Comments on: Guide Rock Monster, 1884 http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/guiderock-1884/ for Bigfoot, Loch Ness, and More Thu, 18 Mar 2010 08:52:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Ceroill http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/guiderock-1884/comment-page-1/#comment-51630 Ceroill Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:39:16 +0000 http://www.cryptomundo.com/?p=11501#comment-51630 Ok, two comments right off. One is the probably obvious reference to Native American tales of giant snakes or what we might call lake monsters. On the other hand, I can't resist: Otters! Ok, two comments right off.

One is the probably obvious reference to Native American tales of giant snakes or what we might call lake monsters.

On the other hand, I can’t resist: Otters!

]]> By: dogu4 http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/guiderock-1884/comment-page-1/#comment-51626 dogu4 Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:26:32 +0000 http://www.cryptomundo.com/?p=11501#comment-51626 Interesting story. It could be of course be just another example of misidentification or mirage (common over water)...but it's worth noting that since the end of the pleistocene there have been many changes to the periglacial landscape we see now in this nice warm interglacial we're experiencing these days. Surely during that time (covering a couple of million years in contrast to our modern Holocene times which barely span ten thousand years) species existed that are now gone; extinct in the case of mammoths and giant sloths, and not long ago surprisingly giant earthworms which had adapted to the semi-arid grasslands within the Pleistocene's vast windborne sand-deposition belts which would have constituted a large ecosystem, remnants of which are still found in Washington states Palouse region which is famous for it loess deposits, but who knows what was living in the periglacial aquatic realm associated with the now-gone meltwater ecosystem that dominated the northen hemisphere for most of that time. Surely the observation that big animals require big ecosystems was valid then as now, and the glacial landscape of the ice age was one of the biggest on earth and anything but sterile. The meltwater from glaciers and the debris accumulating on the top of the continental glacier that would have been an almost permanent feature with itsown . I suspect it would have been quite verdant with lots of sun, water and soil during the temperate summertime...those descriptions and illustrations showing images of greenland's interior or antarctica's glacial mountains submerged except for the odd archipelago of nunataks when creating a picture of the mile thick sheets of ice that once covered so much of the northern N.America and Eurasia are speculative and somewhat misleading, as there are no temperate continental glaciers currently, and so we can't know for sure, but it's not likely these flowing conveyor-belt-like sheets of ice and debris were supporting polar climates all year long. The cold water that would have continuously poured off of the glacial front would make quick work of any fracture in limestone deposits over which it resided, the glacier's cold and acidic waters chemically eroded some very extensive cave systems, which we do know exist and yet are beyond our ability to explore currently. Interesting story. It could be of course be just another example of misidentification or mirage (common over water)…but it’s worth noting that since the end of the pleistocene there have been many changes to the periglacial landscape we see now in this nice warm interglacial we’re experiencing these days. Surely during that time (covering a couple of million years in contrast to our modern Holocene times which barely span ten thousand years) species existed that are now gone; extinct in the case of mammoths and giant sloths, and not long ago surprisingly giant earthworms which had adapted to the semi-arid grasslands within the Pleistocene’s vast windborne sand-deposition belts which would have constituted a large ecosystem, remnants of which are still found in Washington states Palouse region which is famous for it loess deposits, but who knows what was living in the periglacial aquatic realm associated with the now-gone meltwater ecosystem that dominated the northen hemisphere for most of that time. Surely the observation that big animals require big ecosystems was valid then as now, and the glacial landscape of the ice age was one of the biggest on earth and anything but sterile. The meltwater from glaciers and the debris accumulating on the top of the continental glacier that would have been an almost permanent feature with itsown . I suspect it would have been quite verdant with lots of sun, water and soil during the temperate summertime…those descriptions and illustrations showing images of greenland’s interior or antarctica’s glacial mountains submerged except for the odd archipelago of nunataks when creating a picture of the mile thick sheets of ice that once covered so much of the northern N.America and Eurasia are speculative and somewhat misleading, as there are no temperate continental glaciers currently, and so we can’t know for sure, but it’s not likely these flowing conveyor-belt-like sheets of ice and debris were supporting polar climates all year long. The cold water that would have continuously poured off of the glacial front would make quick work of any fracture in limestone deposits over which it resided, the glacier’s cold and acidic waters chemically eroded some very extensive cave systems, which we do know exist and yet are beyond our ability to explore currently.

]]> By: Samson77 http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/guiderock-1884/comment-page-1/#comment-51619 Samson77 Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:09:22 +0000 http://www.cryptomundo.com/?p=11501#comment-51619 Manbearpig Manbearpig

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