(Until you show me a DNA sample connected to a type specimen, all it is is a DNA sample. Still need the specimen.)

When you are done with the BFRO database, move on to the TBRC database and the John Green database. Anyone who doesn’t consider that evidence doesn’t understand what the word means, whether they know that or not.

- those who stand for the integrity of science and wish for this to play out and are open enough to place faith in the scientific method and believe that if it is followed, the result will be satisfying no matter what

- those who stand for the integrity of science and, from the outside, believe that every step of the process, as executed by ketchum and her associates, looks like a foolish circus and can’t bear to even think that she may have discovered something due to the ludicrous handling of the situation and her relative lack of academic credentials

Let’s mix them. Here’s me.

- those who stand for the integrity of science and wish for this to play out and are open enough to place faith in the scientific method and believe that if it is followed, the result will be satisfying no matter what. That said, they believe that every step of the process, as executed by ketchum and her associates, looks like a foolish circus, and are wondering what this is going to mean in terms of the execution of the process, to say nothing of the seriousness that will be attached to the results, whatever they may be.

(Goodfoot: I’m not so sure you aren’t on the money either, at least from the sasquatch’s standpoint.)

asecretcountry: given how it’s been done the last 50 years, you aren’t surprised are you? I’m sure not. Actually it is looking rather good, because the approach has finally changed. But I’ll let you do the research. I already have.

(Which is why I have zero money on Ketchum. That ain’t where to put it.)

To all those getting so exercised about this, remember: Nothing has happened. Diary your file up to the last week in January and see if we know anything more by then. Dr. Sykes’ research may even be released by then (although it now seems he is taking the holidays off), which might make a comparison necessary and very exciting. In the meanwhile, spend your productive time reading the encounter reports on the BFRO site. Those deserve your attention a whole lot more, in my opinion.

When you “see” disagreement… that’s just what smart people DO.

why all this stupid nonsense?

It all just WREAKS of fakeness and non-professionalism.

I don’t think people should get so upset with each other, nobody has been kicked in the shins, therefore there’s no reason to be angry. Open discussion and debate is a wonderful thing, being open minded doesn’t mean you’re not intelligent, it means you’re even more likely to learn new things. What if bigfoot isn’t real? Hasn’t all the mystery and wonder been fun? What if bigfoot is real? How amazing we’ve all been logged into our computers while they watch us through the window giggling because we don’t even notice them!

norman-uk responds:
December 12th, 2012 at 3:39 am
asecretcountry
Well you have only been waiting less than 4 years I and many others have waited and watched much longer-since 1967 when we saw the p/g film on BBC news and have watched painfully slow progress since.

Wrong big time..
Never assume anything..
I have waited since around that date as well

There is clearly a prima facia case for a large hominid (?) running about N America and elsewhere.

We are talking about Ketchums claims.
Why do people keep vainly trying to move the goal posts.?

The land is awash with evidence

Great..when the Ketchum DNA train crashes..you will be here to admit you were wrong on that??
Don’t answer..no one else does.
But gosh golly..”we are about to find something”..

but unfortunately not people with enough security or vision to grasp the wonderful

Wrong..there are too many people that don’t hide from the previous 30 years of claims and nothing…and are more than aware of the problems in these areas.
If reality is a lack of vision..then god help us.

Those of a scientific bent are easily misled by sceptics whose opposition is not scientific if the same critical analysis is applied to their output.

THere is no reason to try and swing this post to problems in the fields of sciences per se.So don’t try.
It has zero to do with this topic/thread.

Dr Ketchum has the guts to tackle the hugh problem of dna miracle

And you know this because..??
Ketchum..at this stage..in this reality..still..has nothing.
If that makes me a hater..for dealing with the reality..then so be it.

So in my book Dr ketchum even at this stage comes out a heroine !

Thats what scares me..she has made the whole field look even more ridiculous.
She is a heroine/godsend to the sceptic community for this fact.
And you think she is helping your “cause” as well.?

DWA responds:
December 12th, 2012 at 11:22 am
“And if this happens..will her most prolific fan base come here with a mea culpa..?????”

Ketchup aside, I can’t wait until the day the sasquatch is confirmed. Boooy are some people going to look…well, many words for it, but I wouldn’t want to be any of them.

Look, the supporters are already trying to softly ditch ketchup..”it did not matter will be the new meme”
The old..”just you wait..one day..we will have something”..has been said..since the Patterson footage..
It aint looking good tiger is it..