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		<title>By: Craig Woolheater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Woolheater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 13:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tylerbounds</title>
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		<dc:creator>tylerbounds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 11:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kahil- read my response to CDC. I really didn&#039;t care about getting credit, but in the interest of full disclosure, which you seem to think was lacking, Cliff Barackman told of the unseen events that led up to the finding of the prints, and did give me the credit for finding them. I&#039;m positive that every other fact-based &quot;reality&quot; show, whether it&#039;s about catching crabs, working in a pawn shop, bounty hunters, or some contrived MTV crap, all of those shows make compromises between the integrity and interests of the cast members, and the decisions of the various cameramen, producers and editors that are responsible for the final product. I can assure you, neither Matt nor &quot;his team&quot; fake evidence, and I would be interested to see where your &quot;proof&quot; is that evidence is, or was ever, faked. But you don&#039;t know me either, so you will have to either believe me and the reality of what happened, or continue living in the made-up fantasy world where everything you see on TV is real, unchoreographed and unscripted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kahil- read my response to CDC. I really didn&#8217;t care about getting credit, but in the interest of full disclosure, which you seem to think was lacking, Cliff Barackman told of the unseen events that led up to the finding of the prints, and did give me the credit for finding them. I&#8217;m positive that every other fact-based &#8220;reality&#8221; show, whether it&#8217;s about catching crabs, working in a pawn shop, bounty hunters, or some contrived MTV crap, all of those shows make compromises between the integrity and interests of the cast members, and the decisions of the various cameramen, producers and editors that are responsible for the final product. I can assure you, neither Matt nor &#8220;his team&#8221; fake evidence, and I would be interested to see where your &#8220;proof&#8221; is that evidence is, or was ever, faked. But you don&#8217;t know me either, so you will have to either believe me and the reality of what happened, or continue living in the made-up fantasy world where everything you see on TV is real, unchoreographed and unscripted.</p>
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		<title>By: tylerbounds</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/finding-bf-7/comment-page-1/#comment-69338</link>
		<dc:creator>tylerbounds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 10:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CDC- I know that you don&#039;t know me even a little bit, but I guess you will just have to take my word for it that I did not, in any way, plant, falsify, or create the footprints that I found. Nobody &quot;told&quot; me to go anywhere or do anything- the cast and film crew were filming, and I was exploring the surrounding woods looking for evidence of a bigfoot passing through. I don&#039;t know if you have ever participated in or seen a TV or film shoot, but people that are not supposed to be on camera have to stay off camera. And watching said filming being done is about as fun as watching paint dry. Reshoots and retakes, switching camera angles, etc.- it gets pretty dull and repetitive. I&#039;m not the type of person to sit around and be bored by such things, not when there are woods and creeks and ponds nearby to explore. It was the second day of my first ever trip to Georgia, and I wanted to check out the area, not only for bigfoot, but to look at the different, unfamiliar plants, and maybe see some new animals or birds that I don&#039;t get to encounter in my home state of Washington. I knew of various reptiles (another interest I have) that live in GA, and I had heard rumors of armadillos, which I had also never seen before. I guess I could have sat and twiddled my thumbs and watched the cameramen and sound guy do their thing, but that isn&#039;t my thing. I&#039;m an active, outdoors-oriented fella, and I had time on my hands- I&#039;m not sure of your hobbies or interests, but I was taking the opportunity to indulge mine when I came across footprints. I think that if I wanted to fake some eveidence to enhance my notoriety or reputation in bigfoot circles, I would have insisted on being filmed, having my name displayed prominently, and having all credit given to me, none of which I did. What was important to me was that I found  probable footprints of a sasquatch, that I knew would be cast, and added to the database of Dr.Meldrum and Mr.Barackman. The find itself is what I found important, and the incidental context in which they were found- during filming of a TV show- was less important to me than you seem to think. The TV series may come and go, but the casts will forever be in the collection of Jeff Meldrum. I&#039;m a fan of science. A fan of reality TV, or 99% of the swill that is on TV, not at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CDC- I know that you don&#8217;t know me even a little bit, but I guess you will just have to take my word for it that I did not, in any way, plant, falsify, or create the footprints that I found. Nobody &#8220;told&#8221; me to go anywhere or do anything- the cast and film crew were filming, and I was exploring the surrounding woods looking for evidence of a bigfoot passing through. I don&#8217;t know if you have ever participated in or seen a TV or film shoot, but people that are not supposed to be on camera have to stay off camera. And watching said filming being done is about as fun as watching paint dry. Reshoots and retakes, switching camera angles, etc.- it gets pretty dull and repetitive. I&#8217;m not the type of person to sit around and be bored by such things, not when there are woods and creeks and ponds nearby to explore. It was the second day of my first ever trip to Georgia, and I wanted to check out the area, not only for bigfoot, but to look at the different, unfamiliar plants, and maybe see some new animals or birds that I don&#8217;t get to encounter in my home state of Washington. I knew of various reptiles (another interest I have) that live in GA, and I had heard rumors of armadillos, which I had also never seen before. I guess I could have sat and twiddled my thumbs and watched the cameramen and sound guy do their thing, but that isn&#8217;t my thing. I&#8217;m an active, outdoors-oriented fella, and I had time on my hands- I&#8217;m not sure of your hobbies or interests, but I was taking the opportunity to indulge mine when I came across footprints. I think that if I wanted to fake some eveidence to enhance my notoriety or reputation in bigfoot circles, I would have insisted on being filmed, having my name displayed prominently, and having all credit given to me, none of which I did. What was important to me was that I found  probable footprints of a sasquatch, that I knew would be cast, and added to the database of Dr.Meldrum and Mr.Barackman. The find itself is what I found important, and the incidental context in which they were found- during filming of a TV show- was less important to me than you seem to think. The TV series may come and go, but the casts will forever be in the collection of Jeff Meldrum. I&#8217;m a fan of science. A fan of reality TV, or 99% of the swill that is on TV, not at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Kahil</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/finding-bf-7/comment-page-1/#comment-68957</link>
		<dc:creator>Kahil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 19:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[people...we all know that Moneymaker has a huge ego and he thinks rather highly of himself, so don&#039;t take anything he says or does as gospel.  Not only is it proven that he and his team fake evidence, but they can&#039;t even humbly give credit where credit is due to the people who actually do find so called evidence.

epic fail...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>people&#8230;we all know that Moneymaker has a huge ego and he thinks rather highly of himself, so don&#8217;t take anything he says or does as gospel.  Not only is it proven that he and his team fake evidence, but they can&#8217;t even humbly give credit where credit is due to the people who actually do find so called evidence.</p>
<p>epic fail&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: CDC</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/finding-bf-7/comment-page-1/#comment-68940</link>
		<dc:creator>CDC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 15:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well according to Cliff Barackman&#039;s web site he states that Tyler Bounds is a &quot;production assistant&quot; and he is the one who actually found the prints.

&quot;Tyler was ahead of us, and far off the trail&quot;. &quot;Tyler ran up pale and winded&quot;. &quot;Tyler told me the general area where they were found, but not the exact location, so the production team could film the authentic discovery moment&quot;. 

&quot;Authentic discovery moment&quot;??????????

&quot;Production assistant&quot;??????

&quot;Production team&quot;??????

Sorry, but I don&#039;t see a &quot;bald face lie&quot; from anyone on this site. If you are going to separate players and teams, we will need a program to follow who&#039;s who.

My opinion is you had a witness with footprint photos. Your &quot;production team&quot; wanted something on camera for the show. They had Tyler run ahead out of sight and plant those prints. Then instant publicity for an new television show about an animal that science says does not exist.

That&#039;s only my opinion.

It is also my opinion that it is wrong for Bigfoot organizations to take money from people to go out in the woods to look for an animal that science says does not exist.

Those footprints would also go far in promoting paid excursion into the woods to hunt for an animal that science says does not exist.

Again, only my opinion.

Seems that an honest Bigfoot organization would wait until science has proven a Bigfoot animal to exist before accepting money from people to go look for it.

Again, just my opinion.

Am I saying this show manufactured evidence to increase interest and generate cash for those associated with organizations that are searching for an animal science says does not exist?

That&#039;s for everyone to decide for themselves.

Me, I would pay guides to take me into the rain forest of the Congo to look for Mountain Gorillas because I know they are there. For others to take money from people to look for an animal that science says is not there, seems unfair...but that&#039;s only my opinion.

Good luck with your next episode, hope you find some more &quot;rock solid&quot; evidence science or Cryptomundo can&#039;t challenge.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well according to Cliff Barackman&#8217;s web site he states that Tyler Bounds is a &#8220;production assistant&#8221; and he is the one who actually found the prints.</p>
<p>&#8220;Tyler was ahead of us, and far off the trail&#8221;. &#8220;Tyler ran up pale and winded&#8221;. &#8220;Tyler told me the general area where they were found, but not the exact location, so the production team could film the authentic discovery moment&#8221;. </p>
<p>&#8220;Authentic discovery moment&#8221;??????????</p>
<p>&#8220;Production assistant&#8221;??????</p>
<p>&#8220;Production team&#8221;??????</p>
<p>Sorry, but I don&#8217;t see a &#8220;bald face lie&#8221; from anyone on this site. If you are going to separate players and teams, we will need a program to follow who&#8217;s who.</p>
<p>My opinion is you had a witness with footprint photos. Your &#8220;production team&#8221; wanted something on camera for the show. They had Tyler run ahead out of sight and plant those prints. Then instant publicity for an new television show about an animal that science says does not exist.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s only my opinion.</p>
<p>It is also my opinion that it is wrong for Bigfoot organizations to take money from people to go out in the woods to look for an animal that science says does not exist.</p>
<p>Those footprints would also go far in promoting paid excursion into the woods to hunt for an animal that science says does not exist.</p>
<p>Again, only my opinion.</p>
<p>Seems that an honest Bigfoot organization would wait until science has proven a Bigfoot animal to exist before accepting money from people to go look for it.</p>
<p>Again, just my opinion.</p>
<p>Am I saying this show manufactured evidence to increase interest and generate cash for those associated with organizations that are searching for an animal science says does not exist?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s for everyone to decide for themselves.</p>
<p>Me, I would pay guides to take me into the rain forest of the Congo to look for Mountain Gorillas because I know they are there. For others to take money from people to look for an animal that science says is not there, seems unfair&#8230;but that&#8217;s only my opinion.</p>
<p>Good luck with your next episode, hope you find some more &#8220;rock solid&#8221; evidence science or Cryptomundo can&#8217;t challenge.</p>
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		<title>By: dharkheart</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/finding-bf-7/comment-page-1/#comment-68909</link>
		<dc:creator>dharkheart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2011 17:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In response to Mr. Moneymaker: How are legitimate concerns bashing? If someone who is part of the BFRO found the prints on a scouting mission, then give credit to that person. That simple thing would help quelch all of the people who think it was a setup. Forget the sensationalism of reality tv and just portray what happens as whatever happens and what is found, and by whom, as what was found and by whom.

Other than that, I am not critical of the show nor anyone who appears on it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to Mr. Moneymaker: How are legitimate concerns bashing? If someone who is part of the BFRO found the prints on a scouting mission, then give credit to that person. That simple thing would help quelch all of the people who think it was a setup. Forget the sensationalism of reality tv and just portray what happens as whatever happens and what is found, and by whom, as what was found and by whom.</p>
<p>Other than that, I am not critical of the show nor anyone who appears on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Redrose999</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/finding-bf-7/comment-page-1/#comment-68898</link>
		<dc:creator>Redrose999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2011 14:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, most of the information posted tends to be without opinion this way we can debate it without bias. Everyone, being human has their own bias&#039;s that often come into our discussions, but Craig and Loren tend to weed those out and look for the points of each discussion. It&#039;s a very scientific process, we often did this in my old Zoology days.  But enough of that. Again, I hope I didn&#039;t offend anyone here. I just wanted to explain the process I&#039;ve observed here over the 5 years I&#039;ve been reading Cryptomundo.  I tend to lurk, or snark, folks here know that, I&#039;m not really known to the list, which is fine because honestly I prefer it that way. 

Now for the question that has been needling me, were there dermal ridges on the prints? Or do I have to wait for an episode update due to non disclosure agreements? LOL My husband works in sensor technology for the military and has to do that sort of thing all the time.... :P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, most of the information posted tends to be without opinion this way we can debate it without bias. Everyone, being human has their own bias&#8217;s that often come into our discussions, but Craig and Loren tend to weed those out and look for the points of each discussion. It&#8217;s a very scientific process, we often did this in my old Zoology days.  But enough of that. Again, I hope I didn&#8217;t offend anyone here. I just wanted to explain the process I&#8217;ve observed here over the 5 years I&#8217;ve been reading Cryptomundo.  I tend to lurk, or snark, folks here know that, I&#8217;m not really known to the list, which is fine because honestly I prefer it that way. </p>
<p>Now for the question that has been needling me, were there dermal ridges on the prints? Or do I have to wait for an episode update due to non disclosure agreements? LOL My husband works in sensor technology for the military and has to do that sort of thing all the time&#8230;. <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Redrose999</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/finding-bf-7/comment-page-1/#comment-68895</link>
		<dc:creator>Redrose999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2011 13:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Matt,

I respect what you do and the contributions you&#039;ve given Bigfoot research. And I understand why you are upset. One of the things we do on Cryptomundo is debate information. We discuss it, several people research it, and Loren or Craig often updates it as our knowledge grows on the topic. Rumors and Hoaxes and lies are often posted on this site to go over and debunk. But we can&#039;t debunk ANYTHING unless it is presented and people aware of the facts post about it. Its a long, often uncomfortable process. I remember the Georgia hoax way back when, as well as others. People here are from all walks of life, some of us are believes, and some skeptics, there is a wide ranges of folk here, which gives us a interesting perspective when it comes to debate. 

With that said, I understand how uncomfortable that feels, especially when you feel the information is either being debated unfairly, or is not true in your experience. This is why your perspective is just as important as the perspective of everyone else on this list. Our goal here is to discuss these things and understand them.

I&#039;m largely here because truthfully, I enjoy the debate, but there is also a part of me that is hopeful as well as cynical that some day we will discover creatures we thought  in our arrogance didn&#039;t exist. It says a lot about human behavior and the field of science and how it is conducted is a hot bed of human political nature, not necessarily positive, but a fascinating study (which is why I love the historical side of paleontology so much and study it as a hobby).

I hope I didn&#039;t offend you, I apologize if I did. I am often blunt and a bull in a China shop. Thank you again.  Redrose999]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,</p>
<p>I respect what you do and the contributions you&#8217;ve given Bigfoot research. And I understand why you are upset. One of the things we do on Cryptomundo is debate information. We discuss it, several people research it, and Loren or Craig often updates it as our knowledge grows on the topic. Rumors and Hoaxes and lies are often posted on this site to go over and debunk. But we can&#8217;t debunk ANYTHING unless it is presented and people aware of the facts post about it. Its a long, often uncomfortable process. I remember the Georgia hoax way back when, as well as others. People here are from all walks of life, some of us are believes, and some skeptics, there is a wide ranges of folk here, which gives us a interesting perspective when it comes to debate. </p>
<p>With that said, I understand how uncomfortable that feels, especially when you feel the information is either being debated unfairly, or is not true in your experience. This is why your perspective is just as important as the perspective of everyone else on this list. Our goal here is to discuss these things and understand them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m largely here because truthfully, I enjoy the debate, but there is also a part of me that is hopeful as well as cynical that some day we will discover creatures we thought  in our arrogance didn&#8217;t exist. It says a lot about human behavior and the field of science and how it is conducted is a hot bed of human political nature, not necessarily positive, but a fascinating study (which is why I love the historical side of paleontology so much and study it as a hobby).</p>
<p>I hope I didn&#8217;t offend you, I apologize if I did. I am often blunt and a bull in a China shop. Thank you again.  Redrose999</p>
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		<title>By: j stewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>j stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2011 05:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I liked the statement and q and a from this young man. he seems genuine and that says a lot. Good read wish he was more prominant in the show.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked the statement and q and a from this young man. he seems genuine and that says a lot. Good read wish he was more prominant in the show.</p>
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		<title>By: matt_moneymaker</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/finding-bf-7/comment-page-1/#comment-68884</link>
		<dc:creator>matt_moneymaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2011 05:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a distortion rather typical of some of the commenters on this site ... the anonymous person claimed that the producer who enhanced some of the sounds was the same one who found the tracks.  That&#039;s another bald faced lie by someone who doesn&#039;t know what they are talking about, but wants you to think his way about it. 

The tracks were found by a member of the BFRO. He is not a producer. He was a scout for us and an assistant.  He had nothing to do with the editing. 

The tracks are very legit. They are sasquatch tracks. They were not faked.  Turns out the knocks were not simulated either.  They were the authentic knocks were heard, but the volume was amplified on the recording.  I don&#039;t call that enhancement. That&#039;s just turning up the volume so they are as audible to audience as they were to us in the field.

Kahil is a jealous boy, clearly.  Somehow my participation hurts the &quot;authenticity&quot; of the show ... because I insulted him.  Yep.

BTW ... these &quot;shocking revelations&quot; about some of the productions issues, were published quite openly by me, and posted on our Blue Forum.  They were not, as Loren suggested leaked from the &quot;inner circle&quot; of the BFRO. They were put there quite openly on a public forum by me.  I have no hesitation saying what happened, because we are quite blameless for all that, and if anything, we prevented what could have been a whole lot more &quot;simulations&quot;.

Envious bashers will spread distortions wherever they can online. You&#039;ll notice how many of those folks will, somewhere along the way, suggest that they should be in the show instead of us.  That&#039;s the main thing underlying their attitudes, make no mistake. It&#039;s jealousy. They&#039;ll just have to watch how the show becomes more and more popular, and accept how much authenticity that I and the other cast members bring to this subject. 

MM]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a distortion rather typical of some of the commenters on this site &#8230; the anonymous person claimed that the producer who enhanced some of the sounds was the same one who found the tracks.  That&#8217;s another bald faced lie by someone who doesn&#8217;t know what they are talking about, but wants you to think his way about it. </p>
<p>The tracks were found by a member of the BFRO. He is not a producer. He was a scout for us and an assistant.  He had nothing to do with the editing. </p>
<p>The tracks are very legit. They are sasquatch tracks. They were not faked.  Turns out the knocks were not simulated either.  They were the authentic knocks were heard, but the volume was amplified on the recording.  I don&#8217;t call that enhancement. That&#8217;s just turning up the volume so they are as audible to audience as they were to us in the field.</p>
<p>Kahil is a jealous boy, clearly.  Somehow my participation hurts the &#8220;authenticity&#8221; of the show &#8230; because I insulted him.  Yep.</p>
<p>BTW &#8230; these &#8220;shocking revelations&#8221; about some of the productions issues, were published quite openly by me, and posted on our Blue Forum.  They were not, as Loren suggested leaked from the &#8220;inner circle&#8221; of the BFRO. They were put there quite openly on a public forum by me.  I have no hesitation saying what happened, because we are quite blameless for all that, and if anything, we prevented what could have been a whole lot more &#8220;simulations&#8221;.</p>
<p>Envious bashers will spread distortions wherever they can online. You&#8217;ll notice how many of those folks will, somewhere along the way, suggest that they should be in the show instead of us.  That&#8217;s the main thing underlying their attitudes, make no mistake. It&#8217;s jealousy. They&#8217;ll just have to watch how the show becomes more and more popular, and accept how much authenticity that I and the other cast members bring to this subject. </p>
<p>MM</p>
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