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		<title>By: Opalman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Opalman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 04:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I look upon the phylogenetic assumptions of many modern academics as so much wishful thinking. Looking backwards in time requires as much astute and logical imagination as paleological discovery.  Is sasquatch a example of a remnant population of Gigantopithecus? Who the hell knows, I don’t, neither do any of you, (academics included). To decree that the Gigantopithecus of millennium ago was a strict vegetation  for instance is foolish. Because the creature ate salad (bamboo) does not mean he didn’t enjoy it with an occasional steak. The very structural nature of the course bamboo would leave the observed silica filled (opal phytoliths) dentition, but certainly, that does little to indicate the entirety of the creatures diet. To suggest that ‘Giganto’ subsisted entirely on bamboo  is a perfect example of agenda driven scientific reasoning. Perhaps meat leaves behind some observable residue on millennia old teeth I’m not aware of. I doubt it.
The Gigantopithecus question as it relates to sasquatch is fraught with speculation and agenda driven opinion, pseudo-science and one half-baked assertion.

One poster parrots the speculation that Gigantopithicus could not have migrated across and southward through Beringia because of the abundance of predators there. Well then how did man come to migrate southerly through Beringia. By extension of that logic man even with his advanced intelligence, would not have been able to survive the deadly haunts of short faced bears, large lions, saber tooth tigers etc. either. This is to totally fail in understanding even the present day relationship between apex predators and man. 

A very large manlike (relatively cunning and intelligent), bipedal creature would have a significant advantage in successfully navigating the land and evading or eliminating particular predators. In fact the existence of large predators would encourage a species adaptation through growing to a very large size. Such adaptational growth in large mammals in response to predation threats is not without precedent. And in fact there are several ecological stressors that were and are extant within the Northwestern biotope.

If we look at the question from the other direction and ask ourselves; would the sasquatch of today as we have come to think of it—intelligent, formidable if need be, cautious, observant, hyper vigilant, fast, able to quickly climb limbless trees; (hint-hint) possessing incredible strength and if that weren’t enough; thoroughly nocturnal; be able to exist in a relatively kind climate (Ancient Beringia) populated by abundant apex predators and even early man—the answer would have to be an unequivocal YES.

While we may never know the exact relationship between what was probably a bipedal ape of enormous proportions and sasquatch, we have to make a connection between what has been contemporarily observed in the description of sasquatch and what has been speculatively proposed in the construction of Gigantopithicus blackii models. To conclude that  Gigantopithicus died out as a result of competing hominids or predators is at this point totally baseless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look upon the phylogenetic assumptions of many modern academics as so much wishful thinking. Looking backwards in time requires as much astute and logical imagination as paleological discovery.  Is sasquatch a example of a remnant population of Gigantopithecus? Who the hell knows, I don’t, neither do any of you, (academics included). To decree that the Gigantopithecus of millennium ago was a strict vegetation  for instance is foolish. Because the creature ate salad (bamboo) does not mean he didn’t enjoy it with an occasional steak. The very structural nature of the course bamboo would leave the observed silica filled (opal phytoliths) dentition, but certainly, that does little to indicate the entirety of the creatures diet. To suggest that ‘Giganto’ subsisted entirely on bamboo  is a perfect example of agenda driven scientific reasoning. Perhaps meat leaves behind some observable residue on millennia old teeth I’m not aware of. I doubt it.<br />
The Gigantopithecus question as it relates to sasquatch is fraught with speculation and agenda driven opinion, pseudo-science and one half-baked assertion.</p>
<p>One poster parrots the speculation that Gigantopithicus could not have migrated across and southward through Beringia because of the abundance of predators there. Well then how did man come to migrate southerly through Beringia. By extension of that logic man even with his advanced intelligence, would not have been able to survive the deadly haunts of short faced bears, large lions, saber tooth tigers etc. either. This is to totally fail in understanding even the present day relationship between apex predators and man. </p>
<p>A very large manlike (relatively cunning and intelligent), bipedal creature would have a significant advantage in successfully navigating the land and evading or eliminating particular predators. In fact the existence of large predators would encourage a species adaptation through growing to a very large size. Such adaptational growth in large mammals in response to predation threats is not without precedent. And in fact there are several ecological stressors that were and are extant within the Northwestern biotope.</p>
<p>If we look at the question from the other direction and ask ourselves; would the sasquatch of today as we have come to think of it—intelligent, formidable if need be, cautious, observant, hyper vigilant, fast, able to quickly climb limbless trees; (hint-hint) possessing incredible strength and if that weren’t enough; thoroughly nocturnal; be able to exist in a relatively kind climate (Ancient Beringia) populated by abundant apex predators and even early man—the answer would have to be an unequivocal YES.</p>
<p>While we may never know the exact relationship between what was probably a bipedal ape of enormous proportions and sasquatch, we have to make a connection between what has been contemporarily observed in the description of sasquatch and what has been speculatively proposed in the construction of Gigantopithicus blackii models. To conclude that  Gigantopithicus died out as a result of competing hominids or predators is at this point totally baseless.</p>
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		<title>By: cryptomaniac</title>
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		<dc:creator>cryptomaniac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a beautiful model of what could have been in existence back then, but not quite what people report when they encounter a Bigfoot/Gigantopithecus of today. One of the biggest details given as we all know aside from its massive height and weight is its ability to walk upright just like us. This model to me looks more like an oversized gorilla, and as sad as this sounds gorillas are tracked and killed all the time, while on the other hand Bigfoot is obviously very elusive and probably very intelligent as well. I don&#039;t think this model has anything to do with the the Bigfoot people are encountering today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a beautiful model of what could have been in existence back then, but not quite what people report when they encounter a Bigfoot/Gigantopithecus of today. One of the biggest details given as we all know aside from its massive height and weight is its ability to walk upright just like us. This model to me looks more like an oversized gorilla, and as sad as this sounds gorillas are tracked and killed all the time, while on the other hand Bigfoot is obviously very elusive and probably very intelligent as well. I don&#8217;t think this model has anything to do with the the Bigfoot people are encountering today.</p>
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		<title>By: Thermite</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/giganto-caught/comment-page-1/#comment-39987</link>
		<dc:creator>Thermite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 23:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all

Everyone seems to think that humanoid life entered the Americas through the frozen north. There was however human life in this continent long before the indians which came from the south, and is still found in some argentine islands, thats right the aboriginals.

If they travelled from Australia or more northerly to get there then is it impossible that large primates could have also used this path to enter the america&#039;s.

Maybe people are looking in the wrong place.

Anyway, back to the model. Superb, and it is surprising what they can conclude from small amounts of evidence, I&#039;m not so sure that this is or has anything to do with sas though, just a hunch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all</p>
<p>Everyone seems to think that humanoid life entered the Americas through the frozen north. There was however human life in this continent long before the indians which came from the south, and is still found in some argentine islands, thats right the aboriginals.</p>
<p>If they travelled from Australia or more northerly to get there then is it impossible that large primates could have also used this path to enter the america&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Maybe people are looking in the wrong place.</p>
<p>Anyway, back to the model. Superb, and it is surprising what they can conclude from small amounts of evidence, I&#8217;m not so sure that this is or has anything to do with sas though, just a hunch.</p>
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		<title>By: serpent_seeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>serpent_seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im speechless those are good photos of the model ape, now only if science can get a body of a yeti or bigfoot, so studies can be done. If bigfoot or the yeti are a combination of man and ape that is truly one huge creature truly remarkable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im speechless those are good photos of the model ape, now only if science can get a body of a yeti or bigfoot, so studies can be done. If bigfoot or the yeti are a combination of man and ape that is truly one huge creature truly remarkable.</p>
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		<title>By: DWA</title>
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		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 22:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loren:

Still only teeth; a jawbone (or three); and part of another bone.

A little of an animal - and a lot of a guess.

But then, we KNOW virtually nothing about the dinosaurs either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loren:</p>
<p>Still only teeth; a jawbone (or three); and part of another bone.</p>
<p>A little of an animal &#8211; and a lot of a guess.</p>
<p>But then, we KNOW virtually nothing about the dinosaurs either.</p>
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		<title>By: Loren Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loren Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 20:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;a handful of teeth and a jawbone&quot;

&quot;We only have a few teeth.&quot;

China has yielded three &lt;em&gt;Gigantopithecus blacki&lt;/em&gt; jawbones and over a thousand teeth.

Part of a distal humerus was discovered in Jianping County, Liaoning, China, which has been tentatively assigned to &lt;em&gt;Gigantopithecus blacki&lt;/em&gt;.

India has been the source of &lt;em&gt;Gigantopithecus giganteus&lt;/em&gt; (= bilaspurensis) teeth and a jawbone.

Vietnam&#039;s new findings show that &lt;em&gt;Gigantopithecus&lt;/em&gt; teeth are being discovered there too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;a handful of teeth and a jawbone&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;We only have a few teeth.&#8221;</p>
<p>China has yielded three <em>Gigantopithecus blacki</em> jawbones and over a thousand teeth.</p>
<p>Part of a distal humerus was discovered in Jianping County, Liaoning, China, which has been tentatively assigned to <em>Gigantopithecus blacki</em>.</p>
<p>India has been the source of <em>Gigantopithecus giganteus</em> (= bilaspurensis) teeth and a jawbone.</p>
<p>Vietnam&#8217;s new findings show that <em>Gigantopithecus</em> teeth are being discovered there too.</p>
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		<title>By: sschaper</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We only have a few teeth.
This means that we do not know:

How exactly big it actually was.
Whether it was bipedal or quadrupedal.
What color fur it had.
How much sexual dimorphism it had.
And pretty much anything else.

As a result of guesses based upon house-of-cards of guesses, yes, it is a fantastic (and very lifelike) model.

Sightings of the Yeren may mean that a few are still around. One can hope.

Since we now know that none of the australopithicines, or ardipithicus, kenyapithicus, etc, were any more bipedal than modern bononos, we don&#039;t have a good clear ancester for sasquatch. Erectus, Heidelbergensis and Neandertal were identical to us below the neck (and once you hook the jaw on the hinge instead of setting it way forward, even the skulls fall within modern human known ranges). So, we are lacking understanding. And we&#039;ve long known that we have nothing known like the double-jointed foot that Dr. Meldrum hypothesizes from the footprints.

Orang Pendek is very interesting, and I hope we find it and preserve it before it is too late. More bipedalism than the bonono, but still has the big toe sticking out and arm-waving behavior typical of a brachiator. Is there a connection with the bipdedal Napes of the west and north-west?

It is hard to imagine any one of the genus (or just species?) homo to have lost the use of fire and tools. So what is bigfoot? Some third option we don&#039;t know about yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We only have a few teeth.<br />
This means that we do not know:</p>
<p>How exactly big it actually was.<br />
Whether it was bipedal or quadrupedal.<br />
What color fur it had.<br />
How much sexual dimorphism it had.<br />
And pretty much anything else.</p>
<p>As a result of guesses based upon house-of-cards of guesses, yes, it is a fantastic (and very lifelike) model.</p>
<p>Sightings of the Yeren may mean that a few are still around. One can hope.</p>
<p>Since we now know that none of the australopithicines, or ardipithicus, kenyapithicus, etc, were any more bipedal than modern bononos, we don&#8217;t have a good clear ancester for sasquatch. Erectus, Heidelbergensis and Neandertal were identical to us below the neck (and once you hook the jaw on the hinge instead of setting it way forward, even the skulls fall within modern human known ranges). So, we are lacking understanding. And we&#8217;ve long known that we have nothing known like the double-jointed foot that Dr. Meldrum hypothesizes from the footprints.</p>
<p>Orang Pendek is very interesting, and I hope we find it and preserve it before it is too late. More bipedalism than the bonono, but still has the big toe sticking out and arm-waving behavior typical of a brachiator. Is there a connection with the bipdedal Napes of the west and north-west?</p>
<p>It is hard to imagine any one of the genus (or just species?) homo to have lost the use of fire and tools. So what is bigfoot? Some third option we don&#8217;t know about yet?</p>
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		<title>By: DWA</title>
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		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Posts above suggest doubts that giganto is related to bigfoot. This is interesting because most of the professional cryptozoologists argue for a relational connection...&quot;

I think that if we had any &quot;professional&quot; cryptos we&#039;d have the sas by now.  (If they&#039;d existed in 1968, P/G would have been verified within the year.)

Scientists love to pigeonhole into what is known.  No surprise; they&#039;re people, after all.  I think that many of the theories about the sas have come from cryptos who just came up with POSSIBILITIES that might stem from the &quot;lack of evidence.&quot;

I used to think that the sas was a very very rare animal that migrated over ranges that would dwarf those of any other known mammal.

Now I see that there&#039;s so very much evidence that neither of those &quot;explanations&quot; is necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Posts above suggest doubts that giganto is related to bigfoot. This is interesting because most of the professional cryptozoologists argue for a relational connection&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I think that if we had any &#8220;professional&#8221; cryptos we&#8217;d have the sas by now.  (If they&#8217;d existed in 1968, P/G would have been verified within the year.)</p>
<p>Scientists love to pigeonhole into what is known.  No surprise; they&#8217;re people, after all.  I think that many of the theories about the sas have come from cryptos who just came up with POSSIBILITIES that might stem from the &#8220;lack of evidence.&#8221;</p>
<p>I used to think that the sas was a very very rare animal that migrated over ranges that would dwarf those of any other known mammal.</p>
<p>Now I see that there&#8217;s so very much evidence that neither of those &#8220;explanations&#8221; is necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: jerrywayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerrywayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A fun post.

Gigantopithecus is considered closer to an orangutan than a gorilla. The frontal photo seems to reflect aspects of the orangutan. Yet, the profile photos seem to be more gorilla like.

Posts above suggest doubts that giganto is related to bigfoot. This is interesting because most of the professional cryptozoologists argue for a relational connection between the ancient ape and the contemporary &quot;great American ape&quot;.

Personally, I think we should harbor doubts
about the reality of bigfoot. But, for the sake of argument, let&#039;s take for granted as true the following two statements:

1. Conventional science is correct and giganto and all proto-humans died out ages ago, leaving no ancestral types (except humans, of course).

2. Bigfoot, as generally conceived, exists.

What then, is bigfoot?

Must we link Bigfoot to giganto or homo erectus (for instance), for it to make sense? Do we rethink what bigfoot might be? Is bigfoot what the natives always said it was: a giant form of human? Is it a hybrid of some sort? (I think the hybrid idea used to be more prevalent, before the pros began to link bigfoot to evolutionary science). If it is a hybrid, a hybrid what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fun post.</p>
<p>Gigantopithecus is considered closer to an orangutan than a gorilla. The frontal photo seems to reflect aspects of the orangutan. Yet, the profile photos seem to be more gorilla like.</p>
<p>Posts above suggest doubts that giganto is related to bigfoot. This is interesting because most of the professional cryptozoologists argue for a relational connection between the ancient ape and the contemporary &#8220;great American ape&#8221;.</p>
<p>Personally, I think we should harbor doubts<br />
about the reality of bigfoot. But, for the sake of argument, let&#8217;s take for granted as true the following two statements:</p>
<p>1. Conventional science is correct and giganto and all proto-humans died out ages ago, leaving no ancestral types (except humans, of course).</p>
<p>2. Bigfoot, as generally conceived, exists.</p>
<p>What then, is bigfoot?</p>
<p>Must we link Bigfoot to giganto or homo erectus (for instance), for it to make sense? Do we rethink what bigfoot might be? Is bigfoot what the natives always said it was: a giant form of human? Is it a hybrid of some sort? (I think the hybrid idea used to be more prevalent, before the pros began to link bigfoot to evolutionary science). If it is a hybrid, a hybrid what?</p>
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		<title>By: squatch-toba</title>
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		<dc:creator>squatch-toba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 15:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder where this model will end up? I hope that it won&#039;t spend the rest of it&#039;s days in some dusty museum storage. FYI...I do have room in my living room(LOL)!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder where this model will end up? I hope that it won&#8217;t spend the rest of it&#8217;s days in some dusty museum storage. FYI&#8230;I do have room in my living room(LOL)!!!</p>
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