Rex’s associate got in touch with me to say that Rex did make some pretty fantastic finds while he was here in New Zealand.
I have however seen nothing about these finds in any of the local media nor has any evidence of them been presented to me for examination by photographs or otherwise.
I do admit I was informed that the Gilroy’s tried to contact me while they were here in New Zealand, regrettably they were unable to do so as I was tied up with a family crisis at the time.

I’m therefore unable to comment on what Rex did or did not find.

It would certainly be wonderful, and I think most people would agree, if there were Moa in the Hawkes Bay area.

I am forced to ask myself however if Rex has found this proof why has he not notified the appropriate authorities, being the Department of conservation to arrange for some protection of the area and the birds. That would be the appropriate channels to go through.

I must also ask if the evidence is so solid why has it not been examined by specialists in the field and DOC who would in this situation mount a search of the area with appropriate skilled conservation staff.

In a lot of ways I respect Rex’s work, and dedication, all that can be asked is that this proof be put before professionals who if there is anything there will guarantee its conservation and continuation.

Tony Lucas
NZ cryptozoologist

“Why does the crypto community insist that this creature is Gigantopithecus blacki when we don’t even know if it was bidpedal”

And all this based on a few teeth and jaw bones! LMAO

I totally agree with you on that Gianganto theory and hate the fact that people just seem to agree with it without knowing much about Gianganto!

Regarding the PG footage! I used to 100% believe the footage was legit but now I’m no longer sure?!? I can only say that the vocalizations I’ve experienced (would be hard for a human to do) and the hand print and feet prints I’ve come across (unless done by a human to fool me, which would be really tricky aswell due to the dermal ridges and depth of the prints in the type of earth they were done in, it whatever it was had to weigh a whole lot) seems to me that the PG footage is a fake! As you’ve mentionned he went looking for it and after 40 years and all our current technology we cant even come close! If I hadnt experienced my own experience I would right off this whole phenomenon as being a hoax!

My point is that instead of arguing about these creatures we should be carrying out investigations to see whether creatures currently exist that could match these reports.

For example;

Chinese Wildman - the orangutan’s distribution was spread over vast tracts of asia in the not too distant past & is a strong possibilty that unknown pockets of these creatures could have survived to the present day in China.

Why does the crypto community insist that this creature is Gigantopithecus blacki when we don’t even know if it was bidpedal, yes, if it was then may fit the some eye witness reports, if not, should it be ruled out.

Unfortunately the politics of the cryptozoological community have to force the identification of Gigantopithecus blacki on the rest of the community as it is a current favourite for the identification of Bigfoot & it is certainly a big money spinner!

Other eye witness reports for the wildman include witnesses describing it as big, round bellied with red hair which describes an orang.

Bigfoot - I’m sorry but the Patterson film looked a fake back in the 70s, isn’t it interesting that he actively went looking for it & managed to find one, producing the only bit of tangible evidence to show up in years.

Motion detectors, infra red cameras have produced nothing since - willing something to exist I’m afraid just doesn’t cut it with the mainstream science community.

In Australia, Rex Gilroy certainly polarises the cryptozoological community; he has his strong supporters and vocal detractors. He certainly feels persecuted - his last self-published book (’The Yowie Mystery’) contains page upon page of (thinly veiled) barbs targeted at just about every other yowie researcher in the country. Interestingly, while other books on the yowie mystery (Malcolm Smiths, mine and Tony Healy’s) mention and acknowledge other active local researchers, Rex’s books only ever seem to mention…Rex!

And to yetimead, I’d add that I have serious doubts that the giant lizard stories are a legitimate Australian cryptids. I’ve been in the field in Australia for 30 years and I’ve never come across an old report or modern witness in any of my travels. Makes you think!

When others are attacked, they calmly trot out more evidence.

Guess which ones I pay attention to?

What should be happening is applying, investigating & matching old reports with current scientific thinking to prove that cryptozoolgy has a poistive role to play in todays world.

well said and agreed.

but then, that would mean setting aside the personality wars in favor of doing the dirty, in-the-field, scientifically tedious job of analysis vs. opinion and facts vs. factoids in context, right?

oh well, it was a good idea…

Rex Gilroy is berated by those who say that giant lizards cannot exist & yet expouse a theory that the Yowie, Australia’s bigfoot is a true, living, breathing animal without any scientific proof or fossil record to support it.

Megalania actually existed.

No wonder the mainstream scientific community doesn’t take us seriously.

Unless cryptozoologists change their attitude in their persistance that every unknown creature can be explained as a living dinosaur, then the science will fade into obscurity.

Has anyone wondered why there has been no new definitive cryto book that has been published within the last 10 years that concerntrates on taking the subject forward, 99% of the books go over regurgitatedold reports that bring nothing new.

What should be happening is applying, investigating & matching old reports with current scientific thinking to prove that cryptozoolgy has a poistive role to play in todays world.

The colossal squid that is currently being examined by a team of scientists
is suppose to be a juvenile, as this squid doesn’t seem to suffer the same buoyancy problems as Architeuthis, then this may give weight to this squid attacking boats in the past.

There is also the MonsterQuest evidence of a giant squid 60′+ videoed in the sea of Cortez which would be a 1st for either Architeuthis or the colossal squid. Unless it is a giant version of the Humboldt squid.

Seriously if you’re going to be in this field better be ready for criticism and if you cant take the heat get out of the kitchen! I know! I’ve personally already gone through it on a smaller scale and needed to overcome it, all in a certain time period of course, as they say time heals all wounds. The more one gets involved and gets to know other cryptozoologist or so called experts in this field, the more one sees the world of cryptozoology is just like everything else, high school all over again! I can only hope Rex keeps his chin up and keeps on searching whether the feedback is positive or negative.