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		<title>By: senua</title>
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		<dc:creator>senua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2010 23:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a giant Millipede type animal called Arthropleura that lived during the Carboniferous Period about 354 million years ago.  It is estimated to have reached a size of about 2.6 meters.  It lived in the coal forests along with the giant dragonfly Meganeura with a wingspan of about 75 cm.  Of course smaller insects and arthropods existed at the same time, it&#039;d just the bigger fossils are the ones that get noticed.

Some think it might have been an increase in Oxygen that caused them to grow large but not every-one agrees.

Here&#039;s a couple of links that might be of interest.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/03/science/when-giants-had-wings-and-6-legs.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;When Giants Had Wings and 6 Legs&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/early/2010/03/04/rspb.2010.0001.full&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Atmospheric oxygen level and the evolution of insect body size&lt;/a&gt;

Megarachne was once thought to have been the biggest spider ever found but it has since been realised that it was a Eurypterid or Sea Scorpion.  If it had been a spider it would have been quite large as it&#039;s body estimated to be over 30cm in diameter.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://scienceblogs.com/laelaps/2010/03/megarachne_the_giant_spider_th.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Megarachne&lt;/em&gt;, the Giant Spider That Wasn&#039;t&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1629066/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The true identity of the supposed giant fossil spider &lt;em&gt;Megarachne&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eurypterids.co.uk/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Eurypterids&lt;/a&gt; could grow very large though.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.damnedisle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1447&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fossil of Biggest Bug Ever: 8 Feet Long&lt;/a&gt;

As far as large spiders go there are a few that are a fair size but the physics seem to be against any spider being really large unless  it has evolved completely differently somehow from other spiders.  It would somehow have to have an internal skeleton surely to be as large as some people are claiming.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://venomous-spiders.nanders.dk/biggestspider.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Interesting link&lt;/a&gt; about some big spiders.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/10/061027-tarantula-video.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nice little video clip&lt;/a&gt;.

The biggest spider I&#039;ve seen had a leg span the size of my palm.  This doesn&#039;t sound like much but it is if you live in the UK.

Happy spider hunting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a giant Millipede type animal called Arthropleura that lived during the Carboniferous Period about 354 million years ago.  It is estimated to have reached a size of about 2.6 meters.  It lived in the coal forests along with the giant dragonfly Meganeura with a wingspan of about 75 cm.  Of course smaller insects and arthropods existed at the same time, it&#8217;d just the bigger fossils are the ones that get noticed.</p>
<p>Some think it might have been an increase in Oxygen that caused them to grow large but not every-one agrees.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a couple of links that might be of interest.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/03/science/when-giants-had-wings-and-6-legs.html" rel="nofollow">When Giants Had Wings and 6 Legs</a></p>
<p><a href="http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/early/2010/03/04/rspb.2010.0001.full" rel="nofollow">Atmospheric oxygen level and the evolution of insect body size</a></p>
<p>Megarachne was once thought to have been the biggest spider ever found but it has since been realised that it was a Eurypterid or Sea Scorpion.  If it had been a spider it would have been quite large as it&#8217;s body estimated to be over 30cm in diameter.</p>
<p><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/laelaps/2010/03/megarachne_the_giant_spider_th.php" rel="nofollow"><em>Megarachne</em>, the Giant Spider That Wasn&#8217;t</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1629066/" rel="nofollow">The true identity of the supposed giant fossil spider <em>Megarachne</em></a></p>
<p>The <a href="http://www.eurypterids.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">Eurypterids</a> could grow very large though.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.damnedisle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1447" rel="nofollow">Fossil of Biggest Bug Ever: 8 Feet Long</a></p>
<p>As far as large spiders go there are a few that are a fair size but the physics seem to be against any spider being really large unless  it has evolved completely differently somehow from other spiders.  It would somehow have to have an internal skeleton surely to be as large as some people are claiming.</p>
<p><a href="http://venomous-spiders.nanders.dk/biggestspider.htm" rel="nofollow">Interesting link</a> about some big spiders.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/10/061027-tarantula-video.html" rel="nofollow">Nice little video clip</a>.</p>
<p>The biggest spider I&#8217;ve seen had a leg span the size of my palm.  This doesn&#8217;t sound like much but it is if you live in the UK.</p>
<p>Happy spider hunting.</p>
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		<title>By: tankapotamus</title>
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		<dc:creator>tankapotamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 00:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey   i saw a huge spider not but a few hours ago..

actually  i got on the computer to identify it   and ended up on this site and made an account just to share this..

i live in southern louisiana, lafayette louisiana to be exact, i went in my backyard to cut my grass when i noticed a giant yellow web over a meter wide connecting my shed, my fence, and a tree.  i checked it out for a while pretty amazed at it but didnt see a spider. I reached up and touched one of the thicker strands and noticed it was ridiculously strong.  so i went in my shed, grabbed my hedge trimmers and cut a branch ab a 1/2 inch thick that had some web connected to it.  the strands actually caught the branch  and it just swung back and forth.   then i looked up and saw what i have definately identified as a golden orb weaver spider with a leg span larger than my hand just sitting in a patch of leaves on one of the branches.  it was actually quite beautiful, bright yellow and white with some red on it&#039;s legs.  I tried to take a picture of it with my phone but the only angle that didnt require me to stand directly beneath had the sun directly behind it and they wouldnt come out right..

it was then time to cut the grass so i grabbed my shovel out of the shed and knocked him out his web.  This spider actually made a pretty loud thump when it hit the ground.  at this point i got scared it would run at me or something and i chopped it in half with the shovel.  :/     i went back later  and located the tiny little male.   

i promise im not blowing this up at all this spider was definately bigger than my hand and i could easily see it catching a bird in that web and it was more than big enough to eat it.

thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey   i saw a huge spider not but a few hours ago..</p>
<p>actually  i got on the computer to identify it   and ended up on this site and made an account just to share this..</p>
<p>i live in southern louisiana, lafayette louisiana to be exact, i went in my backyard to cut my grass when i noticed a giant yellow web over a meter wide connecting my shed, my fence, and a tree.  i checked it out for a while pretty amazed at it but didnt see a spider. I reached up and touched one of the thicker strands and noticed it was ridiculously strong.  so i went in my shed, grabbed my hedge trimmers and cut a branch ab a 1/2 inch thick that had some web connected to it.  the strands actually caught the branch  and it just swung back and forth.   then i looked up and saw what i have definately identified as a golden orb weaver spider with a leg span larger than my hand just sitting in a patch of leaves on one of the branches.  it was actually quite beautiful, bright yellow and white with some red on it&#8217;s legs.  I tried to take a picture of it with my phone but the only angle that didnt require me to stand directly beneath had the sun directly behind it and they wouldnt come out right..</p>
<p>it was then time to cut the grass so i grabbed my shovel out of the shed and knocked him out his web.  This spider actually made a pretty loud thump when it hit the ground.  at this point i got scared it would run at me or something and i chopped it in half with the shovel.  :/     i went back later  and located the tiny little male.   </p>
<p>i promise im not blowing this up at all this spider was definately bigger than my hand and i could easily see it catching a bird in that web and it was more than big enough to eat it.</p>
<p>thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Shadmin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shadmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 08:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A wolf spider 10&quot; across would be a Guinness World Record and would be the largest wolf spider in the world! A specimen of a spider which was that size would be worth a fair amount of money to science, dead or alive! As far as reports of &quot;giant&quot; arachnids in the rainforested areas of the globe it is entirely possible for them to exist, regardless of arguments to the contrary! The current oxygen level of our atmosphere is thought to limit the size of fauna with exoskeletons due to an inability to absorb the quantity of oxygen which would be necessary for an animal of that size to survive? However, when we look at nature and see the incredible diversity of adaptation manifested by lifeforms here on earth we cannot simply discount the possibility of some type of adaptation which has allowed for the survival of a giant species of arachnid into modern times? While I would be loathe to encounter a spider the size of a dog or larger while trekking through the rainforest, it would still be fascinating nevertheless!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A wolf spider 10&#8243; across would be a Guinness World Record and would be the largest wolf spider in the world! A specimen of a spider which was that size would be worth a fair amount of money to science, dead or alive! As far as reports of &#8220;giant&#8221; arachnids in the rainforested areas of the globe it is entirely possible for them to exist, regardless of arguments to the contrary! The current oxygen level of our atmosphere is thought to limit the size of fauna with exoskeletons due to an inability to absorb the quantity of oxygen which would be necessary for an animal of that size to survive? However, when we look at nature and see the incredible diversity of adaptation manifested by lifeforms here on earth we cannot simply discount the possibility of some type of adaptation which has allowed for the survival of a giant species of arachnid into modern times? While I would be loathe to encounter a spider the size of a dog or larger while trekking through the rainforest, it would still be fascinating nevertheless!</p>
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		<title>By: rattmotor</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 09:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think giant spiders are possible because of two exteremely large spiders I have seen where I live, and I have witnesses that can back me up. I am from eastern Maryland and when I was out in the woods once years ago, I kicked over a hollowed out dead and rotted tree trunk, and out from the center came a spider that I never had seen or seen since, it may have been a new species for all I know, but it was perfectly camoflauged with the color of the rotted wood, and wasn&#039;t noticeable until it ran past my boot, but I got a real good look at it as it stopped for a minute and so did two buddies that were there with me. It was about 6 inches from my boot, and it was larger than the boot I was wearing, and I wear a size 12. It wasn&#039;t heavy built like a tarantula, but its legspan was huge for a spider, it was about 15 inches, we tried to catch it but it was as quick as lightning. I know some will think this is impossible for around here, but I know what I saw, we still talk about that spider almost 20 years later. I also once captured a wolf spider that was really big, I measured it and it came in at about 10 inches, I found it living under a piece of plywood, Im not sure if this is common but its the biggest wolf spider I ever saw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think giant spiders are possible because of two exteremely large spiders I have seen where I live, and I have witnesses that can back me up. I am from eastern Maryland and when I was out in the woods once years ago, I kicked over a hollowed out dead and rotted tree trunk, and out from the center came a spider that I never had seen or seen since, it may have been a new species for all I know, but it was perfectly camoflauged with the color of the rotted wood, and wasn&#8217;t noticeable until it ran past my boot, but I got a real good look at it as it stopped for a minute and so did two buddies that were there with me. It was about 6 inches from my boot, and it was larger than the boot I was wearing, and I wear a size 12. It wasn&#8217;t heavy built like a tarantula, but its legspan was huge for a spider, it was about 15 inches, we tried to catch it but it was as quick as lightning. I know some will think this is impossible for around here, but I know what I saw, we still talk about that spider almost 20 years later. I also once captured a wolf spider that was really big, I measured it and it came in at about 10 inches, I found it living under a piece of plywood, Im not sure if this is common but its the biggest wolf spider I ever saw.</p>
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		<title>By: wisaaka</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 14:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Giant spiders are possible, one can argue based on current knowledge of spider mechanics that its impossible, but if the animal is real and unknown then the argument is moot. I agree that an arachnid in its currently known physical layout would be impossibly unwieldy at say anything over 18&quot;-24&quot;. 

However,the discussion isn&#039;t really arguing that, from what I understand the topic is about a giant spider that is yet unclassified, perhaps we could discuss how a spider could reach those lengths with adaptation and what that the most likely adaptations or changes in body structure that would entail.  That would be insightful.    

Anyhoo, on cryptozoology.com William J. Gibbons is quoted as saying (from his expedition report from the congo in search of Mokele Mbembe):

 &quot;In 1938, Mr. &amp; Mrs. R.K. Lloyd of London, England were driving along a forest road in the former Belgian Congo, when they became aware of a large animate object moving across the road ahead of them. At first they took the object to be a large monkey or jungle cat. However, as they approached the creature, the Lloyd’s curiosity turned to horror as they came face-to-face with a gigantic brown spider. Mr. Lloyd attempted unsuccessfully to retrieve his camera as the giant arachnid simply walked into the forest and disappeared. On this third expedition to Equatorial Africa, I (Gibbons) took the opportunity to enquire if the pygmies knew of such a creature, and indeed they did! The Baka word for spider is Fofi (pronounced foo fee), and Jba means ‘great.’ They speak of the Jba Fofi, which is a ‘giant’ or ‘great spider’. They described a spider that is generally brown in color with a purple abdomen. They grow to quite an enormous size with a leg span of at least five feet. The giant arachnids weave together a lair made of leaves similar in shape to a traditional pygmy hut, and spin a circular web (said to be very strong) between two trees with a strand stretched across a game trail. These giant ground-dwelling spiders prey on the diminutive forest antelope (duiker), birds, and other small game, and are said to be extremely dangerous, not to mention highly venomous. The spiders are said to lay white, peanut-sized eggs in a cluster, and the pygmies give them a wide birth when encountered, but have killed them in the past. The giant spiders were once very common but are now a rare sight. Their dwindling numbers are blamed on the continuing deforestation of their habitat, but they are still encountered from time to time. The Baka chief, Timbo, casually mentioned to us that a giant spider had taken up residence in the forest just behind his village in November 2000, when I (Gibbons) and Dave Woetzel from New Hampshire had visited him! He did not think that we would have been interested in the creature as our interest was focused on Mokele-mbembe at the time! Valuable evidence had eluded us.&quot;

I have heard that the louisiana spider doesn&#039;t exist, but the J’ba Fofi (congo spider) does in fact exist, and reaches size of about 10 feet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giant spiders are possible, one can argue based on current knowledge of spider mechanics that its impossible, but if the animal is real and unknown then the argument is moot. I agree that an arachnid in its currently known physical layout would be impossibly unwieldy at say anything over 18&#8243;-24&#8243;. </p>
<p>However,the discussion isn&#8217;t really arguing that, from what I understand the topic is about a giant spider that is yet unclassified, perhaps we could discuss how a spider could reach those lengths with adaptation and what that the most likely adaptations or changes in body structure that would entail.  That would be insightful.    </p>
<p>Anyhoo, on cryptozoology.com William J. Gibbons is quoted as saying (from his expedition report from the congo in search of Mokele Mbembe):</p>
<p> &#8220;In 1938, Mr. &amp; Mrs. R.K. Lloyd of London, England were driving along a forest road in the former Belgian Congo, when they became aware of a large animate object moving across the road ahead of them. At first they took the object to be a large monkey or jungle cat. However, as they approached the creature, the Lloyd’s curiosity turned to horror as they came face-to-face with a gigantic brown spider. Mr. Lloyd attempted unsuccessfully to retrieve his camera as the giant arachnid simply walked into the forest and disappeared. On this third expedition to Equatorial Africa, I (Gibbons) took the opportunity to enquire if the pygmies knew of such a creature, and indeed they did! The Baka word for spider is Fofi (pronounced foo fee), and Jba means ‘great.’ They speak of the Jba Fofi, which is a ‘giant’ or ‘great spider’. They described a spider that is generally brown in color with a purple abdomen. They grow to quite an enormous size with a leg span of at least five feet. The giant arachnids weave together a lair made of leaves similar in shape to a traditional pygmy hut, and spin a circular web (said to be very strong) between two trees with a strand stretched across a game trail. These giant ground-dwelling spiders prey on the diminutive forest antelope (duiker), birds, and other small game, and are said to be extremely dangerous, not to mention highly venomous. The spiders are said to lay white, peanut-sized eggs in a cluster, and the pygmies give them a wide birth when encountered, but have killed them in the past. The giant spiders were once very common but are now a rare sight. Their dwindling numbers are blamed on the continuing deforestation of their habitat, but they are still encountered from time to time. The Baka chief, Timbo, casually mentioned to us that a giant spider had taken up residence in the forest just behind his village in November 2000, when I (Gibbons) and Dave Woetzel from New Hampshire had visited him! He did not think that we would have been interested in the creature as our interest was focused on Mokele-mbembe at the time! Valuable evidence had eluded us.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have heard that the louisiana spider doesn&#8217;t exist, but the J’ba Fofi (congo spider) does in fact exist, and reaches size of about 10 feet.</p>
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		<title>By: HOOSIERHUNTER</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 05:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No fan of spiders here but I&#039;m not particularly afraid of them either.

I don&#039;t have any spider stories to share but I think it is important to point out the many personal experiences shared in this column by those who have encountered spiders (as well as other insects) of incredibly large size! I mean, we often accept the friend of a friend&#039;s account about bigfoot, and we have here people who have witnessed first hand giant spiders! I realize and appreciate the argument that limit the size of such creatures and I don&#039;t discount them, but are we absolutely sure that such creatures, no matter how improbable, cannot exist? Is it possible that some unknown biological adaptation might allow a spider to grow to such a large size? Spiders are, after all, one of the most successful species ever created, perhaps we should not too quickly dismiss such eyewitness descriptions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No fan of spiders here but I&#8217;m not particularly afraid of them either.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have any spider stories to share but I think it is important to point out the many personal experiences shared in this column by those who have encountered spiders (as well as other insects) of incredibly large size! I mean, we often accept the friend of a friend&#8217;s account about bigfoot, and we have here people who have witnessed first hand giant spiders! I realize and appreciate the argument that limit the size of such creatures and I don&#8217;t discount them, but are we absolutely sure that such creatures, no matter how improbable, cannot exist? Is it possible that some unknown biological adaptation might allow a spider to grow to such a large size? Spiders are, after all, one of the most successful species ever created, perhaps we should not too quickly dismiss such eyewitness descriptions?</p>
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		<title>By: kittenz</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 04:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that it would be very easy to mistake a big land crab for a giant spider. On the other hand, land crabs are arthropods too, and if a giant land crab with a body a foot across can exist, why not a giant spider? The term &quot;giant&quot; meaning, say, cat-sized) I don&#039;t think it&#039;s physiologically possible for any land-dwelling arthropod to be much bigger than that, but if a spider&#039;s body was cat-sized, its legspan could conceivably be two feet or so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that it would be very easy to mistake a big land crab for a giant spider. On the other hand, land crabs are arthropods too, and if a giant land crab with a body a foot across can exist, why not a giant spider? The term &#8220;giant&#8221; meaning, say, cat-sized) I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s physiologically possible for any land-dwelling arthropod to be much bigger than that, but if a spider&#8217;s body was cat-sized, its legspan could conceivably be two feet or so.</p>
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		<title>By: sschaper</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 23:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EasternIowa, come spring, catch one of those millipedes and be prepared to catch or preserve the squished body of one of those spiders. Maybe offer a very small reward. I bet the correspondent in Colorado would be interested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EasternIowa, come spring, catch one of those millipedes and be prepared to catch or preserve the squished body of one of those spiders. Maybe offer a very small reward. I bet the correspondent in Colorado would be interested.</p>
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		<title>By: mystery_man</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oldbob39- I just read your post and that is EXACTLY what I was trying to explain in my own post above that came after yours. Very nice, concise explanation you gave and spot on! I actually teach biology and in my opinion, your explanation was textbook perfect. Good post. 

I too think that spiders cannot really be compared with a terrestrial crustacean like the coconut crab. They have two very different body designs, and even with the coconut crab you are pushing the limits of the size a land arthropod could physically reach. Also, if anyone looks at how a coconut crab moves, they are not swift or stealthy at all. They are actually rather awkward and slow, precisely because they are so big, with heavy, unwieldy exoskeletons. You just are not going to get an arthropod that big scurrying around with any sort of speed.

In my opinion, based on the biology and physics involved, a spider is unlikely to get much bigger than the current record holders. Spiders the size of dogs or bigger are just not probable at all. It is exactly the same reason why I am very skeptical of giant spiders. 

Nevertheless, deadx, your story has officially freaked me out. Thanks for the nightmares tonight. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oldbob39- I just read your post and that is EXACTLY what I was trying to explain in my own post above that came after yours. Very nice, concise explanation you gave and spot on! I actually teach biology and in my opinion, your explanation was textbook perfect. Good post. </p>
<p>I too think that spiders cannot really be compared with a terrestrial crustacean like the coconut crab. They have two very different body designs, and even with the coconut crab you are pushing the limits of the size a land arthropod could physically reach. Also, if anyone looks at how a coconut crab moves, they are not swift or stealthy at all. They are actually rather awkward and slow, precisely because they are so big, with heavy, unwieldy exoskeletons. You just are not going to get an arthropod that big scurrying around with any sort of speed.</p>
<p>In my opinion, based on the biology and physics involved, a spider is unlikely to get much bigger than the current record holders. Spiders the size of dogs or bigger are just not probable at all. It is exactly the same reason why I am very skeptical of giant spiders. </p>
<p>Nevertheless, deadx, your story has officially freaked me out. Thanks for the nightmares tonight. <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: deadx</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 02:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a Green Beret in Viet Nam in 1970. On a mission in Cambodia one night I heard a stealthy sound as everyone else was sleeping and thought at first it was a Viet Cong woodcutter lost in the woods at night but very quickly realized whatever had made the noise had more than 4 legs. From what I could see with my night vision trained eyes it was an animal with several shiny black eyes squatted in front of me at about 10 feet. I took my weapon off &quot;safe&quot; and pointed it at the creature which I estimate was about the size of a 4 wheel ATV. After several terrifying minutes the thing just simply vanished into the woods. I was so scared that my ears were roaring and I couldn&#039;t hear anything for awhile after it left. I didn&#039;t know for sure what I had seen as it was just too implausible but after reading about R.E. Lloyd&#039;s experience in the Congo in a book several years ago I got goosebumps and knew that I wasn&#039;t imagining anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a Green Beret in Viet Nam in 1970. On a mission in Cambodia one night I heard a stealthy sound as everyone else was sleeping and thought at first it was a Viet Cong woodcutter lost in the woods at night but very quickly realized whatever had made the noise had more than 4 legs. From what I could see with my night vision trained eyes it was an animal with several shiny black eyes squatted in front of me at about 10 feet. I took my weapon off &#8220;safe&#8221; and pointed it at the creature which I estimate was about the size of a 4 wheel ATV. After several terrifying minutes the thing just simply vanished into the woods. I was so scared that my ears were roaring and I couldn&#8217;t hear anything for awhile after it left. I didn&#8217;t know for sure what I had seen as it was just too implausible but after reading about R.E. Lloyd&#8217;s experience in the Congo in a book several years ago I got goosebumps and knew that I wasn&#8217;t imagining anything.</p>
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