is only a question wether an individual still lives there, and regular sightings say it does. For those visiting hanoi, they will see groups of people standing along the water and looking for it every single evening, when it is more likely to be reported. However, the lake is highly polluted and turbid, and the single specimen might well be diseased.</p>
<p>in any case, it is not a mythical animal.</p>
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		<title>By: CryptoInformant</title>
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		<dc:creator>CryptoInformant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 00:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[shovthenos-
Thanks for the info, and Archelon certainly did have more of a leathery shell than a hard, armor plated one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shovthenos-<br />
Thanks for the info, and Archelon certainly did have more of a leathery shell than a hard, armor plated one.</p>
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		<title>By: shovethenos</title>
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		<dc:creator>shovethenos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2006 05:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CryptoInformant-

Like other soft-shelled turtles it has a nose built like a snorkel, it just has to poke the tip out of the water. If it is still around it likely has no problem finding reedy areas, hollow portions of bank, overhangs, etc. to do this in hiding.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CryptoInformant-</p>
<p>Like other soft-shelled turtles it has a nose built like a snorkel, it just has to poke the tip out of the water. If it is still around it likely has no problem finding reedy areas, hollow portions of bank, overhangs, etc. to do this in hiding.</p>
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		<title>By: CryptoInformant</title>
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		<dc:creator>CryptoInformant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2006 04:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m just wondering how it usually escapes attention, because Archelon probably had to surface every 2 or 3 hours.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just wondering how it usually escapes attention, because Archelon probably had to surface every 2 or 3 hours.</p>
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		<title>By: CryptoInformant</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/hoan-kiems-giant-turtle/comment-page-1/#comment-1164</link>
		<dc:creator>CryptoInformant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2006 04:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s real all right, and if that lake&#039;s as shallow as it is small on the surface, then there aren&#039;t very many. It appears to be rather like a giant sea turtle, maybe a surviving Archelon.
Shell Measurements for Archelon:
10ft long
5ft wide
3ft tall]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s real all right, and if that lake&#8217;s as shallow as it is small on the surface, then there aren&#8217;t very many. It appears to be rather like a giant sea turtle, maybe a surviving Archelon.<br />
Shell Measurements for Archelon:<br />
10ft long<br />
5ft wide<br />
3ft tall</p>
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		<title>By: cary charles</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/hoan-kiems-giant-turtle/comment-page-1/#comment-1163</link>
		<dc:creator>cary charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2006 03:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did anyone ever hear about the giant turtle spotted in 1956 or &#039;57?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone ever hear about the giant turtle spotted in 1956 or &#8217;57?</p>
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		<title>By: shovethenos</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/hoan-kiems-giant-turtle/comment-page-1/#comment-1162</link>
		<dc:creator>shovethenos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 19:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Appears to be authentic. Googled and there are more pictures. Amazing. Hope there are more out there and this isn&#039;t the last one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Appears to be authentic. Googled and there are more pictures. Amazing. Hope there are more out there and this isn&#8217;t the last one.</p>
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