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	<title>Comments on: Eyes on Johor: New Drawing Linked to French Illusion</title>
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		<title>By: Kronprinz_adam</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/eyesjohor/#comment-5475</link>
		<dc:creator>Kronprinz_adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 11:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the same question for the Johor naturalists and for Ms. Carter.

When will we see a single, clear picture of Malaysia bigfoot or from Fox,  the english-speaking bigfoot?

From these 2 stories in particular I see discussion, drawings, more discussion, and the development of a whole "anthropology" based in Bigfoot, its customs, speech, hunting methods, burial rites, reproductive issues, childcare, paranormal powers, telepathy, religious beliefs.

Please, stop suppositions. They are fiction. They belong to the realm of entertainment stories and mythology.
Until we DO prove something. Scientifically. Then we will know if there's really a guy lurking in the woods, just trying to make his own business like any other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the same question for the Johor naturalists and for Ms. Carter.</p>
<p>When will we see a single, clear picture of Malaysia bigfoot or from Fox,  the english-speaking bigfoot?</p>
<p>From these 2 stories in particular I see discussion, drawings, more discussion, and the development of a whole &#8220;anthropology&#8221; based in Bigfoot, its customs, speech, hunting methods, burial rites, reproductive issues, childcare, paranormal powers, telepathy, religious beliefs.</p>
<p>Please, stop suppositions. They are fiction. They belong to the realm of entertainment stories and mythology.<br />
Until we DO prove something. Scientifically. Then we will know if there&#8217;s really a guy lurking in the woods, just trying to make his own business like any other.</p>
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		<title>By: crypto_randz</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/eyesjohor/#comment-5474</link>
		<dc:creator>crypto_randz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ill tell you one thing those eyes must belong to one gigantic bigfoot. The size of the individual i think must be enormous. Could be well over 6ft maybe 9ft just look at the size of the eyes. What do you think Loren?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ill tell you one thing those eyes must belong to one gigantic bigfoot. The size of the individual i think must be enormous. Could be well over 6ft maybe 9ft just look at the size of the eyes. What do you think Loren?</p>
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		<title>By: crypto_randz</title>
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		<dc:creator>crypto_randz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loren, great job in getting this continuation of the Johor bigfoot saga. I just dont know, this picture of the eyes of one of the bigfoots it looks like real eyes its a very good sketch it could be credible. This situation i think is driving everyone batty. First its this then its that. To solve this problem Dr.Chow needs to release the pictures. This has gone on long enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loren, great job in getting this continuation of the Johor bigfoot saga. I just dont know, this picture of the eyes of one of the bigfoots it looks like real eyes its a very good sketch it could be credible. This situation i think is driving everyone batty. First its this then its that. To solve this problem Dr.Chow needs to release the pictures. This has gone on long enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Woolheater</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/eyesjohor/#comment-5472</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Woolheater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The BFRO link to the Johor Hominid site has just been moved off of the main page to their &lt;a href="http://www.bfro.net/news/malaysia_news.asp" rel="nofollow"&gt;Malaysia News&lt;/a&gt; page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The BFRO link to the Johor Hominid site has just been moved off of the main page to their <a href="http://www.bfro.net/news/malaysia_news.asp" rel="nofollow">Malaysia News</a> page.</p>
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		<title>By: Bennymac</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/eyesjohor/#comment-5471</link>
		<dc:creator>Bennymac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting, BFRO seems to have removed the link to the Johor web site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, BFRO seems to have removed the link to the Johor web site.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Loh</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/eyesjohor/#comment-5453</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Loh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 02:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I dont think a Flash was used, as I heard that the photographer climb up a tree (3 stories high) to take the pictures. If a flash is used, maybe that could explained why the Female is agitated."

First of all, Sean Ang is certainly no photography expert, and we can't rely on his opinions to reach any kind of conclusion about the photos.  That remark he made is a clear sign of his lack of photography knowledge. Like a couple of you have mentioned correctly, the angle of the shot indicates that either the photographer was in a position level with the creature or, if he's in a three-storey-high tree, some distance away, using a zoom lens.  Now, assuming he was really up a tree as claimed, he would have to be quite a distance away, which would mean the use of a flash would have been (a)ineffective at all (b)impossible to cause such pupil reaction, especially when the creature is looking away as is obvious in the sketch.

Secondly, I have this feeling that Vincent and Sean are both frantically looking for more hard evidence, including the creatures themselves, before they would show the photos. The reason is simple: They have to convince themselves first. As we know, neither of them has actually seen the real thing - only the photos were shown to them. If you were in their shoes, wouldn't you want to be absolutely sure or risk making a fool of yourself? Of course, Vincent had already made the initial mistake of committing himself with the claim that he has evidence (if I'm not wrong, the photos were mentioned later) of the creatures' existence. He and Sean are, like I said, probably trying all they can to gather more solid evidence to support this claim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I dont think a Flash was used, as I heard that the photographer climb up a tree (3 stories high) to take the pictures. If a flash is used, maybe that could explained why the Female is agitated.&#8221;</p>
<p>First of all, Sean Ang is certainly no photography expert, and we can&#8217;t rely on his opinions to reach any kind of conclusion about the photos.  That remark he made is a clear sign of his lack of photography knowledge. Like a couple of you have mentioned correctly, the angle of the shot indicates that either the photographer was in a position level with the creature or, if he&#8217;s in a three-storey-high tree, some distance away, using a zoom lens.  Now, assuming he was really up a tree as claimed, he would have to be quite a distance away, which would mean the use of a flash would have been (a)ineffective at all (b)impossible to cause such pupil reaction, especially when the creature is looking away as is obvious in the sketch.</p>
<p>Secondly, I have this feeling that Vincent and Sean are both frantically looking for more hard evidence, including the creatures themselves, before they would show the photos. The reason is simple: They have to convince themselves first. As we know, neither of them has actually seen the real thing - only the photos were shown to them. If you were in their shoes, wouldn&#8217;t you want to be absolutely sure or risk making a fool of yourself? Of course, Vincent had already made the initial mistake of committing himself with the claim that he has evidence (if I&#8217;m not wrong, the photos were mentioned later) of the creatures&#8217; existence. He and Sean are, like I said, probably trying all they can to gather more solid evidence to support this claim.</p>
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		<title>By: Karrde</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/eyesjohor/#comment-5470</link>
		<dc:creator>Karrde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope I don’t hurt any sensibilities around here, but I’ve always thought this Johor business is a hoax. I mean, do you really think that someone who discovers an entire bigfoot community and takes cristal clear pictures of the creatures would not release them immediately? Or disclose the place where the animals are, at least to a group of select scientists who can verify his claims? It would be the discovery of the century!

The "Yeti de Bourganeuf" allusion is just another nail in the Johor Bigfoot big coffin. The worst part of it, I’m afraid, is that it will bring further discredit to legitimate field researchers, at least in the eyes of the general public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope I don’t hurt any sensibilities around here, but I’ve always thought this Johor business is a hoax. I mean, do you really think that someone who discovers an entire bigfoot community and takes cristal clear pictures of the creatures would not release them immediately? Or disclose the place where the animals are, at least to a group of select scientists who can verify his claims? It would be the discovery of the century!</p>
<p>The &#8220;Yeti de Bourganeuf&#8221; allusion is just another nail in the Johor Bigfoot big coffin. The worst part of it, I’m afraid, is that it will bring further discredit to legitimate field researchers, at least in the eyes of the general public.</p>
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		<title>By: shumway10973</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/eyesjohor/#comment-5469</link>
		<dc:creator>shumway10973</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 23:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>now, I'm no expert of the larger primates, but I just looked at a picture of a gorilla's eyes.  With glare on its lenses, it looked as though their eyes are similiar to ours, not slitted like a cat's.  Then again we don't know if these creatures are nocturnal.  I just find it interesting that all the other drawings (if I remember right) the creature had eyes where either the pupil was round like ours or the eyes were too dark to make out any differences between pupil and iris.  Suddenly the photos are clear enough to tell? I dunno.  I really love the way loren does make these available, but I am also greatful that, as he put it, "Cryptomundo now only infrequently notes what is happening there, just enough to keep you informed." I know of some sites that will just throw out anything to have new stories.  Keep it up loren.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>now, I&#8217;m no expert of the larger primates, but I just looked at a picture of a gorilla&#8217;s eyes.  With glare on its lenses, it looked as though their eyes are similiar to ours, not slitted like a cat&#8217;s.  Then again we don&#8217;t know if these creatures are nocturnal.  I just find it interesting that all the other drawings (if I remember right) the creature had eyes where either the pupil was round like ours or the eyes were too dark to make out any differences between pupil and iris.  Suddenly the photos are clear enough to tell? I dunno.  I really love the way loren does make these available, but I am also greatful that, as he put it, &#8220;Cryptomundo now only infrequently notes what is happening there, just enough to keep you informed.&#8221; I know of some sites that will just throw out anything to have new stories.  Keep it up loren.</p>
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		<title>By: LeCope</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/eyesjohor/#comment-5468</link>
		<dc:creator>LeCope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 22:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jjames1, I agree...the whole thing has a shady quality to it, but I think that Sean means well, and would be the most victimized of all if this turns out to be a hoax.  The rest of us will just shrug and say "I knew it", but he has his neck stuck out pretty far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jjames1, I agree&#8230;the whole thing has a shady quality to it, but I think that Sean means well, and would be the most victimized of all if this turns out to be a hoax.  The rest of us will just shrug and say &#8220;I knew it&#8221;, but he has his neck stuck out pretty far.</p>
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		<title>By: jjames1</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/eyesjohor/#comment-5467</link>
		<dc:creator>jjames1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm still convinced that Sean Ang is not intentionally deceiving anyone.  He may be the victim of a hoax, but he's an unwitting victim, if he is.  That being said, yes, I still think it's foolish of him to continue to release information in this manner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still convinced that Sean Ang is not intentionally deceiving anyone.  He may be the victim of a hoax, but he&#8217;s an unwitting victim, if he is.  That being said, yes, I still think it&#8217;s foolish of him to continue to release information in this manner.</p>
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