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	<title>Comments on: Blair Dog Project: Gable Film Fakery?</title>
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		<title>By: ithilien</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/gable-film/#comment-35218</link>
		<dc:creator>ithilien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been looking for this video everywhere on the internet but was not aware it was called the "gable film". Great and a bit of a surprise to find it at crypto.  Visually it is quite compelling, but as mrdark commented, it falls apart when considered in context.

As he also stated, the video of the sasquatch crossing the snowy road shot by father and son out getting firewood is more  believable, and looks like the creature in my own sighting...large, massive but somewhat lanky from the shoulders down, a very large rounded head. curiously, there seems to be some "morphing" going on there too.

I'm reminded of the sighting of the "black blob" on the trail that morphed into the standing sasquatch figure that i read o the internet a while back.

Certainly some c-g expert would be able to tell if the morphing could be done digitally, but wouldn't the movement be too fast for a human to hoax?

If mrdak loves hoaxes, he should read The Trickster and the Paranormal by hansen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been looking for this video everywhere on the internet but was not aware it was called the &#8220;gable film&#8221;. Great and a bit of a surprise to find it at crypto.  Visually it is quite compelling, but as mrdark commented, it falls apart when considered in context.</p>
<p>As he also stated, the video of the sasquatch crossing the snowy road shot by father and son out getting firewood is more  believable, and looks like the creature in my own sighting&#8230;large, massive but somewhat lanky from the shoulders down, a very large rounded head. curiously, there seems to be some &#8220;morphing&#8221; going on there too.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m reminded of the sighting of the &#8220;black blob&#8221; on the trail that morphed into the standing sasquatch figure that i read o the internet a while back.</p>
<p>Certainly some c-g expert would be able to tell if the morphing could be done digitally, but wouldn&#8217;t the movement be too fast for a human to hoax?</p>
<p>If mrdak loves hoaxes, he should read The Trickster and the Paranormal by hansen.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob K.</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/gable-film/#comment-35217</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 08:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Towards the very end, the creatures shape seems to "blur" pretty noticably, and not in a natural looking sort of way which would indicate swift movement. For this reason, it seems fishy to me. Does anyone else see this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Towards the very end, the creatures shape seems to &#8220;blur&#8221; pretty noticably, and not in a natural looking sort of way which would indicate swift movement. For this reason, it seems fishy to me. Does anyone else see this?</p>
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		<title>By: jamesrav</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/gable-film/#comment-35216</link>
		<dc:creator>jamesrav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 06:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the phrase "allegedly clearly a hoax" is confusing to me - kind of like when Senator Craig said it was his "intent to resign"  after the bathroom escapade, which he has wiggled out of for the time-being.  Either it's proven to be a hoax, or it's an alleged hoax, it can't be both at the same time.  I will have to see the frames in question, if that was a guy in a costume he moves *really* convincingly, way better than I could do on all fours in a big bulky costume.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the phrase &#8220;allegedly clearly a hoax&#8221; is confusing to me - kind of like when Senator Craig said it was his &#8220;intent to resign&#8221;  after the bathroom escapade, which he has wiggled out of for the time-being.  Either it&#8217;s proven to be a hoax, or it&#8217;s an alleged hoax, it can&#8217;t be both at the same time.  I will have to see the frames in question, if that was a guy in a costume he moves *really* convincingly, way better than I could do on all fours in a big bulky costume.</p>
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		<title>By: john5</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/gable-film/#comment-35215</link>
		<dc:creator>john5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree White Tiger. Steve Cook may have received so much flack, and even from pro cryptozoologists, that they were looking for an easy out to designate the footage a hoax. The supposed 'human foot' they highlight on the Dogman website is not clearly human in my opinion. Steve even mentioons that there is no accounting for the superhuman movements of this creature after the foot frames.

The terrain and grass disrupt a clear view of the lower left leg but the motions of this creature before it charges could not be reproduced by a human on their hands and knees. The sideways motion alone covers far too much ground per side step than what could be provided with the distance between 2 knees. As well when the creature lurtches the rear right leg can be clearly seen in full extension and it is clearly a non-human appendage.

If one can stop the original footage at 3:09.367 on the film counter 2 ears can be plainly seen on the top of the head. I cannot say for sure that the end of this film is for real but I cannot see any reason for the footage of this creature up to and including the charge that appears contrived given the limited methods I have for analysis.

When viewing cryptids and other rare subjects caught on film we need to be prepared to see motions and behaviours unlike anything observed previously. The highly unusual can give an instant illusion to a viewer, especially an inexperienced one, that whatever they are seeing is probably a fraud.

In my books this footage remains as indetermined and somewhat disturbing!

Peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree White Tiger. Steve Cook may have received so much flack, and even from pro cryptozoologists, that they were looking for an easy out to designate the footage a hoax. The supposed &#8216;human foot&#8217; they highlight on the Dogman website is not clearly human in my opinion. Steve even mentioons that there is no accounting for the superhuman movements of this creature after the foot frames.</p>
<p>The terrain and grass disrupt a clear view of the lower left leg but the motions of this creature before it charges could not be reproduced by a human on their hands and knees. The sideways motion alone covers far too much ground per side step than what could be provided with the distance between 2 knees. As well when the creature lurtches the rear right leg can be clearly seen in full extension and it is clearly a non-human appendage.</p>
<p>If one can stop the original footage at 3:09.367 on the film counter 2 ears can be plainly seen on the top of the head. I cannot say for sure that the end of this film is for real but I cannot see any reason for the footage of this creature up to and including the charge that appears contrived given the limited methods I have for analysis.</p>
<p>When viewing cryptids and other rare subjects caught on film we need to be prepared to see motions and behaviours unlike anything observed previously. The highly unusual can give an instant illusion to a viewer, especially an inexperienced one, that whatever they are seeing is probably a fraud.</p>
<p>In my books this footage remains as indetermined and somewhat disturbing!</p>
<p>Peace</p>
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		<title>By: WhiteTiger</title>
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		<dc:creator>WhiteTiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loren, are you referring to the "human foot" stills at the Steve Cook site and the conclusion drawn from them? If so, then personally I find them quite suspect in an evidenciary sense.

The whatsit is plainly standing in a small hollow with the bottoms of all four limbs obscured by the intervening terrain and vegetation. The clipped off view of the left rear leg does give something of the look of a human foot, but bear in mind that the same terrain would cut off the voew of the lower digitigrade leg.

Given the inconclusive nature of that "proof", the hoax conclusion based on it goes out the window.

As I said earlier, hoax is quite possible by any of several means, but the "foot" certainly does not establish that it exists.



Tiger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loren, are you referring to the &#8220;human foot&#8221; stills at the Steve Cook site and the conclusion drawn from them? If so, then personally I find them quite suspect in an evidenciary sense.</p>
<p>The whatsit is plainly standing in a small hollow with the bottoms of all four limbs obscured by the intervening terrain and vegetation. The clipped off view of the left rear leg does give something of the look of a human foot, but bear in mind that the same terrain would cut off the voew of the lower digitigrade leg.</p>
<p>Given the inconclusive nature of that &#8220;proof&#8221;, the hoax conclusion based on it goes out the window.</p>
<p>As I said earlier, hoax is quite possible by any of several means, but the &#8220;foot&#8221; certainly does not establish that it exists.</p>
<p>Tiger</p>
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		<title>By: sasquatch</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/gable-film/#comment-35213</link>
		<dc:creator>sasquatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O.K. Loren, then what's the animal? Hoax-us Lupus?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O.K. Loren, then what&#8217;s the animal? Hoax-us Lupus?</p>
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		<title>By: Loren Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loren Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is remarkable to me that people are still leaving comments here about what animal or species it might be when this footage is allegedly clearly a hoax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is remarkable to me that people are still leaving comments here about what animal or species it might be when this footage is allegedly clearly a hoax.</p>
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		<title>By: joe levit</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/gable-film/#comment-35211</link>
		<dc:creator>joe levit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I first watched the film it had the gorilla movement mentioned before at first, but seemed to then be like a bull charging around the tree. I didn't see any cat-like movement, and the "tail" is odd either way.

Not that I think this film is real, but the last part at the end with the fangs, etc. is not necessarily an automatic disqualifier. I mean, the way the film seems to progress is that this creature moves quickly, the person filming it realizes it's time to run for it, and then we see jumpy film like somebody running. It is almost like the person filming turned around to see how close the creature was and shielded his or her body from the impact, which could then bring the camera to a position to view that bared-teeth face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first watched the film it had the gorilla movement mentioned before at first, but seemed to then be like a bull charging around the tree. I didn&#8217;t see any cat-like movement, and the &#8220;tail&#8221; is odd either way.</p>
<p>Not that I think this film is real, but the last part at the end with the fangs, etc. is not necessarily an automatic disqualifier. I mean, the way the film seems to progress is that this creature moves quickly, the person filming it realizes it&#8217;s time to run for it, and then we see jumpy film like somebody running. It is almost like the person filming turned around to see how close the creature was and shielded his or her body from the impact, which could then bring the camera to a position to view that bared-teeth face.</p>
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		<title>By: Ceroill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ceroill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, MM, I guess I'm just blinking at the wrong time every time or something. So many others are seeing this, that I'll trust for now that it's there and that I'm somehow missing it. Oh well. I do agree that the early 'home movies' looking parts could be authentic as what they seem to be- bits of old home movies. Other than that I am also skeptical, though curious as to what that image really is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, MM, I guess I&#8217;m just blinking at the wrong time every time or something. So many others are seeing this, that I&#8217;ll trust for now that it&#8217;s there and that I&#8217;m somehow missing it. Oh well. I do agree that the early &#8216;home movies&#8217; looking parts could be authentic as what they seem to be- bits of old home movies. Other than that I am also skeptical, though curious as to what that image really is.</p>
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		<title>By: mystery_man</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/gable-film/#comment-35210</link>
		<dc:creator>mystery_man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see the teeth too. Ceroill, you have to really watch close, blink and you'll miss it. I didn't notice it the first time I watched it (I must have blinked), but saw it on consecutive viewings. To me, it is a pretty cheeseball effect and detracts from the possible authenticity of the video. It just smacks of taking it too far for entertainment value and I cannot imagine a person would have the presence of mind to keep the camera steady in the face of a charging creature like that to the point we would see its maw close in, complete with fangs. The movement of the creature is intriguing to me, but the fang effect as well as some of the other circumstances surrounding the filming of the creature just don't add up. I'm very skeptical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see the teeth too. Ceroill, you have to really watch close, blink and you&#8217;ll miss it. I didn&#8217;t notice it the first time I watched it (I must have blinked), but saw it on consecutive viewings. To me, it is a pretty cheeseball effect and detracts from the possible authenticity of the video. It just smacks of taking it too far for entertainment value and I cannot imagine a person would have the presence of mind to keep the camera steady in the face of a charging creature like that to the point we would see its maw close in, complete with fangs. The movement of the creature is intriguing to me, but the fang effect as well as some of the other circumstances surrounding the filming of the creature just don&#8217;t add up. I&#8217;m very skeptical.</p>
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