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		<title>By: shumway10973</title>
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		<dc:creator>shumway10973</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 06:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, I think the last 2 are more what "they" should look like.  The 2 just below the picture make it look either like a really hairy person or like something out of star trek, doesn't look primate-like at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, I think the last 2 are more what &#8220;they&#8221; should look like.  The 2 just below the picture make it look either like a really hairy person or like something out of star trek, doesn&#8217;t look primate-like at all.</p>
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		<title>By: bill green</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 08:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi scmarlowe good early morning very interesting reply posted above about the swamp ape ie sasquatch. i would be very interested in hearing all about your investigations of those 2 new sightings you mentioned above your previous post. yes i do definetly agree with your above swamp ape post.also i would be very interested in hearing all about your resent swamp ape field research trips in florida  swamps .and possible swamp ape evidence that you found resently. again keep us informed ok.:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi scmarlowe good early morning very interesting reply posted above about the swamp ape ie sasquatch. i would be very interested in hearing all about your investigations of those 2 new sightings you mentioned above your previous post. yes i do definetly agree with your above swamp ape post.also i would be very interested in hearing all about your resent swamp ape field research trips in florida  swamps .and possible swamp ape evidence that you found resently. again keep us informed ok.:)</p>
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		<title>By: scmarlowe</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/greenswape/#comment-3744</link>
		<dc:creator>scmarlowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 16:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for clearing up the details about the production and its airing, Ken.

If responsible investigators need more information about Jennifer's sighting, they are welcome to contact me directly.

While I have closed her case officially, I am working on two other cases in the same geography at this time.  As you know, Ken, our work in the Green Swamp is now on going and we have developed an interesting body of evidence for that vicinity -- all of which is, so far, pointing to my contention that we are looking at an animal that is a BHP (Bigfoot), but NOT a Sasquatch as that term applies to the animal frequently seen in the Pacific Northwest.

You will note that I am using the nomenclature of Bigfoot as meaning a Bipedal, Hairy Primate and not as a species specific identity.  You all may infer from that, that I no longer accept Dr. Krantz' attribution as Gigantopithicus Blackii as the single candidate for all Bigfoot.  In fact, I do not accept GB as a potential explanation for any BHP at this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for clearing up the details about the production and its airing, Ken.</p>
<p>If responsible investigators need more information about Jennifer&#8217;s sighting, they are welcome to contact me directly.</p>
<p>While I have closed her case officially, I am working on two other cases in the same geography at this time.  As you know, Ken, our work in the Green Swamp is now on going and we have developed an interesting body of evidence for that vicinity &#8212; all of which is, so far, pointing to my contention that we are looking at an animal that is a BHP (Bigfoot), but NOT a Sasquatch as that term applies to the animal frequently seen in the Pacific Northwest.</p>
<p>You will note that I am using the nomenclature of Bigfoot as meaning a Bipedal, Hairy Primate and not as a species specific identity.  You all may infer from that, that I no longer accept Dr. Krantz&#8217; attribution as Gigantopithicus Blackii as the single candidate for all Bigfoot.  In fact, I do not accept GB as a potential explanation for any BHP at this time.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Gerhard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Gerhard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 18:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The program that will feature a reenactment of Jennifer Ward's sighting is called Legend Hunters: Bigfoot and it should appear on the Travel Channel later this year. When the producers asked me for a recent sighting to reenact, Jennifer's encounter came straight to mind. I had met her at Scott's field study and she struck me as quite an ordinary person, who had witnessed something remarkable. Florida's swamp ape is only a small part of the show however, because the majority of footage was shot in Texas and Louisiana, along with a small segment shot in northern California.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The program that will feature a reenactment of Jennifer Ward&#8217;s sighting is called Legend Hunters: Bigfoot and it should appear on the Travel Channel later this year. When the producers asked me for a recent sighting to reenact, Jennifer&#8217;s encounter came straight to mind. I had met her at Scott&#8217;s field study and she struck me as quite an ordinary person, who had witnessed something remarkable. Florida&#8217;s swamp ape is only a small part of the show however, because the majority of footage was shot in Texas and Louisiana, along with a small segment shot in northern California.</p>
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		<title>By: One Eyed Cat</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/greenswape/#comment-3742</link>
		<dc:creator>One Eyed Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 14:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well it sounds from your description of Jennifer's drawings and Matt having so much to work from that Jennifer has a wonderful eye for detail.  That can be good for the researchers, but very stressful for a witness seeing something they cannot explain.  I hope she can get rest from it now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it sounds from your description of Jennifer&#8217;s drawings and Matt having so much to work from that Jennifer has a wonderful eye for detail.  That can be good for the researchers, but very stressful for a witness seeing something they cannot explain.  I hope she can get rest from it now.</p>
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		<title>By: scmarlowe</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/greenswape/#comment-3741</link>
		<dc:creator>scmarlowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 22:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should see the other twenty-some drawings that Jennifer did in her sketch pads!

When we selected these, she felt that they best represented the animal -- prior to Matt Ellis' rendition being undertaken -- when the papers asked for illustrative art.

There are also details she did of hands, muscles and so forth.  Matt had a lot to work with in addition to consultations with Jennifer during the rendering process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should see the other twenty-some drawings that Jennifer did in her sketch pads!</p>
<p>When we selected these, she felt that they best represented the animal &#8212; prior to Matt Ellis&#8217; rendition being undertaken &#8212; when the papers asked for illustrative art.</p>
<p>There are also details she did of hands, muscles and so forth.  Matt had a lot to work with in addition to consultations with Jennifer during the rendering process.</p>
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		<title>By: sasquatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>sasquatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 21:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I didn't want to make it sound like Jennifers pics were based on conjecture and assumptions, just the ones afterward. It's true;  not being able to draw well doesn't mean you're  lying. When I was little I caught a gigantic crawdad that no-one believed me about and if I'd drawn a picture it probably would have sucked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I didn&#8217;t want to make it sound like Jennifers pics were based on conjecture and assumptions, just the ones afterward. It&#8217;s true;  not being able to draw well doesn&#8217;t mean you&#8217;re  lying. When I was little I caught a gigantic crawdad that no-one believed me about and if I&#8217;d drawn a picture it probably would have sucked.</p>
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		<title>By: scmarlowe</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/greenswape/#comment-3739</link>
		<dc:creator>scmarlowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 14:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Jennifer first saw it, the animal was crouching down and watching something intensely (which is why, we gather, that it didn't notice her at first).  It raised up when it saw her in her vehicle.

The adjacent area was awash after the storm except for the path back to the woods and creek -- where it had come from.  This was across the street from where it was seen.

North or south would have taken it up or down the road (Moore Road). West would have taken the creature into residential yards where it would have encountered dogs on the other side of two homes. Those residences are partially concealed behind tall plant growth from the sighting point.

Thus, Jennifer effectively cut off the animal's prefered escape route.

We assume that it was looking for food when seen, but it did not have anything in it's hands when seen by Jenn as she drove by it slowly.

There are stories of Swamp Apes being seen by commercial fishermen off 10,000 Islands and by sport fishermen near Boca Grande in the water swimming between islands.  These areas are much farther south of Lakeland and on the west coast of Florida.

It is assumed that they catch and eat fish, but I have not heard of any sightings where they have been seen doing so.

They have been reported to have caught and killed deer and boor, as well as domesticated hog and chickens (so we presume they eat them).  They have also been associated with cattle and are frequently seen in conjunction with ranch land here.  Some people believe that they are responsible for some unexplained cattle deaths where partially consumed carcasses are found.

In order to have evolved the kind of intelligence they exhibit, it is a safe bet that they are at least omniverous as comnsuming animal protein is one of the hallmarks of a higher predator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Jennifer first saw it, the animal was crouching down and watching something intensely (which is why, we gather, that it didn&#8217;t notice her at first).  It raised up when it saw her in her vehicle.</p>
<p>The adjacent area was awash after the storm except for the path back to the woods and creek &#8212; where it had come from.  This was across the street from where it was seen.</p>
<p>North or south would have taken it up or down the road (Moore Road). West would have taken the creature into residential yards where it would have encountered dogs on the other side of two homes. Those residences are partially concealed behind tall plant growth from the sighting point.</p>
<p>Thus, Jennifer effectively cut off the animal&#8217;s prefered escape route.</p>
<p>We assume that it was looking for food when seen, but it did not have anything in it&#8217;s hands when seen by Jenn as she drove by it slowly.</p>
<p>There are stories of Swamp Apes being seen by commercial fishermen off 10,000 Islands and by sport fishermen near Boca Grande in the water swimming between islands.  These areas are much farther south of Lakeland and on the west coast of Florida.</p>
<p>It is assumed that they catch and eat fish, but I have not heard of any sightings where they have been seen doing so.</p>
<p>They have been reported to have caught and killed deer and boor, as well as domesticated hog and chickens (so we presume they eat them).  They have also been associated with cattle and are frequently seen in conjunction with ranch land here.  Some people believe that they are responsible for some unexplained cattle deaths where partially consumed carcasses are found.</p>
<p>In order to have evolved the kind of intelligence they exhibit, it is a safe bet that they are at least omniverous as comnsuming animal protein is one of the hallmarks of a higher predator.</p>
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		<title>By: J-Foisy</title>
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		<dc:creator>J-Foisy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 12:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks as though The creature is clutching something.  Swamp area - could be a fish.  Is there any other known sightings where the creature may have been foraging for fish or other aqatic life?  In all the reports that I have reviewed I can't recall of any.  Just a thought.  I am interested in the eating habits (if any) that are reported in sightings.  Partially eaten food could have bite marks that could help investigators.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks as though The creature is clutching something.  Swamp area - could be a fish.  Is there any other known sightings where the creature may have been foraging for fish or other aqatic life?  In all the reports that I have reviewed I can&#8217;t recall of any.  Just a thought.  I am interested in the eating habits (if any) that are reported in sightings.  Partially eaten food could have bite marks that could help investigators.</p>
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		<title>By: scmarlowe</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/greenswape/#comment-3737</link>
		<dc:creator>scmarlowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 05:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all due respect, the words you chose have connotations that lead one to the conclusions I drew.

You're suggesting that all the drawings are "assumptions" and "conjecture".  That doesn't apply to work done by an eyewitness -- no matter how amateur their abilities.  Neither do the terms apply when the eyewitness works with an artist directly and approves every stroke of the pencil, pen or brush as a representation of their experience.

The terms do properly apply to subsequent renderings done second hand and beyond -- which is why I noted the misconceptions represented in Mr. Klyver's art.

We aren't talking about impressionism here as an artistic technique, we're dealing with realism as far as the medium will allow.

Even photography is subject to question as the P-G film continually demonstrates.

You might want to consider a more tactful approach in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect, the words you chose have connotations that lead one to the conclusions I drew.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re suggesting that all the drawings are &#8220;assumptions&#8221; and &#8220;conjecture&#8221;.  That doesn&#8217;t apply to work done by an eyewitness &#8212; no matter how amateur their abilities.  Neither do the terms apply when the eyewitness works with an artist directly and approves every stroke of the pencil, pen or brush as a representation of their experience.</p>
<p>The terms do properly apply to subsequent renderings done second hand and beyond &#8212; which is why I noted the misconceptions represented in Mr. Klyver&#8217;s art.</p>
<p>We aren&#8217;t talking about impressionism here as an artistic technique, we&#8217;re dealing with realism as far as the medium will allow.</p>
<p>Even photography is subject to question as the P-G film continually demonstrates.</p>
<p>You might want to consider a more tactful approach in the future.</p>
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